Was wondering if anyone could tell me if this is a good cpu to use for rendering in Vue, Poser, Bryce, Terragen etc.

I don't know enough about AMD cpu's anyhow here's the type of cpu:

AMD Athlon(TM) 64 X2 4400+ dual-core - 2.2GHz

Thanks for any help...

seems fine to me,

i use myself a intel P4, 3.2 Ghz with 2mb cache(CPU).  Also 2048mb of memory.
Works fine for me with Vue and Terragen.

I heard, but don't know if it's really true, that AMD is a bit better, so in that case, for you a plus point i think.

Javil

Thanks for the info. Another point for me is the price. AMD cpu PCs seem able to be purchased for less than Pentiums

That is true, as for speed at the end of the day there is actualy little in it. I would advise as much ram as possible, 3GB would be a smart choise for vue in particular. since i upgraded to 3GB I do have less problems.

3.6P4 extreme 3GB self built system cost with all the other bits $800

Until graphic arts programs are able to make use of the video card resources (like games can), it is wise to put your money into processing power and memory.

Lin

You should get a bit extra power with your choice as vue is a multi-threaded application. And yes I agree, you can never have enough cpu and ram in Vue

Thanks for the info all, I appresiate it.

Well I broke down and got a HP pc. It has 4gigs of ram, AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core processor 4600+

I've been having problems now with Vue, it usually is justrendering black no matter what I try to do and change it. Was wondering if anyone hear would have suggestions. I run Windows XP serviec pack 2.

Quote - Well I broke down and got a HP pc. It has 4gigs of ram, AMD Athlon 64x2 dual core processor 4600+

I've been having problems now with Vue, it usually is justrendering black no matter what I try to do and change it. Was wondering if anyone hear would have suggestions. I run Windows XP serviec pack 2.

 Well sadly Poser 4 no longer works right either. :(

**Brian S - I have a AMD64 4000+ and no render problems with check your updates and video drivers - the Poser 4 problem is because of the amount of memory you have (to much for it) I dont know if the patch from efrontier fix's this or not but I do know that some one on the net created a wrapper that tells Poser you have less ram then you really do have sorry I can't remeber the web site but a google search with your Poser error code should direct you there.

Good luck
**

Thanks for the reply, guess some of my software is just too old for these new systems.

Here's the P4 memory patch:   http://www.e-frontier.com/filemanager/list/updates/58/65/85/?sbss=

For Vue, what version of Vue are you running? (Vue 4, Vue 5 Esprit, Vue 5 Infinite?) Do you have the latest update?

I have Vue 5 Esprit, and the latest updates as far as I know. As for Poser, that fix didn't seem to work as I keep getting an error that it can't read the .obj of any figures, then says I'm out of memory.

I recommend you double check your Vue version against the update page at e-on software to be certain.

Regarding Poser, you will get that error if you have a hang or crash of Poser while you're trying to load a figure. You need to go to the Poser geometry folder and delete the  .rsr file associated with the obj file. Once you do that, you can restart Poser and load the figure and Poser will regenerate the geometry .rsr and you'll be fine.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! Still no good, it appears I'd have to erase every single rsr file, and it would be way too many to do by hand.

Also, I don't really  know much of anything about these types of cpu's is the one I had gotten any good? Asking cause thing is slower than the old old pc I swaped it for a P4 at 2.2ghz. At this point I'm thinking I made a big mistake with this thing. I thought it would be my dream system, but alas it's turning into a nightmare....

For the Poser problems, Brian, I recommend you post over in the Poser forum. That's where I have gotten a lot of help and answers regarding the program.

Thanks for trying to help me out...

As far as your problems with Vue rendering black, this sounds like it would be either an update issue, or maybe the drivers for your graphics board. If I were you, I"d head over to e-on and put in a tech support ticket; there might be an easy answer for this!

And you're welcome!

Brian, ther's nothing wrong with your CPU. It is a fine choice! A good, powerful, very well-built cpu. Something else is wrong with your machine, and it sounds like it might be the settings used for your video card. What video board do you have?

I agree with Forester - I've got the AMD 3800 dual-core with 4gigs on an HP and it runs Vue (as well as C4D 9.6, Poser6, and Bryce 5.5) like a dream - I also have a NiVidia 7800 GT-OC so I'm wondering what graphics card you have?

Djeser's also right - send in a message to e-on with a complete list of your specs and see if they have a solution for you.
Good luck-
-Lew ;-)

I have a Geforce 7300 LE. Has 256mb ram. And from what I understand it can use system memory if need be.

I'm not 100% sure but it appears that Norton's virus check was somehow slow my PC down very much. I am having a real time trying to get it to stop. I think I got it now though.

OK, I'll see what I can learn about this card. The nVida Geforce cards are very good - they want Open GL drivers, so one thing to do is to look in your Vue (File|Options|Display Options Tab) to see whether or not you are using Open GL. (Try experimenting with the "Display Quality Settings" options there to see if that helps. (You'll have to exit and re-open Vue each time you change the setting.) Also, go to http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp to see if you can download and install the latest drivers for your specific card. I've never heard of the LE model of your card before, but I'll try to do a little research on it. This definitely sounds like a video problem.

Plus, by all means, post a "Trouble Ticket" - ask for technical help on the E-On site. Those technical people are quite good, and they have a lot of experience with various video cards. It is between 11:30 and midnight in France right now, so you'll need to follow the Help instructions on E-On's web site, and wait for an answer for at least overnight.

Hmm, after some reading the 7300 LE isn't that great of a vidieo card. It's mainly for those who don't purchase mega machine PC's. I checked it with Vue and it said it was an ok board to use..

Ok one final question. If I was to get poser6 would it work vith vue well? Also will poser6 load the many, many, many characters from poser4?

Well, the notion of it working "well" is debated in this forum time and again - haven't had any problems myself in the VERY LIMITED amount of time I've done it, but you'll read some horror stories from some others.

Yes, you can load native Poser6 characters with clothing - seems the consistent complaint is dynamic properties like certain hair characteristics can sometimes be problematic.

You can also save them as OBJ (instead of native PZ3) files and import easily - you just can;t make changes in Poser and have them automatically updated the next time you open Vue.

Dunno specifically if it'll load everything you've got from v4 - but there's a folder that's labelled Poser4 in my copy of DAStudio - which means it's in Poser6 as well.

Brian,

I use Poser 6 with Vue-I and it works fine.

Regarding your video problem: Try turning off all hardware acceleration in your Display Control Panel and see if that doesn't fix it. If it does fix it, then you know you have an out-dated video driver and need to get a patch.

To turn of hardware acceleration, do the following:

1. Right-click anywhere on the desktop and choose properties to bring up the Dispaly window.
2. Click the Settings tab
3. Click the Advanced button
4. Click the Troubleshoot TAB (not the button) in the new window
5. Drag the Hardware acceleration slider all the way to the left (NONE) then Apply and OK.

Now launch VUE and see if it works. If it doesn't work, then you have OTHER problems than the video board.

HTH,

Chipp

Well, Vue always did work. Only it got terribly slow. Poser won't work but that's an issue with poser4. I ran Bryce, Vue, (both rendering high res images) And played World Of Warcraft all at the same time. With no hiccups anywhere to be seen. Sometimes it still acts like it won't let me click out of one program to get to the others.

Quote - I agree with Forester - I've got the AMD 3800 dual-core with 4gigs on an HP and it runs Vue (as well as C4D 9.6, Poser6, and Bryce 5.5) like a dream - I also have a NiVidia 7800 GT-OC so I'm wondering what graphics card you have?

Ok I'm wondering just how quiet are these HP pc's with AMD cpus??? I can hardly even hear the one I have. Makes me wonder if the cooling fan or something might not be working correctly. Maybe it's getting overheated as a result???

Laughing, Yes, you should be able to hear a fan! But the fan that most people hear on their machines is the main air intake fan. The fan on the CPU itself normally is silent or pretty quiet. Usually, any motherboard with an AMD chip in it has a temperature sensor for that chip. Part of the AMD socket setup. So, in your BIOS, there should be a "page" with temperature settings and the current CPU temperature should be showing there. Unfortunately, you probably must bug out of your operating system, and just boot up into your BIOS to see that temperature. AMD provides this temperature sensor because they are trying very hard to become the industry leader in reducing CPU temps, and also in reducing overall power consumption. Because your CPU is covered completely by the fan (or watercooling device), there is no other good way to access the CPU to monitor its temperature. Most motherboard manufacturers publish a Windows utility program to show this temperature within Windows. ASUS and MCI motherboards in particular. So, you might find such a utility program on your distribution disk(s) that came with your computer. Or, you might be able to open your case and identify the maker of your motherboard. If you can identify the motherboard, almost all the manufacturers post these little utility programs on their websites for free download. Some of us geeks go the extra mile and arrange to install temperature monitors within our cases. For example, I have a unit fitting within my hard disk drive bay that has four temperature probes on it that I've laid out into various areas of my case (including near my AMD CPU). The unit has a digital temp display on the front. (Well, it also provides extra USB connectors, and a full range of card readers.) If you have a spare hard disk drive slot, you can find these online at ThinkGeek or almost any online store that sells computer parts for us do-it-yourselfer's.

So I purchasred Poser6 (download version) Going about nutsssss trying to find out how to let 6 use 4's content. Been going through the pdf documents, but finding it hard to get what I need. Anybody know how to get Poser6 to use Poser4 characters?

Attached Link: http://www.drgeep.com/TUT/runtimes/Runtimes.htm

You just need to link the P4 Runtime into P6, see attached link for details.

iI you are using amd and an asus mobo make sure to turn off Cool'n'Quiet in the bios. The probelms with black screens sounds as if the video driver installed is wrong, somehow. IMHO it is best to install video card drivers from the maker of the card. Therefore, if I buy a nvidia asus card, go to the asus site and download their driver from asus, instead of going to the nvidia site and downloading it from them.

Well the PC has been working quite good now. Sadly however, I've gotten another problem. I want to use my Poser4 stuff by going through Poser6. (Poser4 won't work on this PC)  The problem is that it won't auto find the texures for any Poser4 characters and such. I could get over it, if I could easily find the location of the textures, but with all I have it's nearly impossible. I thought Poser5/6 found the textures on their own, or am I wrong???

Seems now that the PC is loading the poser figures, but no image is coming up before or after loading it. I hope I can get a handle on this soon.

Perhaps you're in the wrong forum? Check out the Poser forum for help on Poser. Or am I missing something? It's not clear to me what type of help you want nor what your problem is. Are you talking about Poser not loading the figure, or Vue not loading the figure?

Quote - Perhaps you're in the wrong forum? Check out the Poser forum for help on Poser. Or am I missing something? It's not clear to me what type of help you want nor what your problem is. Are you talking about Poser not loading the figure, or Vue not loading the figure?

Actually you're right about me posting this in the wrong forum. Sorry...