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Subject: tutorial for elder faces


menschtx ( ) posted Wed, 06 December 2006 at 9:33 AM · edited Fri, 15 November 2024 at 2:32 PM

I am looking for a tutorial on how to make elderly faces for an idea I have on Moses. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.


CaptainJack1 ( ) posted Wed, 06 December 2006 at 10:32 AM

I don't know of a tutorial but here's a couple of thoughts.

  1. An older face has more wrinkles, and quite a few models already have morphs available that do that.
  2. The skin texture will typically have small, dark patches, often called "age spots" or "liver spots". The skin will also typically not be clear in other ways, possibly including uneven tanning, scarring, freckles, and so on. Careful work in a paint program with your textures may improve the aged look.
  3. Cartilage continues to grow throughout the life of a person, so the nose and ears of an older person are usually larger than in youth. If your model has morph targets for these areas, you may improve your look with them.
  4. Everything sags with age, so the cheeks, under eyes, and forehead areas all droop a little bit compared to youth. Also, many people go through a weight gain in middle age and drop the weight in later years, creating extra skin around the under-chin and cheek areas. Magnets or morphs may help with this.
  5. Many older people adopt a bit of a squint in their eyes as a reaction to failing eyesight. Also, it is not uncommon for there to be some hazing or yellowing of the cornea.
  6. Individual hairs get thinner as a person ages, causing the hair to lay more flat and be a bit more lifeless, in addition to becoming gray. You may want to look for hair that does this, or take it into account when you paint your hair on after rendering.

Hope that's helpful. 😄


pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 06 December 2006 at 12:03 PM

That is good info, but it's just pretty hard to get any kind of subtle age onto V3 or any model I've seen so far.  The morphs to add age creases in the face tend to add only very gross, long creases (gross in the sense of big, not ugly) and almost no fine age lines.  Tendom has done some really  fine skinning work that is unique in that it dares to show a pretty woman that isn't 20 years old:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/browse.php?username=tendom

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Gareee ( ) posted Wed, 06 December 2006 at 4:07 PM

Best bet to add age appearance is a combo of morphs, and image maps. Texture and bump (or better yet displacement) can work wonders!

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TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Wed, 06 December 2006 at 5:41 PM

Have you guys checked out Dalinise's models here in the MP? She has both old women and a middleaged one. Looks GREAT IMO.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 06 December 2006 at 6:21 PM

Thanks, I'll go take a look at that myself.  :)

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