since we have the insane idea that we can override the styles here, I need help. I have no idea at all what I'm looking at with the override. I'm not a coder. do I copy and paste the default into the box and change it? How do I change it, so I've got a neutral grey background, (127,127,127) with black text, links in Blue and read links in red? can anyone just post here what we're supposed to do? and please. slap the programmer upside the head and remind him that not everyone codes.

What you need is a primer on CSS first. It's sorta like HTML and javascript, but specificly intended to address layout and appearance issues. Kinda like typesetting, but for the web. These might help... http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/learning http://www.w3schools.com/css/ http://www.echoecho.com/css.htm http://www.htmldog.com/ Once you get an idea of what CSS can do/does, then... You'll still have to look through the source to figure out what classes/IDs are associated with certain web site elements. Not exactly easy for the newb to this thing, but probably the only way to go about it until the site gets settled down/debugged and those things get documented somewhere. (Hopefully there'll be a graphic block diagram showing which class/id affects what area.) I'm tempted to just give a list of some settings for my CSS here, but I have a feeling that we'll see a revision or two that will address bugs here and alter the effectiveness of these settings. (A couple of classes/ids don't even go to the elements they name and such. Understandable to some extent when they get lost in table tags. I'm thinking my current workarounds for those shouldn't last very long.)

....mother. thats all greek to me mate.. I have no idea what you are saying. I failed programming 3 times at college.. I just can't do it.. some kind of mental block :( I look at those links, what your saying and the code and my brain exits the back of my head and runs off. (no joke) thanks anyway..

I tried, and... Hmm.. I can't make the css work properly... It changes the front page of the forum but not the actual posts. And I DID change the font colour to white as well, and that didn't seem to carry thorugh either :think: What am I doing wrong? I do have a basic grasp of css... but I just can't find the proper things to change here...

It's quite annoying that we have to learn CSS coding in order to do such a basic function as change the colour of the forum. Sheesh. I can't even make the font larger. I was told what to change in another thread only nothing happens when I change it.

Attached Link: http://www.siteprocentral.com/cgi-bin/feed/feed.cgi

I posted this in the Vue forum, maybe that will help you a little more ... Go into 'my options' - you should be able to customize the style sheet on the site to your needs. It is not very user friendly yet, but it should help you play with colors. Click on 'Click here to show/hide the default CSS setup ' to display the current style sheet. Copy / paste the style sheet into the text area under 'My Style'. You can edit the size of the font, colors, borders, etc right there. If you need help getting the right colors for your page, use this link and replace the values prefixed by '#'. There seems to be a problem with font sizes. The developers are looking into it. For now, you should be able to replace all the colors at least.

rolls eyes ok. now can someone please just PASTE what I should put? seriously I can't do this. I just spent an hour arguing with someone IRC trying to explain that editing css is beyond me and telling me over and over again, 'goto this page read and then do this' is not going to work.

Well... if you edit the 'forum_message_cell' line to look like this : .forum_message_cell {background-color:#9aa5ab; } and replace #9aa5ab by the color code of your choice, you will change the color of the messages (but you will loose the alternating color). If you want to change the color of the main background, add this to your style sheet : BODY {background-color:#9aa5ab; } .content_cell { background-color:#9aa5ab; } I will look into how to change one alternating color or the other.

colour code? ....you speak in tongues!

Use : .forum_avatar_cell {background-color:#9aa5ab; } if you want to change the color of the first coloum (where your avatar is).

ok.. thanks anyway. I'm choosing to give up. it's the most stupid thing I've seen and I don't have time to figure it out.. I'll just visit less and goto other poser sites.

If you go to the link I mentionned above 'http://www.siteprocentral.com/cgi-bin/feed/feed.cgi' you will be able to chose the color you want. The corresponding color code is listed in the middle row, first column, just under the little box that changes color when you moves the sliders. Remember that this system is only a workaround until the developers have time to create something more user friendly. Right now they have plenty of urgent issues to look into (such as post orders or ebots). If you can show me what you want your page to look like (with a screenshot of your gallery or a link to a page with the same kind of colors), I can post a style sheet that will match it as much as I can...

no it's ok - you've got better things to do with your time than fix a cockup you've been landed with. as to the developers.. I won't go into what I think of them since it would break the TOS. but I pity you Mod's and Admins having to deal with Dodo that they have foisted off on you. every 'fix' or 'issue' you are seeing should have been caught in testing. the fact that it was not shows that you have serious problems with the developers.

Quote - "Go into 'my options' - you should be able to customize the style sheet on the site to your needs. Click on 'Click here to show/hide the default CSS setup ' to display the current style sheet. Copy / paste the style sheet into the text area under 'My Style'. You can edit the size of the font, colors, borders, etc right there. If you need help getting the right colors for your page, use this link and replace the values prefixed by '#'. There seems to be a problem with font sizes. The developers are looking into it. For now, you should be able to replace all the colors at least."

Have done that. I wanted colour #808080, a basic grey with text colour #00000. And I wanted a font size of 18px. After entering that stuff everywhere, and saving the changes, nothing happened. The forum looked exactly the same as it did before. I was told in another thread that in order to change the message windows and font, that you have to change the .forum_message_cell. I tried doing that, but nothing happened. And yes, I did save the changes. a.forum_avatar_link:visited { font-size:10px; }; .forum_message_cell { font-size:18px; } .forum_message_detail_table { border-bottom:1px solid #808080; padding-top:2px;

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2641863

Quote - "*rolls eyes* ok. now can someone please just PASTE what I should put? seriously I can't do this. I just spent an hour arguing with someone IRC trying to explain that editing css is beyond me and telling me over and over again, 'goto this page read and then do this' is not going to work. "

See that thread. There are 2 examples of what people have done. If you like one of them, copy the string of text, and then go to your "my options", and in the large box below where you put your avatar, paste what you copied. Save the changes. If you don't like it, go back and "reset changes", and then save again.

Quote - "colour code? ....you speak in tongues!"

Not a dig, and CSS aside, but how can you possibly understand digital art in any fashion or form and not have a basic grasp of color codes? Have you never used a paint program before?

Khai: just a little tip on color codes. (Many forum members know the following stuff by heart. Please don't be annoyed). Color code #9aa5ab for example. The # stands for: this is a code. Thest of the code are 6 hexadecimal digits. Actually 3 groups of 2 hexadecimal digits: 9a a5 ab These hexadecimal numbers represent R, G and B values. Now how do you make use of this info? Fire up any 2D program. Even the lowly Windows Paint will do the job. Bring its color picker forward and pick a color you like. The Red, Green and Blue values you see in the lower right corners are what you want. Problem is, they're in decimal notation, and HTML/CSS wants colors in hexadecimal notation. An easy way to convert from decimal to hexadecimal is using the Calculator included with Windows. Set it to Scientific view, set the radio group (Hex, Dec, Oct, Bin) to Dec, enter your decimal number, then set the radio group to Hex. The number changes: that's the hexadecimal number you want. So now you can get your color code. The color I picked in the attached screenshot of the Windows Paint color picker (R 44, G 98, B 118) will translate into (R 2C, G 62, B 76), resulting in color code #2C6276. Hope this helps. Edited to correct one of the numbers.

Khai, I'm the same. Total doofus when it comes to this CSS lark. However, by using the code in the first post of this thread by pleonastic forum look modding and changing the names of the colours in the text I have managed to customise my forum view. Even better, if you just use standard web colours you can just type in the name of the colour and not even bother with the hex code or whatever.

the color picker to use: http://mediagods.com/tools/rgb2hex.html

Here's what mine now looks like, with no hex codes needed! :)

erm I know HSS and RGB. I don't know HEX codes. that simple enough? this is embarrassing enough ok? I can't code. I have a mental block which I have been to shrinks about. there. I've said it. can I go and hang my head in shame now?

Khai, have a look at the color picker link I posted -- click on the color map, it'll display the hex code below, no need to convert!

still can't read that mess called a CSS sheet. just leave it ok. I'm ashamed enough as it is.

ah bah, nothing to be ashamed about; programming isn't everyone's strength, and we all have our own idiosyncracies and mental blocks. also, there is no reason at all why anyone should need to program in order to use an art site; this is just a temporary stopgap measure until the designers and programmers come up with a better way. it's a shortcoming of theirs to not have done this for you, it's not your fault! tell you what; give me a screenshot of a site that does colours and font sizes the way you like them, and i make your CSS for you.

Quote - "erm I know HSS and RGB. I don't know HEX codes. that simple enough? this is embarrassing enough ok? I can't code. I have a mental block which I have been to shrinks about. there. I've said it. can I go and hang my head in shame now? "

Khai so what you've been to a shrink, most people need to at one time or another, so hold that head up high and proud.

Ok, here is the absolute simple and easy way to change the colors - and you don't need to understand stylesheets and CSS coding at all to do it. Step #1: Copy the CSS code and paste it into any decent text editing program (it MUST have a "search and replace" function) Step #2: Open your favorite paint program (I use Paint Shop Pro 7 for this). Step #3: Using the search and replace function of the text editor, search for # - DO NOT put anything in the REPLACE box. Hit enter. Step #4: When you get to the first # found - look at the line. If it says something like "background color" then it is the background color. Copy the numbers after the # and paste them into the little box in your paint program that has # followed by 6 numbers. The color will show up in the color box and will show you what color you are editing. If you want that color to stay the same, just go back to the text editor and hit the "find next" button in the search box. If you want to change the color, find the color you like in the picker and the numbers in the hex box will change. Copy those and replace the numbers in the text editor. It takes a little time, but if you go line by line you can get it done without needing to understand the actuall CSS coding. Once you have the colors changed to what you like, save the file, copy it and paste it to the box in the My Options section and hit the appropriate button. Tada! No muss, little fuss. NOTE: This method does not work when you are dealing with color NAMES. To apply this to color NAMES you have to find each one (grey, blue, red, etc.) and replace those with the color codes of your choice. Kate (who doesn't understand CSS either, but knows at least enough HTML to figure out the important stuff)