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Mystic Nights Christmas Giveaway

I got a late start, but put together some Christmas Freebies.
At least 1 item will be posted per day through Christmas Eve.
The first item has been posted - a Fir tree.

Forum membership required.

Thank you so much!  :)

Thank you.

Thank you, handy even beyond Christmas.

I hesitated a long time before I replied on this.
I want to make one thing clear : thank you for freebie and wanting us to share it.
Because I don't want you to discourage you to post new items in the future.
But I have some remarks on your tree: It hasn't  enough branches and needles, I don't know which modeller you used to make this tree, and I think it will be a hell of a lot work to make it by hand, but please be more critical to your own work: take a picture of your own or someone else tree, and compare it with your model.
I hope I wasn't too rude.

I like freebies. That being said, I think providing freebies to the community is an excellent way for someone to learn their craft, whether it's texturing or modeling.

In the end however, you-- the end-user, have a choice, even when it comes to an item for sale. If on viewing you don't like what you see, all you have to do is walk away...

If you really, really can't resist the unrequested critique, perhaps a private pm might be a better alternative than what amounts to public ingratitude.

I read somewhere "a model is not reality". Oh, right that's your signature...

(Sorry, I was trying so hard not to be sarcastic)

I have seen real fir trees that do look like that, they are not all thick and full.

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If you really, really can't resist the unrequested critique, perhaps a private pm might be a better alternative than what amounts to public ingratitude.

I don't think it's "public ingratitude" at all. I think a pm would be worse, because one can dash off a forum reply with less effort than making a pm, and a pm is more directed and personal - so to my mind the forum post is "lighter".

However, I agree with xantor, I've seen trees just as scrawny as this one. It looks good to me.

Thanks for the feedback. I intended this model to look as it does, because as some have already stated sparsely populated trees do exist in real life. I created this one in an older version of Arbaro. I reloaded it this morning and found a setting I think may increase the branches, but so far when I export the obj is empty.

Attached is an image of another tree I created. I can't remember which program I did this one in. The only problem - the mesh is 65 Mb. I loaded it into Poser this morning, setup the material zones and exported and the mesh went to 120 Mb. I'm going to look around and see if I can find a program or python script that will reduce a mesh file size.

@ Kalon: As I said in my reply; I like freebies too and it wasn't my intention to offend anyone, but in the first place I haven't PM anyone before,  I even don't know how to do that (really!) and second I think I gave my own opinion about the tree, perhaps I was a little patronizing, but that's my nature: I had my own design-office some years ago, and had to check the work of my employees and correct them when neccessary. I always try to do that in a friendly way, and if I see Mystic-nights last reply, I think he agrees with me.
I think we can have a long discussion about but I would rather do that in another thread. And considering my signature you're absolutely right: it's meant to be pure sarcastic!.

@Mystic-nights: If you wanted to look it that way it's allright with me, it will look great in a forest scene. But  I like my christmastree a little more populated and I was only hoping you could create a fuller tree. I like your other tree but I agree with you that 65Mb is a little too much. I never have used arbaro, I took a look on the web and think it's a little similar to a program I used to have some  years ago: treedesigner, I stopped using it because it had the same problem: huge object files. I can't find it on the web anymore, perhaps it's on one of my archive files.
I always wonder how programs like Vue or Bryce can create realistic trees, without overloading the memory. I think it has to be a sort of procedural algorithm.

bopperthijs --

To each his own. Every item offered is not going to suit everyone. If you don't like it, don't get it. But as Mystic-nights apparently has taken no offense, who am I to quibble.

Happy Holidays!

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I love that tree! It brought back a whole lot of wonderful childhood memories for me!

When I was a kid we were really dirt poor and the only trees that my Mom could afford to buy were the scraggly, lopsided ones that no one else wanted. So every year a few days before Christmas we went to the tree lot and looked for a poor pathetic looking tree that no one wanted and quite often they would give it to her for free, or for 50 cents (regular trees were usually about $5.00. A really great tree was $10.00)  Then we got home and let the tree thaw out and decorated so that Santa would know to stop at our house :)

I remember always wanting to have a nicer tree, but today if I ever put up a real tree, it would be a "Charlie Brown" tree in rememberance of my Mom :)

Sometimes you have to look beyond what you see.

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Sometimes you have to look beyond what you see.

I agree, I think I'm just spoiled.

Happy holidays to all of you!

I like it.  It's sort of a "Charlie Brown" tree.  I've got a lot of trees that are fuller, so it's nice to have one that's different.

We had mostly "Norfolk Pines" when I was growing up, and they look at lot like that.  Plenty of room for ornaments.  ;-)

  I got an email from one person that they never received an activation email. This could be due to Yahoo, Hotmail, etc. sending it to the spam folder or blocking it. There are several accounts not activated. If you signed up and never received an activation email just drop me a PM with the username you signed up with and I will activate it manually.

Here is a screenshot of all items I posted for the Christmas Giveaway.