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Subject: Erasing a Model after Rendering


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 1:18 PM · edited Fri, 26 July 2024 at 7:14 AM

This is a hard question to ask so I'll do my best
:blushing:  After I render a picture from Poser, I want to erase certain parts of the model within Photoshop CS 2 without erasing the background.  I have no clue how to do that.  I'm actually trying to follow a cool reflection TUT

http://www.uniquerenditions.com/ParadiseWaterTutorial/BatherTutorial.htm

by Linwhite but I get lost when trying to erase portions of just the model.  TIA.
Adrian


chinnei ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 1:47 PM

If I am not mistaken, I believe the author rendered the figure by itself without the background.  Then all you have to do is export that as TIFF or PNG and open it in photoshop and load only the figure.  Then you add your background as a separate layer underneath the figure.  So, if you erase any part of your rendered figure layer, it will only erase the figure only.


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 1:54 PM

Chinnei
OH okay I get it now, thank you so much.  I have no clue and I'm such a newbie :biggrin:  Thanks again.
Adrian


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 2:08 PM

I give up.  I don't know how to implement the figure into the background. 
Adrian


chinnei ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 2:10 PM

No problem Adrian.

I also consider myself a newb but there's nothing wrong with asking questions.  I guess, in this case, it's just another newb trying to help out another newb. :b_smile:


chinnei ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 2:11 PM

Quote - I give up.  I don't know how to implement the figure into the background. 
Adrian

Heh, another crosspost, I guess I spoke too soon.

Could you explain a little more what's stomping you.


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 2:17 PM

Chinnei
Thanks for responding.  When you said:

"Then you add your background as a separate layer underneath the figure."

 How do I export the background picture in order to put the model into it?  That I don't get.  Thanks.
Adrian


chinnei ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 2:40 PM

Attached Link: Background

If you are going by the tutorial, the author has already provided the background.

All you have to do is open that picture in photoshop along with the picture of your figure.  Then just do the drag and drop the background layer onto the figure layer.  Of course, you need to resize or crop one of the image as necessary to fit together, although you could just render the figure image in same size as the background.

OTOH, if you are creating your own, then you would need to do two renders.  One for the figure only and one for the background only.  Export each render from poser as TIFF, and open them in Photoshop and follow the above step.

Let me know if you got this far.


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 2:43 PM

Chinnei
Thanks for your help.  I will definetly let you know how it goes.  Wish me luck 😄
Adrian


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 2:46 PM

Chinnei
I know this sounds really bad but I don't know how to drag and drop the figure into the background.  Thats what I'm stumped on.  I got both of them separate but that's it so far.
Adrian


pakled ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 2:58 PM · edited Sat, 22 April 2006 at 2:59 PM

going off in left feild (I'm left-handed, so I'm entitled..;), another possiblity is to just render using the background, find the parts  in Poser characters you don't want to display, double-click, and uncheck 'visible' from properties.. (I only have the Gimp, so I'm not much help with Photoshop..;) just an idea..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 3:01 PM

Pakled
So you are saying to put the figure within the background but to erase the parts I want and then render it?  I do have gimp myself but thats another story for me :lol:  Thanks for your help.
Adrian


chinnei ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 3:07 PM

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I also forgot to add that before doing drag and drop, you would need to clean up the figure image to rid of the blank background since it's a Tiff.  Here's how:

Open up the figure image in PS, go to Select menu, click on Load Selection.  Once you get new menu, make sure that channel is set to Alpha, and click ok.  It'll then highlight the figure by itself.  Then go to Select menu again and click Inverse.  Then all you have to do is hit Delete and now all you have is image of figure by itself.

Now, as for drag and drop, first make sure you are using the background image window.  Then at the layer palette, as shown by the image above, click and hold the layer (here, indicated by "Layer 1"), then drag that layer across to the window of your figure image.  Once, you drop that layer, now you will see two different layers shown on the layer palette of you figures image.

 


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 3:38 PM

Chinnei
Thanks.  I will try that and see what happens.  I will let you know.  You just tought me something :thumbupboth:
Adrian


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 3:59 PM

Chinnei
OK everything worked until I got to the part of fliping the layer vertically.  It rotates the whole canvass, not just the layer by itself.
Adrian


chinnei ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 4:10 PM

Instead of flipping the whole canvas, go to Edit, Transform, and Flip Vertically.  This will flip only the selected layer.


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 4:13 PM

Chinnei
OH man you are to good.  My biggest problem is I dont have a clue :lol:
Adrian


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 4:19 PM

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Chinnei You are so good.  I'm posting what I got done and please critque it so I can get better at it.  Thank you so much. Adrian


chinnei ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 4:51 PM

Well, glad I could help out but you did most of the work. 😄

That came out great btw.

Personally, I would've done the reflection and the background all in the Poser, instead of PS, because I could never get the angles and lighting on the figure right if I do it separately.  Seems like you got a better handle of it than I do.


grahamjames ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 5:08 PM

Don't know if it helps but saving as .png preserves transparency so you don't have to worry about alpha channels. I would render the image without the background and save as .png then render the background and save as whatever you prefer. Mix the 2 in your image editor of choice and you should be able to achieve the results you desire.


Circumvent ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 7:11 PM

I can definetly use any good tips.  And I know I need to do some tweaking but at least I got the hang of it.  Thanks again.
Adrian


pakled ( ) posted Sat, 22 April 2006 at 11:21 PM · edited Sat, 22 April 2006 at 11:21 PM

ok..it's obvious I didn't read the tut..;)
Actually, what I had in mind was to do the Poser pic, and if you want to hide parts of the body, etc., you double click on the area, and uncheck the 'visible' part, and it doesn't show up (at least in
Version 4, which is what I have). You can also unclick 'cast shadow', which can be useful at times..;)

You can then do all the other parts of the pic in Photoshop, set it the way you want, then 'Import, Background Picture', and do it that way. May not be what you want, but it was how I read it.

Pakleds are not known to be smart..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


Circumvent ( ) posted Sun, 23 April 2006 at 6:52 PM

Pakleds
Coolies. I can try that too. Every little bit helps :tt2:
Adrian


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