Is anyone aware of a V3 morph for Lourdes Mercado's Shadow Dancer for Aiko 3?
Thanks.

Not really sure what you are asking.  Are you wanting to know if there is an outfit like that for V3? If so if you have Wardrobe Wizard, you can use the A3 outfit and conform it to V3 or any other figure that WW supports...even millennium baby if you wanted to. 

If you don't have Wardrobe Wizard, you can find out more about it and purchase it at PhilC's website.

That's exactly what I was asking- although WW is a tad on the expensive side. Maybe I'll look elsewhere for a similar outfit. Thanks for responding.

Quote - That's exactly what I was asking- although WW is a tad on the expensive side. Maybe I'll look elsewhere for a similar outfit. Thanks for responding.

Wardrobe Wizard may seem like alot to pay out for a program to use in conjunction with Poser.  I thought the same thing at first.

However, while this may be true for some Poser items, it's not true for Wardrobe Wizard.  With WW it actually saves you money.

You can buy one outfit, or download free outfits, and use WW to convert that clothing to any WW supported figure.  PLUS, it's great for fitting clothing to morphed figures.  Simply analyze the clothing on an out of the box M3 for example.  Then morph him the way you want, and then "convert to" the morphed figure. You might have to smooth and inflate select clothing body areas, but you can now fit clothing around beef cake and buxom figures without much hassel.

When you analyze an item with WW a .dat file is created. This .dat file contains information that WW gathered from the clothing that will allow it to fit the clothing to your WW supported figures when you use "Convert To" in the future. Analyze once and use over and over again so long as you don't delete the generated .dat file from the folder.

If you have the clothing and the .dat file you don't need to have the original figure in your library that the clothing was made for.

You only need the original figure if you are wanting to analyze the clothing/item yourself.

For example let's say that you don't have MIKI but you see some cute FREE outfits for her that you wish you could use on SP3 or Vicky. There are two ways you could do this:

1. Buy MIKI and install the FREE cute clothing. Analyze the clothing using WW and then fit it to SP3 or Vicky using WW.

2. Download the .dat file(s) for the FREE cute MIKI clothing, put it on Vicky or SP3 and using WW "confrom to figure". So long as you have the clothing and the .dat files for that clothing, you don't need to have MIKI on your computer.

Also, many people share their  .dat files with other WW users, and everyone benefits because you are no longer restricted to only buying clothing for figures that you have in your library. So long as you have that little .dat file for that clothing, you can buy the clothing without worry and know that you'll be able to use it on any of the  figures  that are supported by WW that you do have in your library.  The secret is for people who have WW to commit to sharing their .dat files with other WW users.  PhilC has a whole forum dedicated to sharing .dat files.

Also, it helps you save on hard drive space too.  The .dat files are very small and you no longer have to have a bunch of files for each clothing item for every single figure you use it on. It takes only a few seconds to "convert to", which means that you can have one set of files for a given outfit, put the clothing on whatever WW supported figure you want, and convert the clothing each time and NOT have to save each set of conversions to your library for that figure.

WW has become a necessity to me and I literally use it every single time that I use Poser.

You certainly make a good case.  As much as I agree with you, I would find it to be too much of an investment. I am by no means a modeler. My area is animation and textures (I simply bring the products to life). Is it difficult for modelers to include morphs with their products so that it's compatible with all models and not restricted to one particular model? Or is that a pain in the a$$ so to speak, and would therefore increases the price of the product?

WW has nothing to do with modelling.  It's a python script you use from inside Poser that gathers data from the clothing/items and uses magnets to fit the clothing/items to a different figure.

I see. Well, I'll put it on my wishlist and purchase it when the time is right. I appreciate your input on this subject. It's a shame when you find that perfect product for your renders and you see it's for a different model...I suppose this is where WW users jump for joy. ;)

Thanks, Acadia.

Quote - It's a shame when you find that perfect product for your renders and you see it's for a different model...I suppose this is where WW users jump for joy. ;)

Thanks, Acadia.

Yep

Hi, WW works very well on some clothes, I have it, and if I thought it would work on shadow dancer I would buy the clothes as I would love that outfit for V3 too. But I tried WW on an outfit with metal bits (a sort of sci fi bathing costume with zipper down the front by BVH) and WW did not look at all good, the metal zipper went funny. I would like to see someone else try and modify shadow dancer for V3 in WW before I went out and bought those clothes. Love esther

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I found a couple of very small areas of poke-through on the shoulders, when I used WW on ShadowDancer, to fit it to V3, but there was nothing that couldn't be easily fixed.   I agree with everything  Acadia said about WW.   Just for the sake of converting one item from A3 to V3, or whatever, it would be expensive, but you soon get to see the benefit, either adapting clothing to different figures, or fitting unmorphed clothes to morphed figures.   I use it frequently.

I'd like to say that there is a V3 version of the Shadow Dancer in the works.  Xena (she is  a Goddess btw) is working on the conversion as we speak=)

Lourdes

Goddess  chuckles  Don't I wish :) I'm just a master of my magnets :biggrin:

i'm sure joint positions come into it as well as magnets you are master iof the whole lot. xena clothes were the very first v3 clothes i ever bought when i first started out in poser. poor v3 was almost naked when she first arrived at daz, until xena saved her. well if u check the galleries she's still a little underdressed at times. love esther

Nice work semidieu, and if xena wasn't making the V3 outfit I would think about trying that too, but I would rather have the xena one even though I'll have to pay. I really like some of the shadowdancer texture addons that have been made which are available here in the rendero MP. Love esther

Wardrobe Wizard is a great addition, but only for "not too close" render. It's always better to have original clothes for the correct character.

Well, what WW is doing is magnet work and rejointing. With some tweaking, you can get results as good if not better than the original. I've actually had a few items improve from applying WW, smoothing, expanding, shrinking, and editing joints.

I've yet to see commercially viable conversions out of any converting utility.

I've yet to have a need to try to sell somebody else's product. So no suprise there. I doubt any other user of a conversiont tool is thinking of trying such either. I've seen a lot of good work come out conversions. I'm not going to just hit the button once and be done with it - follow the entire path of converting, using the smoothing and other options, tweaking JPs, and maybe even finish off with a magnet or two. Often it can fix flaws in the initial product.

Quote - I've yet to have a need to try to sell somebody else's product. So no suprise there.
 I doubt any other user of a conversiont tool is thinking of trying such either.

Who is selling someone else's product? And if a conversion tool isn't producing commercially viable conversions then it isn't doing a good enough job. By commercially viable, I mean converting it well enough that it is comparable to the original product. No wrinkling, no loose fitting, etc.
If you purchased a refit piece of clothing and it contained these thing, you would complain and get a refund.

Quote - I've seen a lot of good work come out conversions.

And that's terrific for the general user. For the more experienced who wants top notch results, conversion tools aren't necessarily the best answer.

  > Quote - I'm not going to just hit the button once and be done with it - follow the entire path of converting, using the smoothing and other options, tweaking JPs, and maybe even finish off with a magnet or two.

I'd guess I've been using Poser longer than you even knew it existed, so I do know what I'm doing. I have used every conversion product available, and tweaked after it's done it's thing. For me personally, I still don't see commercially viable results. I believe if you're going to do something, do it right. What's the point of converting something if it's not going to be as good as the original? Perhaps I just expect too much.

Quote - Often it can fix flaws in the initial product.

Such as?