Hi folks It's very sad for me, but I leave this forum, until it works properly. I write threads, I ask questions, but no one response in my mailbox. Oh, and I have all my options checked (I'm receiving the notification on NEW THREADS but not from answers to my posts). I know it will be fixed; then I'll return back. But I swear, I'm a very busy dude and I can't sped so many time surfing in a forum searching if my threads are answered See ya soon (I hope)

Another satisfied customer.... You know, I understand the impulse that makes people replace things instead of just fixing them and the impulse to eat the cookies before they are cool. But some of us don't succumb to our impulses. The forums had a half dozen serious problems. Now some of those problems are fixed, at the expense of adding new ones seemingly much worse. My visits have dropped 90%. I don't expect that to cause weeping and wailing, but I hope sees that losing people like Casette and Acadia sets off an alarm somewhere. M

Quote - "Another satisfied customer.... I hope sees that losing people like Casette and Acadia sets off an alarm somewhere. M"

It should but I doubt it. It never has in the past. They do what they want to do regardless of how many or who they loose. It's really sad for that to happen.

I think it's also a question of "The boy who cried wolf" People threaten to leave time and again (typically every time Rosity implement a new rule/"feature"), yet.. they're often still here. Sometimes under a new nick, sometimes just under their old one. But as long as people in general stay, I don't even think that the PtB notices if some of the forum supports vanish. Unfortunately. It's been a while since the artist Community was changed to merely "Art" - this isn't about the people here any more. much.

I've been trying to make an effort to find my way, but it's frustrating. I find myself skimming over thread topics and not even reading the contents of most of them. The colours are hard on my eyes, the font is too small, I don't know CSS coding in order to recify the appearance. The search function is the screwiest I've ever seen in all the time I've been posting in forums. What should have been a smooth transition over has been turned into a colossal nightmare. I don't mind being a beta tester, but I like it to be voluntary on my part and not pushed at me like the MP change and now this. They could have set it up on a separate server and had some people check it out for features...necessary features. It seems like it was rushed just to get it done, and now we are all suffering because of it. Many of us are grumpy and unhappy, and I'm sure the mods and admins are sick of our whining and nagging. But that's what happens when you steamroll in a gross change like this. As for leaving the forum? I have left others and I will leave this one too if necessary. However, I do see the admins making a good effort to make things right and usable, so currently I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. My posts are down, as is my reading of threads though. Unless things are fixed, especially the search function and forum appearance, I will move on.

I'm not thrilled with this new forum either, but I'm sure I won't leave it. My concern is when they start tearing up the galleries. I spend most of my Renderosity time posting to the galleries or browsing them and I can't stand the thought of what's to come. PLEASE leave them alone!:b_nervous:

I have to agree wholeheartedly with Acadia's response above. I am not going to play with coding ~ why can't the options have buttons to press to give you choices of different colours? Not unheard of and certainly a lot more modern than the user having to change coding!!! I'm not really sure if there are many new comments in the forums I visit...it is so hard to read but new messages should be on the top... I AM one of the grumpy ones and I do not see anything wrong with declaring it. :(

I've managed to make the forum display white text on dark background (same colour as the sidebar) If anyone want it, I posted the css in the Community Center forum

How about one that has the forum display black text on the light blue background that shows in every other post, with a font of 18px?

Quote - " It's been a while since the artist Community was changed to merely "Art" - this isn't about the people here any more."

Hasn't been for a long time ... since about .. oh... around the time that every artist communitiy became a 3d Marketplace have any questions about the primary function of this site? look at the title bar of your IE/Netscape/firefox window. The logo may say art community but the title bar says it all "Renderosity Marketplace".

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2641863

The titlebar says Marketplace because the forum is on the market.renderosity.com server, as does every other page generated on the server. Don't get upset over picky details like that. Personally, I feel that getting people to enter CSS rules to change appearance is a very poor move. How many people here can write CSS off the top of their heads? Besides, as an html and custom server application designer, I despise CSS as a web language. It's too problematic and far from universal in the way it is presented from browser to browser. It just encourages the paper layout junkies to keep producing the garbage code instead of learning something that works universally.

the titlebar says market place because when the pages were being developed the phrase "Renderosity Marketplace" was put in between the (title) (/title) tags for each page, or it was dumped into a database field or most likely a config file. It has nothing to do with what server it's on it's a coding choice.

I don't think it's a good thing either. However, I can see it as being a temporary fix. I can live with these colors for a while. What I think is more important is that they fix things like.... In the old threads there were often links. Those links don't show up now. Therefore all the threads I had bookmarked because they contained links to something are useless. I'd like to get those links back - things like that are more important to me than color. Oh wait. I just checked. That's working now. Yippee!

People come and go so quickly here!
-Dorothy..;)
I feel like this is now 2 sites; the 'old' site, and this area..;) I do miss looking at a glance to see if anyone's written something after me ('specially when I'm asking a question..;), and the links are important (being the 'A-R' person I am, I have a database of many of the posted links..never know when you'll need some
y'know.. I just noticed that after the 1st post, the subject line gets stuck at the top..that's very rough on those with short-term memory pr...what was I talking about?..;)

Moved to Community Centre.

Moved, yes, but... still the same

vaya con dios, amigo mio. pero no te enojes - lo reparar pronto. :b_cool:

Hello We do understand this is frustrating for everyone. The programmers are working on things as fast as they can and some of the solutions such as the color issue are temporary fixes until we can revisit them. Please be patient and give them a little time to get to some of these issues. Just as with the Marketplace conversion, its alot of data, alot of change so for a minute it is all overwhelming for everyone.

Quote - "vaya con dios, amigo mio. pero no te enojes - lo reparar pronto. :b_cool:"

Eso espero, Miss

"The programmers are working on things as fast as they can..." When I start working on a new project, I first draw up a list of what should be needed and how to get it. Then I make a time-plan, how long is it going to take to achieve what I'm after? This done, I sit down and start working, methodically, tackling the list items one by one, until no one is left to tackle. My project is ready now, but not tested. Another list is drawn: what kind of tests are required, how to go about it, what could go wrong... The project enters testing phase (usually with outsiders helping)... During testing some things can go wrong... They are noted down and solved one by one until the bottom of the list is reached again... Now the project (the product if you prefer) is ready for release. Some things can still go wrong, but these would require minor fixes only, or, if this isn't the case (and big problems arise) it would only mean that somewhere along the line someone (me) didn't do his job right. It happened during the marketplace migration and we thought this would serve as a lesson for the next move. It didn't apparently. It's happening again... Would it happen once more in the next migration? The thought makes me shiver. Bottom line: It is far better prevent instead of trying to find cures afterward. If the famous "programmers" in charge of the move can't do their job right, fire them and hire new ones, capable ones. As I'm expected to present a faultless product at the time it hits the market, so I expect those in charge of the framework design of this community to fulfill the same (required) standards. Rules are made to apply to all, comrades. --Panos