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Subject: Copy and Paste problems
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thats interesting. my Firefox (standard out of the installer settings) tells me when I right click and hit paste or copy "Your Browser Security Settings Don't permit the Editor to automatically execute pasting operations. Please use the keyboard for that (Ctrl+V)" (or Ctrl+C)
so, williamsn what have you changed in your settings then?
Quote - Sorry to be the detriment to the conversation, but I don't get the "security settings" message on my Firefox or my IE. Doesn't sound like a global problem to me.
I have version 1.5.03 of Mozilla-Firefox and I can't right click and copy/paste in the reply window either. I have to use CTL C and CTL V in order to do so.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Attached Link: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/852/
I was having the same problem with Firefox until I downloaded the AllowClipboard Helper extension for Firefox. Right clicking still doesn't work to paste, but I can use the Paste feature from the above menu now.Quote - Sorry to be the detriment to the conversation, but I don't get the "security settings" message on my Firefox or my IE. Doesn't sound like a global problem to me.
OK Nicholas, if your not having that copy and paste problem, how about being a nice guy here and let us all in on what you did to Firefox to correct it.*
Quote - I was having the same problem with Firefox until I downloaded the AllowClipboard Helper extension for Firefox. Right clicking still doesn't work to paste, but I can use the Paste feature from the above menu now.
I can right click and copy/paste in the reply window at other sites like Daz and Poser Pros and RDNA and other sites that have similar reply windows.
Of course, Renderosity has to take something so simple and complicate the hell out of it just because they don't want to take the chance that one line of code can be construed as having come from another another site, even if it's standard default for the boards.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
It was in one of the many complaint threads posted when the boards were changed. I don't remember which one. But I do distinctly remember reading that they are coding from scratch and it had to do with concerns over copyrights. I'll try and find the post and link it if I can find it.
I looked, but can't find it. There were so many complaint threads it would take too long to wade through them all. It might have been in one that was discussing changing theme colours, but I can't be sure.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
It is annoying, because I can do it with every other site I visit, I do it by habit.
I might add that it happens on two separate computers.
Come visit us at RenderGods.
Ignore the shooty dog thing.
wonder if we'll get a fix on this.
since I just tested it on a fresh install of Firefox.. no changes made, no addon's installed...
and right clicking and hitting Paste or Copy I get the msg.
I wonder if thats it.. it Willam is just hitting Right Click and seeing the menu come up.. then saying 'that works' - yup that does.. but then choosing paste or copy gives the security message...
On ever other php site I go to, the copy and paste feature works fine using Firefox, but it doesn't here. So what did they program into it to keep Firefox from using the copy and paste feature. I tried it with IE6 and it works like it should, just not with Firefox. Leave it to Rosity to screw something up.
Because in IE you get a menu with Cut, Copy, and Paste on it.
For FireFox / Mozilla / SeaMonkey the browser handle the right click by putting up it's normal context menu if you have unchecked the option to allow scripts to "Disable or replace context menus" (Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts & Plugins for Mozilla / SeaMonkey).
If you check that option, the same menu as with IE appears.
I don't have "Disable or replace context menus" checked (as you can see above) and I still have the copy and paste problem.
Next suggestion for Firefox.
Quote - > Quote - For FireFox / Mozilla / SeaMonkey the browser handle the right click by putting up it's normal context menu if you have unchecked the option to allow scripts to "Disable or replace context menus"
I don't have "Disable or replace context menus" checked (as you can see above) and I still have the copy and paste problem.
Next suggestion for Firefox.
If you check that option then the editor script can replace the context menu.
As you don't have it checked, then the editor script can't do any thing to the context menu.
I have that option checked and when I try to right click and paste in the reply window I get the following messages:
Your browser security settings don't permit the editor to automatically execute copying operations. Please use the keyboard for that (Ctrl+C).
Your browser security settings don't permit the editor to automatically execute pasting operations. Please use the keyboard for that (Ctrl+V).
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
I don't see anything about clipboards under any of the tabs in "Options".
What's PO'ing me off is the fact that with my current browser settings I can copy/paste in the reply box at every other site I visit, except this one! I don't want to change my browser settings to have popup ads just so I can right click and copy/paste at this ONE forum!
I don't see why Renderosity has to be so far out into left field that they are their own island and make their customers/users jump through hoops to do what every other site out there automatically allows.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Pop-ups are enabled on site by site basis.
The only downside to the better default security and privacy settings is that you have to find the right tweaks to get some things to work.
If you have any extensions that supplement FireFox's Pop-up blocking, you may need to alter someof the extensions configuration settings.
Quote - I did that. enabled popups for http://market.renderosity.com and made sure that this domain is free of all blocking.
no effect at all as reported.
Ditto.
Before they changed the forums I could see the ad banners at the top of the page. I liked that because it allowed me to find some nice products. Since the change, I can no longer view the ad banners at the top, even though I have added the following to my allow list:
http://market.renderosity.com
http://renderosity.com
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Quote - I notice that Admins and the programmer are suddenly very absent
Ummmm it IS the weekend ya know....maybe they are doing something silly...like..I dont know...enjoying family time/eating/sleeping? LOL
Seriously tho, we have to remember that everyone here has a real life they must attend to..they cant be here 24/7
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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Yes you probably won't hear from one of the programmers in this thread until Monday due to this being the weekend and they probably are spending time with their families... I just happen to check in a few times on the weekend but not all staff gets the chance to. I will alert Nicholas or Tommy so that they can respond next week.
Thanks and Happy Mothers Day to all the mom's!!
Khai,
They will respond next week I'm sure. The programmers don't frequent the forums as much as other admins as they are usually very wrapped up in other things. Nicholas has been going through finals last week so he was playing catch up on Thurs and Fri and Tommy was working on the site mail. I'm just saying that this is the weekend right now (when you made the post about the silence) so I was letting you know nobody is being "silent" intentionally and also wanted to assure you that they will respond as soon as they can. I was just taking it from the way you said it, that you thought it was an intentional thing and thats most definitely not the case.
@Jump...thank you, I'm hoping to have a nice relaxing day with my son tomorrow:) you enjoy your day with your kiddies ya hear?
Thanks
Ohhh.. Im going to go to my mom's tomorrow, and me and the girls are going to challange my brothers to a duel of badmitton...I will no doubt, once again, find muscles I never knew I had ROTFL! Give your little one a squeeze for me :)
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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Watch out for those rackets Stac 
:lol:
Seriously tho..I got smacked by a racket, and by one of those birdies...my 14 yr old daughter has a habit of spiking them..and i swear she thinks she is playing baseball...those things come at me like rockets ROTFL
Yup, planning a nice long soak afterwards for sure
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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Khai, FYI, I've been busy working on the forum speed and searches (refer to the announcement) and haven't had time to come back to this thread. I apologize in that I was mistaken in the fact that Copy and Paste worked on my firefox. I never ever use right-clicking. I use keyboard shortcuts for everything. So I just did that by habit, it worked, and it never registered in my brain ... "right-click". Also, selecting "Disable or replace context menus" doesn't make it work for me, either. Quite frankly, I don't understand why one would prefer right-clicking and selecting copy/paste versus using Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V. Right-clicking seems like a big pain in the butt for me. Takes too long. Keyboard shortcuts are much faster. As I have said in numerous other threads, we didn't make this edit box. It is an open-source and very powerful editing box called the FCK Editor (http://www.fckeditor.net). It is used in numerous applications throughout Bondware, mostly in the back-end, for editing site content and news. Using it for the forums was the simplest solution to the growing complaints that we didn't have an edit box at all. At this time, there is nothing we can do about this problem. I suggest you just get used to using your keyboard shortcuts. Sorry. I prefer FireFox over IE anyday, so please don't suggest that we're catering to IE users. You can ask any Admin that works with me that I am heard on a daily basis complaining about the woes that IE brings to my job. Nicholas
-Nicholas
Quote - Keyboard shortcuts are much faster.
Heh, now there speaks a coder ;-). Anyone who is remotely dyslexic (like me) is going to throw a rock at you for saying that (but since poor motor coordination is usually associated with dyslexia you'll probably survive).
Seriously, site design should be prioritised with the needs of users in mind, not the preferences of designers. A great many members of Renderosity (I'd bet the vast majority) are users of programs like Poser and Bryce that are specifically designed for 'normal' people who are uncomfortable with 'tech-nerd' computer interface practice. Graphical User Interfaces are mainstream because most people find the keyboard an aggravating way to interact with a computer.
Quote - ...very powerful editing box called the FCK Editor
Yes, quite a lot of people here have called it that. ;-)
Quote - Quite frankly, I don't understand why one would prefer right-clicking and selecting copy/paste versus using Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V. Right-clicking seems like a big pain in the butt for me. Takes too long. Keyboard shortcuts are much faster.
I prefer to use a context menu. I've had a computer for 6 years now and until these board changes took place the only keyboard short cuts I knew were:
CTRL ALT DEL
The reason I prefer and use right and left click:
- I'm not comfortable with keyboard shortcuts.
2. I have arthritic fingers and it's easier and faster and less painful for me to simply right click and then left click the mouse buttons.
3. I'm not very dextrous with my left hand and I find having to CTRL V and CTRL C very awkward.
4. I have a hard time remembering macros.
5. Because I want to.
6. My hand is on the mouse anyway and it's much faster for me to simply press the right mouse button, pick something to do and left click to execute it.
As I said above. I can use my mouse to right and left click in reply boxes at other sites, but not here. Please change it so that right and left mouse click are available again.
Quote - Anyone who is remotely dyslexic (like me) is going to throw a rock at you for saying that (but since poor motor coordination is usually associated with dyslexia you'll probably survive).
That too. Which accounts for the difficulty I have in remembering keyboard shortcuts, and poor dexterity/co-ordination.
Quote - Seriously, site design should be prioritised with the needs of users in mind, not the preferences of designers.
You would think so wouldn't you?
Quote - A great many members of Renderosity (I'd bet the vast majority) are users of programs like Poser and Bryce that are specifically designed for 'normal' people who are uncomfortable with 'tech-nerd' computer interface practice. Graphical User Interfaces are mainstream because most people find the keyboard an aggravating way to interact with a computer.
Raises hand
Quote - ...very powerful editing box called the FCK Editor
Yes, quite a lot of people here have called it that. ;-)
I know I have. That word was never in my vocabulary until lately.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
They fixed the search and ebots! So maybe there is still hope for right and left clicking in the reply window :)
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Checked a copy of Firefox on a machine at work, no problem getting the Cut/Copy/Paste context menu to appear.
I've also took a look at the JavaScript Console to see if any errors might give a clue.
There appear to be problems in some of the embedded styles and in some of the editor sytlesheets (dialog/common/fck_dialog_common.css, skins/silver/fck_editor.css, and skins/silver/fck_contextmenu.css).
Offending properties are [reason for problem] :-
cursor:hand; [hand is not in the CSS2 standard]
font-face [probably meant to font-family]
padding-lft [typo, probably meant to be padding-left]
text-overflow [not in CSS2 standard, IE only]
behavior [only supported IE]
filter [IE only]
Quote - Offending properties are [reason for problem] :- cursor:hand; [hand is not in the CSS2 standard] font-face [probably meant to font-family] padding-lft [typo, probably meant to be padding-left] text-overflow [not in CSS2 standard, IE only] behavior [only supported IE] filter [IE only]
None of those offending properties you mention affect the functionality of the editor. The cursor, font-face, padding-lft, text-overflow, behavior, and filter properties (in fact, the entire files you are referencing) are only used for the skin of the editor, not the application. What is causing this error is that FireFox is not allowing an internal iFrame to perform copy and paste options through the parent document. They have it set that way because it is seen as a "security risk" as spammers, adware placers, viruses and hackers could use the reverse of this operation to affect the user's machine. When you right click on the editor, you are not bringing up a context menu created by FireFox, you are bringing up a context menu created by the editor. The editor isn't preventing FireFox from copying and pasting, FireFox is preventing the editor from copying and pasting. But FireFox still lets you use the 'Ctrl+V' and 'Ctrl+C' because only YOU can click the buttons on your keyboard. Nevertheless, we still have SOME firefox users who are able to use the context menu, so there must be a security setting somewhere. I will try to find it and post instructions when I do. However, as long as you are able to at least copy and paste in ONE way or another, this will not be a priority, as we have to get the galleries and two dozen other things finished. Only if there are people who cannot copy and paste by ANY means will we really focus on this issue. Nicholas
-Nicholas
"Nevertheless, we still have SOME firefox users who are able to use the context menu, so there must be a security setting somewhere."
yup those not using Firefox 1.5 or higher... so it's unlikley to be a setting to adjust to fix this at this time on this version of the editor.
fair enough. it's an issue with the newer versions of Firefox. this is what I wanted to know, not a 'It works for me' message that came across as just rude and I don't give a ****.
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just wondering why I can't rightclick and copy or rightclick and paste here without being told my browser settings won't allow it?
this is the only site this happens on, so no, it's not my browser and no I'm not changing settings.
I can use Ctrl C and Ctrl V, but I'm wondering why the site won't let me just rightclick?