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Subject: External runtimes


aniela ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 6:08 AM · edited Thu, 12 December 2024 at 5:16 PM

Hello there,

After long time away I am back, now with Poser 6.
I made a research on old threads and I couldn´t find nothing related to my question, so I am posting it right now.
I have all my poser stuff in several runtimes, classified by category (Victoria, The Girl, Michael, acessories, architecture,etc) and I added all them on Poser 6. Thats ok.
BUT, have something getting me very upset: each time I am working on some picture I have to "show" the path to Poser (figures, clothes, hair, textures, etc) and that take lot of time and my inspiration go out. Also, when I stop to back later on same work, I have to show paths again.
So, my question: have some way to go around this? Some setting I can do so Poser will know where are things?

thank you very much in advance,

aniela


gillbrooks ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 7:48 AM

Assuming it's the same as P7
Edit > General Preferences> Library Tab> File Search - set it to Deep

Gill

       


aniela ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 8:22 AM

Thank you very much for your reply, but I dont have this option on library tab..I only have: Double click behaviour and Thumbnail display.


Teyon ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 8:24 AM

It's not in the Library. It's in the Edit Menu. That's why Gill wrote it like that, it's the path you follow to find the option.


aniela ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 8:49 AM

Sorry, maybe I was not clear. I went to Edit>general preferences>library tab and I dont have file search inside, I only have those 2 options I pointed early: double-click behaviour (add to scene and replace existing) and thumbnail display (never collapse thumbnails and display text-only...). Dont have File search.


Lucifer_The_Dark ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 9:22 AM

Did you create the pz3 files in a different version of poser that's no longer installed?

Windows 7 64Bit
Poser Pro 2010 SR1


Teyon ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 9:28 AM

Actually, it's not your fault. We (Gill and I) are a bit blind. You're using Poser 6 and the option we were thinking of is available only in Poser 7. I'd have to second Lucifer's question, it may be the paths in some of the content is looking for runtimes or directories that may have been moved/deleted.


Acadia ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 9:34 AM · edited Mon, 08 January 2007 at 9:37 AM

I'm not sure why you have to point Poser to the path each time you open the .pz3 file.

Where are your external runtimes located? Are they on the same drive as your poser program?

What files is Poser looking for?  Are they the daz morph files for the figures? Or is it all kinds of files for all kinds of things?

If you have them on an external hard drive but don't have the hard drive turned on when you start up Poser, Poser can't read the external runtime locations so it will open without the runtimes showing up.

Another way Poser won't be able to locate the paths is if you removed the runtime from the library before closing the program. If you try to open a .pz3 file that has used items from a runtime that isn't in the library, poser will ask for the path because it's searched it's bank of runtimes and couldn't find the item.

Also, if you deleted a runtime or moved it to a different location.

I have over 40 external runtimes and other than the 2 examples I gave above, I haven't had a problem with Poser locating files.

One thing to note is that when you create external runtimes, you should look through your external runtime libraries and make a copy of the !DAZ folder and paste it to the same location in your main poser runtime.

Anyway, if that doesn't help, can you post back with some more information.

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Acadia ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 9:36 AM · edited Mon, 08 January 2007 at 9:36 AM

Quote - Actually, it's not your fault. We (Gill and I) are a bit blind. You're using Poser 6 and the option we were thinking of is available only in Poser 7.

Over 40?  :b_tonguewink:

I was looking at the replies from the two of you and thinking "wth?" LOL

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able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



aniela ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 9:54 AM

First at all, thank you very much to you all for your replies.

I upgraded my pc recently and then I had to re-install all my stuff. In this puter, I decided install Poser under drive D and I made a folder D:/Runtimes, where I have all my separated runtimes (!Acessories, !Cartoons, !Victoria, etc). I added all them on Poser, trougth add runtime option, on library.

I just started with Poser 6 (my old version was Poser 5). When I start to add stuff on scene, I am asked to find stuff on geometries subfolder. That bother me because always when I add something I have to say the path (I have windows window open asking to find files). When going to render, Poser ask me about textures too. At this time I dont have any inspiration any more to create.

I dont know if that will happen with pz3 files because I still dont have nothing done here, but that used to happens on Poser 5 (always asking where are files). I really felt so disgusted having to say paths for everything that I stop my pict, so I dontn have pz3 done.

 


gillbrooks ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 10:01 AM

I only used P6 about half a dozen times before going back to P5. On the times that I did use it though, I never had it ask me to locate any files on my external runtimes so I only guessed it was there. 

I uninstalled P6 so I can't look to find where it's located there - sorry :(

Gill

       


Acadia ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 10:03 AM

Just hang tight. 

I don't know how to fix your problem, but I know others will have a solution for you. I've seen others with similar problems after getting a new PC or changing hard drives.  I just don't recall what the solution is, but there is one.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



BAR-CODE ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 10:15 AM

Mmm .. maybe .. just maybe the file that stores your runtime info in has the READ ONLY flag on it..
Im not sure wich file it is but lets say: " in the poser general prefs. file "prefs.txt" or so
When that file when its being copy'd to other system or Hd or just because windows has a idea of doing that.. The "prefs.txt" can be READ ONLY ..so info stored into that file while working only last as long as your working in that sesion.. when you reload or restart etc etc the file has to be set in to the file again...

I hope you get what i try to say ;}  
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Indoda ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 10:15 AM

The only solution I can think of off the top of my head would be to buy CRPro or PoserOrganiser and have one of those programs run through all your files and make the references full paths. I keep all my content in my own peculiar way and this means it doesn't matter where things are as long I don't move textures and geometry from my Geometries and textures directory which then have subdirectories for p4 - p7 and 2005, 2006, 2007 for other content. Hope that makes sense. I recently upgraded and all I had to do was keep the same directories for those 2 big ones. I also use a standard Inject folder and categorise that etc.. Then I use Advanced Library from Dizzi to load content into P6 - P7 or D|S.

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Lucifer_The_Dark ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 10:24 AM

Indoda has the right solution I think, it sounds like the references have become broken in some way by your move, my personal favourite for fixing these problems is CRPro but I'm sure PoserOrganiser is just as capable of the job. Both are available in the store here, they cost money but you'll never regret it.

Windows 7 64Bit
Poser Pro 2010 SR1


Victoria_Lee ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 10:33 AM

Quote - First at all, thank you very much to you all for your replies.

I upgraded my pc recently and then I had to re-install all my stuff. In this puter, I decided install Poser under drive D and I made a folder D:/Runtimes, where I have all my separated runtimes (!Acessories, !Cartoons, !Victoria, etc). I added all them on Poser, trougth add runtime option, on library.

I just started with Poser 6 (my old version was Poser 5). When I start to add stuff on scene, I am asked to find stuff on geometries subfolder. That bother me because always when I add something I have to say the path (I have windows window open asking to find files). When going to render, Poser ask me about textures too. At this time I dont have any inspiration any more to create.

I dont know if that will happen with pz3 files because I still dont have nothing done here, but that used to happens on Poser 5 (always asking where are files). I really felt so disgusted having to say paths for everything that I stop my pict, so I dontn have pz3 done.

 

 

I see the problem.  You have your external runtimes all nested in a folder called "Runtimes" which is confusing your Poser 6.  Change the name of that folder to something else (maybe "Externals") and then add it to P6 using the Add Runtimes option.

P6 already has a folder named "Runtime" and it's assuming that all of your stuff is in the Native Runtimes folder, not an external.  You can't name an external anything that contains the word "Runtime" or P6 will get confused.

Hugz from Phoenix, USA

Victoria

Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.


markschum ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 10:36 AM

go to the ..runtimeprefs folder and open libraryprefs.xml file with wordpad.

the file should look like this :

<?xml version="1.0"?>     ...etc

there is a content folder line for every runtime you have defined.

check that the entry is correct

<ContentFolder folder="C:RuntimeLibraries"  index="2" >

this entry was for a test runtime and you can see that it specifies the drive. If  I had copied Poser to drive D that runtime would no longer work .

Dont change anything put the folder path name


masha ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 7:06 PM

Hey there :)

Been keeping track of all these answeres as I too have the same probs with libraries on a new hdd.
@ markschum
 I for one do not have  a  'runtimeprefs folder and open libraryprefs.xml file' - anywhere in my P7 folder so maybe that's the prob. I do have a libraries.xml file in the ui folder and that's all.

@ **Victoria_Lee
My external runtimes are in a folder called Dummy Dirs so that doesn't appear to be the problem.

Any further insights would come in handy. Thanks!
**



masha ( ) posted Mon, 08 January 2007 at 7:17 PM

To extend on my above post, I'm using Poser 7

Quote Indoda: "I keep all my content in my own peculiar way and this means it doesn't matter where things are as long I don't move textures and geometry from my Geometries and textures directory which then have subdirectories for p4 - p7 and 2005, 2006, 2007 for other content."

The way I read it you mean Geom & Textures directory in the Poser 7 folder?  [Or whichever Poser version is the one we're using.

I get asked to find virtually every texture path for external folders and sometimes the geoms.



Dizzi ( ) posted Tue, 09 January 2007 at 3:16 AM

The readme tells about the new location of the library_prefs.xml...



Lucifer_The_Dark ( ) posted Tue, 09 January 2007 at 5:45 AM

I hear library_prefs.xml for Poser7 is hidden somewhere in your documents folder, I'm sure it's been mentioned in another thread around here.

Windows 7 64Bit
Poser Pro 2010 SR1


Rorschach ( ) posted Tue, 09 January 2007 at 6:11 AM

I've got a similar problem. The weird thing is P7 has no trouble finding the obj files, nor any texture that is displayed in preview mode. But somehow it can't find the non visible ones (bump, displacement, anyone on a cartoon or outline displayed element...)


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