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Subject: Please tell me how you see this image


Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 7:13 PM · edited Sun, 24 November 2024 at 6:48 PM

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This is a small cropped section of an image I'm working on for someone. They've told me that on their monitor it looks very dark and they can barely see her hair. But on my monitor I can see it just fine. There's dark shadow towards the back of her head where the hair gathers into the ponytail, but the section of ponytail closest to the camera is clearly visible and well lit, as is the rest of her hair and the headband. Can you guys please tell me how it looks on your monitors? TIA! Ney

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 7:15 PM

Oh, and is there any way for two people to calibrate their monitors so that they're seeing the same thing?

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


FlyByNight ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 7:21 PM

Looks exactly as you're seeing it on my monitor.

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Medzinatar ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 7:24 PM

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I use this for brightness and contrast check



Little_Dragon ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 7:25 PM
Acadia ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 7:40 PM

It looks fine to me. It must be their monitor. I notice what looks good on my laptop monitor shows nearly pitch black on my desktop, and what looks good on my desktop looks too bright and has too much contrast on my laptop. So I go by what's on my laptop and hope for the best. No way can I compensate for other people's monitors. I can only go by what I see at my end.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



Fazzel ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 7:54 PM

Your picture looks just fine. Tell them to set up their monitor using this link: http://www.renderosity.com/tut.ez?Form.ViewPages=77



hmatienzo ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 8:16 PM

Looks very dark on mine.

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freyfaxi ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 8:20 PM

Dark on mine as well


Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 8:27 PM

Thanks very much for responding, and thanks also for the calibration tests! I've done both of them and it looks like I'm seeing things just right on my monitor. Phew! I'll pass those links on to the person I'm doing the image for. Thanks again! :) Ney

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


seattletim ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 9:17 PM

I have two monitors. They are suppose to be color adjusted so they are the same - but one is brighter than the other. On the brighter one I see everything very well. I see the brick background and the textures of her clothes and hair.The figure is very visible. On my darker monitor the image is dark. The textures I describle abive are not visible. The figure is darker, but I can still see her. Her hair is more shadowed. It was dramatic to see the difference in both monitors! I was not aware they were so different! So - to my suprise - I see it both ways. I checked the profiles in color management for both monitors and they are su[pose to be the same. Probably confused you there - but that is true. Tim


SamTherapy ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 9:30 PM

The image looks fine to me.

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Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 9:37 PM

I think I understand what you mean. :) Before posting this I fired up my fiance's computer and put this image on his desktop and and on mine. I had thought our monitors were fairly similar, but there was actually a very big difference! On his monitor the image looked dark and the colours murky. I opened up the settings for both monitors and set his exactly the same as mine, but the image still looked very different. I had to end up tweaking his settings for a while to try and get it looking the same as mine, or as close as possible. So, I guess each monitor 'sees' things differently, and using the same settings doesn't always work. Those calibration tests really came in handy. :)

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


Talos ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 10:16 PM

I can see it very well. It's a bit dark, but only in terms of atmosphere, nothing is obscured. Many people have their monitors set too dark. There is a yahoo fan group where my photos (screen caps) have been appropriated and redone so they look like exploding yellowish white suns. Obviously someone has his monitor adjusted too dark.


Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 24 March 2006 at 10:32 PM

Oh good, that's eactly how it should look! This is a nighttime scene with a light shining directly onto the figure. Everything should be clearly visible (hair, face, skin, clothing textures, brick) with the brick above her head and on the right hand side of her face falling into darker shadow. :) That's a real shame about your photos. That person definitely has their monitor set REALLY dark.

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


Francemi ( ) posted Sat, 25 March 2006 at 1:56 AM

I see it exactly the way it should be seen. I would have said it was a scene in a backalley with a light pointing directly at the girl. But you said it better than I could. ;o) Tell the persons you're working for to either adjust their monitor or, if they can't, get a new one that is adjustable. loll

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Neyjour ( ) posted Sat, 25 March 2006 at 2:09 AM

You're exactly right! It's the Atlanta Alley from PoserWorld! :) I gave the calibration links to the person I'm doing the pic for and they're very happy now with the results. So thank you again everyone! :)

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


dawnryder ( ) posted Sat, 25 March 2006 at 6:54 AM

erm... for what it's worth - please dont shoot me down... when the image is at the bottom of my screen its clear and gets darker i scroll it to the top of the screen... so, by the time it gets to the top, i see it how your friend sees it I'm on a g4 imac - the angle poise type, maybe it's to do with how the light hits the screen too with all round natural lighting


Mock ( ) posted Sat, 25 March 2006 at 7:04 AM

The pic looks fine on my monitor and based on the calibration charts my monitor seems to be right on the money. I've gotten the same responses to my images before I think this being an art community Renderosity should have one page dedicated to the kind of charts that are in the link above so that people can check them selves before leaving feedback like "it's too dark" or "you need to lighten it up". Constructive criticism is fine and good but it is annoying when what they see as too dark and indiscernible looks perfectly good with just the right amount of shadow to me or what they see as an improvement looks washed-out.


lesbentley ( ) posted Sat, 25 March 2006 at 11:55 AM

Neyjour, To me this looks like a night scene, but with the face well lit from the front, and with the hair as you discribe it in post #1. In other words I looks fine to me. Little_Dragon, Thanks for the calibration link. This is the best one I have seen, and fortunatly my monitor settings check out fine. I once tried a calibration utility, and the resulrs were terrable, so I much prefer this do it yourself approach!


Singular3D ( ) posted Sun, 26 March 2006 at 1:32 PM

Looks great on my monitor too. Problem is a sometimes not so well calibrated monitor.


heiro5 ( ) posted Mon, 27 March 2006 at 1:32 PM

Looks great to me. Left hand side of image is dark, but in a good, not over-lit, kind of way. "Front" ponytail is well lit, "rear" ponytail is in sillhouette. On my screen it looks tastefully lit.


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