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Subject: Morphing Tool ownz :D


pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 4:57 AM · edited Tue, 19 November 2024 at 9:13 AM

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What an excellent P7 feature.  I know I'm not likely to use it to its fullest extent but finally you can easily add those subtle age lines.  Victoria 4 in general is better about this than V3 was but this little tool really fills in all the blanks imo.  Sooooo much easier than trying to do this with magnets or a separate modeling app.  Criticism welcome.

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MoxieGraphix ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 4:59 AM

Yes yes yes!  I posted something I'm working on in the other thread.  Going the other way from 'beautiful' but yes!


stormchaser ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:04 AM

She looks great pjz99, the subtle details made with this new tool is awesome. For me, portraits & creatures are going to get this tool on them.



pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:13 AM

A woman can have a little age and be beautiful 😄  (imo more beautiful because of the implied growth and life learning).  One gets tired of all the 20ish faces out there, I'm really going to love this feature.

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ziggie ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:20 AM

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Yup... the morfing tool is a great addition...

You can even make Ben look a lilttle more.... realistic...

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MoxieGraphix ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:21 AM

Scarily, that's almost an improvement on old Ben.


stormchaser ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:24 AM

**Lakisha (my avatar) is around 40. My challenge when I created her was to create the older woman. She was originally more fantasy-ish but since then I have changed her slightly, more age lines. I may add more detail to her now with the new morph tool.
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http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1322721

**



pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:24 AM · edited Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:28 AM

**Now that's a real man!!  :tt1:

**err, ... not you Stormchaser!!  :cursing:  Your renders are really beautiful.  For the black and white one, that little line at the inner fold of the eyelid, did you postwork that in or did you trick V3 into showing that?  The color one is also lovely but I bet you can add to it with a bit of morphing like you say, just having a little bit of crow's feet is a huge improvement to me.

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stormchaser ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:35 AM

Thanks pjz99.
I used alot of the eye lid morphs within V3 for that, I think for portraits it's important. I like to use the crows feet as well, I know people don't like them in real life but it's great for renders!!



pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:44 AM

You know, it occurs to me that you could use the morphing tool to pretty easily fix unpleasant creases in still images (pretty much all I use Poser for) right in Poser rather than postworking them out.

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ziggie ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:49 AM

Quote - You know, it occurs to me that you could use the morphing tool to pretty easily fix unpleasant creases in still images (pretty much all I use Poser for) right in Poser rather than postworking them out.

 

Exactly.... and to fix poke thru as well, and... if the mesh is dense enough... will be able to make impressions in a ground plane... seating... beds, etc., to match where the figures are standing... sitting... laying....

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stormchaser ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:53 AM

pjz99 - You're right, that could be a strong point.
I can now also see this tool being the best part of Poser 7 (for me anyway). I'm at the moment messing around creating a strange face with the tool, so many possibilities, I love it. I think this is the closest we've come yet to proper modelling within Poser without using the dials.



stormchaser ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 5:56 AM

Of course ziggie, if it's possible to create the crease in a chair it'd be perfect!



Gareee ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 9:32 AM

One of the ideas I had was that the morph tool woul be great for adding realistic looking wrinkles to clothing...

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.


ziggie ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 9:35 AM

The morph tool is great.. works on props as well as figures... results depend upon the mesh of course... denser meshes give better results...

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mylemonblue ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 9:48 AM · edited Wed, 13 December 2006 at 9:51 AM

This is truely cool. If you morph a characters arm would P7 mirror the morph on the other arm?

:woot:

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stormchaser ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 9:51 AM

Yes, there's a mirror function.



ziggie ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 9:53 AM

But... doesn't the mirror function just affect the other side of the limb you are morfing...?

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ziggie ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 10:02 AM

Quote - Nice. I thought it only worked on single symmetrical body parts like the head and torso groups. Great news! :biggrin: :biggrin:

 

Just tried it and it IS as you say.... only on symmetrical body parts...

Morfs made to one limb... don't mirror to the other... and they don't transfer when you do a Figure/symetry adjustment either...

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pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 10:06 AM

that's a good question, I mean to try that myself.

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ziggie ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 10:20 AM

Nice feature is... no matter how much you morf  an area of a figure... if you dont like it, you can go back later and paint with the restore brush and the figure's mesh will return to it's original shape..

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stormchaser ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 10:26 AM

I really like the smooth tool as well, gets rids of any sharp edges & blends everything together.



ziggie ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 10:29 AM

One thing it is veree nice for.... figures on sand or snow. Place a fairly densely meshed plane on the ground... place your figures and or objects on it... then go around pulling the sand/snow up around them as much as you want. Takes seconds where it would have taken hours with magnets....

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RAMWorks ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 10:53 AM
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Quote - I really like the smooth tool as well, gets rids of any sharp edges & blends everything together.

You mean like those horrid sharp lines in the shoulders of the G2 males??  Other than those shoulder cuts I think the G2 males are pretty nice so far (still waiting for my Poser 7 to arrive by mail). 

So the morphing tool, if you are working on the right shoulder you can't set the tool to automatically do the same on the left shoulder??  That's kinda bad.  In my opinion it should be set up to work that way if the end user-artist wants it too.  Probably a simple internal script would fix that.

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ziggie ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 10:55 AM

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Part of a pic I was/am working on.. was greatly improved by pulling the snow up here and there, rather than just pushing things into the snow ground layer...

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Marque ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 10:57 AM

Actually Gareee that's not a bad idea.


Marque ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 10:59 AM

Sorry to be so stupid but where is the morphing tool?  lol


ziggie ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 11:00 AM

The lil pointing finger/hand tool in your tools palette...

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stormchaser ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 11:02 AM · edited Wed, 13 December 2006 at 11:03 AM

****RAMWolff - yeah, it seems I was wrong, you can't mirror it to the other side, doesn't make sense does it?
**I'm waiting for my passport coupon before I can test out the G2 males.

ziggie - That is so cute, looks like it could be a Xmas card!
**



Marque ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 11:03 AM

Thanks. Just remembered the multiple undo, oh yes!!!


stormchaser ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 11:05 AM

I wish we could have multiple undo's in real life, LOL!



pjz99 ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 11:17 AM

Note the "Custom Morph" slider automatically added to your parameter dials window when you use the tool :)

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RAMWorks ( ) posted Wed, 13 December 2006 at 11:18 AM
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Hopefully they will add that in a SR at some point. No it doesn't make any sense to me either.  I'll have to see what I can see when I get mine installed! 

Sheesh this hobby is expensive!!

Ig, that's one cute little scene there.  The snow looks very nice indeed!!  😄

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