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Subject: Clothing converters - Which one the most bang for the buck?


jjroland ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2007 at 3:14 PM · edited Fri, 10 January 2025 at 5:03 AM

There are currently at least 2 different threads going regarding this and I didn't want to post in both.

I seem to recall seeing something on renderosity recently that was in the 12$ range, but I can't remember which it was.

After having spent roughly 2k in the last two months, I'm not inclined to purchase yet another thing that only partially works, unless its very cheap 20$ or less.  If its a full fledged "I do everything you want and you don't have to buy anything else" program, than sure.

Can you guys please list the ones you've had experience with, your thoughts on features, what they can and can not do and maybe even a price range for it (if you recall)?

Don't limit to things strictly considered "converters" either.  I understand that PhilC has some type of clothes program - so any thoughts on programs like that; us noobs will appreciate as well I'm sure.

It would help a ton!

Thanks.


I am:  aka Velocity3d 


BAR-CODE ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2007 at 3:25 PM · edited Mon, 22 January 2007 at 3:27 PM

When you want to convert V3 to aiko or V4 ! with  or M3 to hiro or others
Wardobe Wizzard RULES ...IMHO  its about 50$ orso .. but it can do the most  characters of them all.
And for that 50 buck you get for a MILLION on aftersales and feedback help and suport from the maker on his site or here or at CP ... PhilC has the best aftersale on this planet !
And no did not get anything to say this...
I was going crazy all day about conforming clothes and got spikes on my model etc etc a mess...
But after viewing a Video Tut by PhilC .. i know Now how to, and did kill all the problems in 15 minutes ...PhilC rocks ..and no piece of paper is gonna stop that ;}

Go the PhilC's site and check out the program etc etc ....

Daz clothes converter wrok as far as i know ONLY with DAZ figures ... Not Sydney or other Poser native figures .... "when thats not true please say so" 

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Victoria_Lee ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2007 at 3:27 PM

I have purchased both the Clothes Converter at DAZ and PhilC's Wardrobe Wizard and, IMHO, the Wardrobe Wizard is the better of the two.

While it's true that nothing works 100% I find that WW will accomplish everything I need to do and allows me to convert clothing from one figure to another inside Poser rather than having to convert outside of Poser and hope it will work.

I find the support for WW is outstanding, as well.  PhilC is a frequent poster here and the forums on his site will answer virtually any question you have.  When V4 came out it was only a short time before an update was available.  The same for when P7 came out.

The price for the full version of WW is $49.95.  I know that's a bit more than you were mentioning but it's well worth the price.  The plug-in for V4 is $4.95, again well worth it since that expands compatibility to all of the DAZ figures.  If you go to the Wardrobe Wizard page you can see all of the figures WW supports.  The update information is found here.

For my money, WW gives more "bang for the buck" than any of the other converters out there.

Hugz from Phoenix, USA

Victoria

Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.


jjroland ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2007 at 4:40 PM

Thanks alot for the advice - my birthday is this saturday and I think I have convinced my husband to get it for me = )


I am:  aka Velocity3d 


JOELGLAINE ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2007 at 5:39 PM

Wardrobe Wizard Rules, others' converters drools.

Look: www.philc.net/WardrobeWizard.htm

The demo is NOT time limited!  It converts P4 people to P5 people and vice versa.  Try it out.  See if you like it.  You have questions ask here: www.philc.net/forum/viewforum.php

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RAMWorks ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2007 at 6:17 PM · edited Mon, 22 January 2007 at 6:23 PM

Problem with all these fine tools is that they do NOT convert very well from V3 to V4 as advertised.  or there is so much after work to be done might as well model your own outfit!   I wanted so much to get the MFD from DAZ from V3 to V4 and I have followed the instructions to the letter. 

While WW works better than CC for converting the outfits from V3 to V4 there is all this mess with getting the joints and skeleton lined up properly.  I took the converted gown into the Setup Room (Poser 7) and you should have seen how far off the mark it was.  V4's skeleton is perfectly situated there in it's zeroed position and the dress... well the dress is above the skeleton, by it's entire length!  

So imagine the dress, a long dress at that, completely floating above the skeleton and on top of that it's rotated forward by about 30 degrees.  I thought I'd gotten it all sorted out and went back to the Pose Room and found that the dress no longer fit the figure. 

OK, so then I needed to get out the Joint Editor.... what a mess. I haven't the first clue what I'm doing with that thing.  I gave up and closed out of Poser without saving the damned thing.  What a mess. 

I'll just hope that DAZ, in their infinite wisdom, decides that V4 is worthy of the MFD so I can make use of all those wonderful textures and transmaps that I love so much.  I don't use V3, can't stand her, butt ugly and all that so saying to go and use her in order to use the dress is a dead horse beaten thrice or more. 

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xantor ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2007 at 8:00 PM

Wardrobe wizard can convert to morphed versions of the figure, too.


jjroland ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2007 at 9:41 PM

 ""I don't use V3, can't stand her, butt ugly and all that so saying to go and use her in order to use the dress is a dead horse beaten thrice or more. ""

Agreed.

Ramwolf,

So out of curiousity, did you post your issues on the forum there for WW?  If so the responses were helpful or no?
I really only want to convert M3 clothing atm - but I'm sure I will get to wanting those harem clothes on V4 eventually = )


I am:  aka Velocity3d 


RAMWorks ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2007 at 9:55 PM

You mean at Phil's WW forums??  No, I didn't bother.  The conversion is fine, in actuality it's all the other work that you have to do in order to make it all work.  Please keep in mind the one and only outfit I wanted converted was the MFD, I love that dress.  It's so useful, versatile and pretty with all the nice texture and transparencies that have been done for it.  So I have NOT bothered trying any other conversions to V4 from V3.  Pants, tops and other things might just convert perfectly but I'm not interested in any of that. 

You want to convert M3 clothing to V4?  Don't know about that either. 

All the best

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jjroland ( ) posted Mon, 22 January 2007 at 11:51 PM

No lol, personally I wanted to convert James jeans for M3- see I only need one simple outfit at this point and I didn't want to purchase a 30$ pack for that.


I am:  aka Velocity3d 


Lucifer_The_Dark ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 3:52 AM

I'd like to be able to convert clothes to the Daz Troll personally & afaik neither does that right now or maybe ever. :(

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Victoria_Lee ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 6:14 AM

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> Quote - No lol, personally I wanted to convert James jeans for M3- see I only need one simple outfit at this point and I didn't want to purchase a 30$ pack for that.

 

Have you tried the Real Jeans for M3 by Billyt over at DAZ?

Hugz from Phoenix, USA

Victoria

Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.


xantor ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 9:40 AM

Lucifer_The_Dark, quite a few people have requested the daz troll ww files to be made and files for other figures but making the data files must take quite a long time and PhilC can only do so many.


Lucifer_The_Dark ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 9:45 AM

Quote - Lucifer_The_Dark, quite a few people have requested the daz troll ww files to be made and files for other figures but making the data files must take quite a long time and PhilC can only do so many.

I know & he's probably getting a little sick of hearing people complain about lack of support for whichever character is their particular favourite. :D no thread about WW would be complete without some mention of the Troll though, it's become a tradition ;)

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JOELGLAINE ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 10:24 AM

Quote - > Quote - Lucifer_The_Dark, quite a few people have requested the daz troll ww files to be made and files for other figures but making the data files must take quite a long time and PhilC can only do so many.

I know & he's probably getting a little sick of hearing people complain about lack of support for whichever character is their particular favourite. :D no thread about WW would be complete without some mention of the Troll though, it's become a tradition ;)

 

When the troll is finally clothed with WW support and the first post where someone asks, "WHO is that?" The first responder will say, "ALAN ALDA!"

It's traditional. :lol:

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jjroland ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 10:42 AM

""Have you tried the Real Jeans for M3 by Billyt over at DAZ?""

No I haven't because I am completely unable to use Daz site.  First it takes an ungodly amount of time to load each page - the search even for M3 shows up pages of v3-v4 items, then I can't view any pictures once I do if I do get to the page I'm looking for.  (They show up as little red Xs).  I've pretty much given up on daz without a direct link to what I want.


I am:  aka Velocity3d 


nickedshield ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 10:45 AM

@RAMWolff, I'm not sure what problems you encountered with the MFD but it does convert to V4. The only hitch I see is V4's Tippy-Toes. I don't know what version of Poser you are using, I did it using Propack. If you want PM me and I'll send you my .dat file.

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.


RAMWorks ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 1:12 PM

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I have the dat file already.  I converted using Poser 7.  Here is the message I got, as I just retried, same thing:

Copied joints from Victoria4 to V3FntsyDress
Clothing geometry modified, and nothing else. Note that it won't
conform until you adjust the skeleton and joint parameters!

This time the skeleton conformed just fine but the bottom of the skirt is a mess still.  It's got an edge going down the center and an indentation going down the back and the bottom of the skirt is kinda crinkly looking!!

If you know what to do and if you can type it out in an easily understandable way I'll give it another try!

Thanks much

Richard 😄

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nickedshield ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 2:42 PM

It looks like you used the advanced unwelded function, you will get that message upon completion. Now the fun part starts, take the dress in the Setup Room and don't do a thing then exit. Now you will have to toggle the Spherical Zones for each body part using the Joint Parameter pallet. P6 was slow to switch, don't know how fast P7 is going to be. After you have done all of the parts now conform. More fun time. Select the Body of the dress and use the Auto Fit 2 or 3 times. Now select the Hip and use the Smooth By Group, all. I think it took me 6-10 smoothes to get rid of most of the ridge in front and the dimple in the back. You will have to use the Inflate by group to get rid of the poke through that will develop at the waist and buttocks in the rear. The hem is going to require using the smooth more, by edge. I rotated the scence so I could watch the results, used x,y and z It looks like V4's feet really much that area up. Hope this helps.

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.


RAMWorks ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 3:00 PM

"Toggle the Spherical Zones" not sure what that means..... how do I do that?   I don't see any sort of toggle switch in the dialog. 

I gotta go to work now.... I'll be back in a few hours....

Thanks again for you assistance

Richard 😄

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nickedshield ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 3:18 PM

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Toggle: that means to change the check mark. If it is checked, click to uncheck then click to check it agai. If it is unchecked, click to check them click to uncheck. This is the most tedious part of the conversion process. No, there is no other way of doing it automatically. The pic happens to show the abdomen, I would have to uncheck the Use Sperical Zone and recheck it. Note, there are usually three joints that have to be toggled per body part.

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.


Victoria_Lee ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 7:38 PM

Attached Link: http://www.philc.net/WW_tutorial1.htm

RAMWolff, here's the link to this tutorial

Hugz from Phoenix, USA

Victoria

Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.


RAMWorks ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 10:07 PM

Hi **nickedshield,

** Home from work just now.  I can't find the "Joint Parameters" nor any dialog that has "Use Spherical Falloff Zones"

Under the Window drop down menu there is a "Joint Editor" with NO checkboxes but plenty of boxes to type in numbers.  So now I'm more confused.  I'm not looking in the correct area obviously and I'm sorry I'm so ignorant but I'm a Poser newbie even though I've owned Poser 4 - 7.  I prefer DAZ Studio and only have Poser for situations like this....

ummm well....

yea,

like this! :blink:

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nickedshield ( ) posted Tue, 23 January 2007 at 11:18 PM

My bad termenolgy, What you need to open is the Joint Editor Pallet, located at : Command Bar, Window. click on it then scroll down to the Joint Editor. Then you should see something similar to the pic I showed.

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.


RAMWorks ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 1:00 AM

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Joint Editor....

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nickedshield ( ) posted Wed, 24 January 2007 at 9:19 AM

Now that you have it open you need to select a body part. Then click on the Down arrow to the left of the word Center to expand the list. Click on the first to select it and the check boxes should be visible. If there isn't a check box for a particular part you can ignore it and go to the next. I will repeat myself, you need to do this for all body parts.

I must remember to remember what it was I had to remember.


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