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Subject: TOS WORK AROUND? VIEW PRIVATE GALLERY
it might work. folks have proven time and again they'll pay extra to see porno. oops, sorry for the freudian slip, I meant to say "artistic nudity". :lol: there may be various accounting headaches associated with it, in regard to credit cards or paypal or something, and their policies in regard to that, but probably nothing they can't handle.
What kills me is that someone is suggesting that we pay to be allowed to give valuable, revenue-generating content to this site. Not trying to pick on you Cruzin, just that idea is really backwards. Freely-added gallery content makes this site tons of money.
Life would certainly be strange if your artistic expression relied in any way shape or form on how you cropped your thumbnails :).
Some of my images are artistic nudes, and I have no problem with the policy. In fact, I had already taken it upon myself to creatively crop the thumbnails of my nude images, prior to the policy being enforced.
I sound like a completely brown-nose :) but this is just the way I do things. Guess I’m old fashioned.
If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards...checkmate!
Yeah, well, I feel the same way, but there are people here to really and honestly feel that being subject to taking the nudity out of their thumbnail previews is not only "stupid" but somehow steps on their artistic integrity in that it deprives them from presenting their artwork to the world in the manner which they consider acceptible to them (as an uncropped thumbnail).
I can understand that such is their world view, and I feel for them, although I disagree with them. And, I'm just glad that I don't happen to feel as passionately about the issue as they do, because (as noted) life would really suck otherwise.
Could be worse, could be raining.
Maybe I miss the point, but why would anyone spend 20$ a month for a private gallery here to sell other peoples stuff when for less they could host thier own site and sell thier own stuff. I can't fathom paying to see peoples stuff on a computer either personally. If Im going to pay - Ill pay enough to have a print on my wall.
pjz that means you ; )
I am: aka Velocity3d
I got the point, if people are so hot and bothered about the content of their "art" and they feel that Renderosity is stripping their freedom of expression for them "Freedom isn't free" neither is "artistic freedom".
I read this first and then actually asked Cruzin what he was smoking (I know him in the real world), he explained to me fully it actually makes sense. How many people pay 5 bucks to load 3 images daily...more than a few do?
How many people try to find an artist's work they enjoy on other sites such as Renderotica? More than a few, I know I do (by the way there is some really really good stuff over there in technical ability).
So why not have one place where they can go to?
They want to post soft core porn...or straight porn here? Well go ahead, but you'll have to pay to do it.
Than anyone who get's upset about artistic freedom can either pay up or shut up.
I thought 20 dollars was a little much but since private gallery stats won't effect normal gallery stats it'll be like a separate account with the same username. So there would be admin problems to tackle but still I think 20 bucks is a little steep.
Everyone balked at the username change thing, but lots of people jumped on that ship...even though there weren't many complaints.
What disturbs me and was the main reason I started to reply to this, is that instead of booing the site, someone made a suggestion that could please all parties.
You don't need nudity in your gallery? GOOD FOR YOU, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE
You crop your thumbs? WELL GOOD FOR YOU, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE
What I'm tired of is that your choices and moans effecting the majority who don't mind, that's why I left the site in 2005 and why even though I'm sharing an account with my husband now, I won't post anything here. I don't use nudity but the site of breast in a thumb never made me shake and quiver under the bed, if they make you do that, I guess you don't dress in front of a mirror or look straight ahead when taking a shower.
So, someone makes a suggestion not to detract from the site but to enhance it for the artist and at the same time generate revenue for the site...seems like having your cake and eating it too.
It wasn't the issue of thumbnails that sparked the idea it was someone who likes the site and like me are tired of seeing artist leave because of small minded people (on both sides of the fence)or for the sake of the dollar.
Something I've noticed about Renderosity, people complain, they cry, they stomp their feet , each time someone makes a suggestion, this is what they get. I faithfullly enjoy some of the Artist here but will not support this site with my money.
Aikofan...relax. Opinions are opinions (this is weird me telling you to calm down) LOL. Well I think she said it all for me....
Lucifer...took me a bit to understand what you meant but some of us don't have web space provided and before you suggest switching providers we can't it's a monoply here in Okinawa if you live on base, service sucks, my "high speed cable" internet feels like my slow butt dial up of years past...1998 and that's on a good day.
I think starting your own webpage is perfect especially with the linkshare incentive but ...does the TOS extend to that? Hmmmm
Sorry had to nip out for a while or I'd have answered sooner :D I'm not suggesting that anyone should change ISP, I know how much of a pain it is to do, I've gone through 5 in my time & have no desire to change again. There are free hosting companies all over the place where we could store everything BUT I have a nasty feeling the TOS does extend to & is probably stricter where the linkshare thing is concerned.
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Linkshare sounds like a clever candy wrapper around getting people to have large, prominent banners that link back to rendo - something that you are typically paid for everywhere else.
The Linkshare "qualification rules"
*Qualifying sites are those that are related to digital art.
We will not approve any sites that are money making schemes, click brokering, exclusively link exchanges, sites that are under construction, pornographic sites or any sites with a primary focus on images of rape, torture, sexual acts, or physical arousal. When you submit your link, it will go into pending until the legitimacy of the site and compliance with the Upload Agreement can be verified. Once the site is approved, and the LinkShare code confirmed as active on your site, the Renderosity Gift Certificate will be awarded and you will be notified.
"Physical arousal" is very worrisomely vague, as is "sexual acts" and "pornographic". I'm guessing "You know what we mean!" is the prepared response to any complaint about that.
Considering all you get is a) traffic that you may or may not ever see or even want, and b) a one-time (limited time only!) $5 coupon, Rendo makes out like bandits on it. But hey, there's no purchase necessary!
And the linkshare program appears to automatically draw from the gallery, which is fairly likely the real reason for the thumbnail rules change, seems to me.
I still like my "view members private gallery"...mind you, I like to hint without showing but sometimes i do show, when I do it's not here, but what sucks for me is that sometimes sex is part of the story....when you think about your life, you know what sex is a part of it...especially if you're male in your 20 somethings. Not that I can't tell a story without sex...did that views sucked but the comments were great...it was a kiddy story only two parts of it are up in my gallery so don't bother looking for it) but when I combine sexy, and hint at sex...whoa the views and the comments go up. I just really want more space to write my text in....or post without fear of something being taken down, I don't claim to be an artist in any shape or form.
I use poser as a tool to tell a story...unfortunately the story has to be chopped to bits because of limited text space and it's the job of the render to either fill in those spots I can't explain fully because of those limitations....I think I went off topic...yup I did.
View Private gallery in any shape or form...would be good for the artist and the site, do I want to see full blown porn...heck no, but it would be nice to have the option. I too wander through renderotica from time to time and you can see so much skill there amongst so much ...ahem...stuff, but viewing the private gallery is one of those, hey if you're offended you should n't have asked to see.
btw Freedom isn't Free...love the way you used that Aikofan.
oh and like Aikofan stated the mods and Admins are often quick to jump on something that's silly or stupid but anything that is constrructive they stay mum about. Someone in this thread brought up the thumbnail policy...when this isn't about the thumbnail policy, but I guess that's easier to dumb down and dismiss...instead of, I don't know...let's think about what I'm saying instead of jumping to conclusions...if I didn't like the site I wouldn't make a suggestion or offer something CONSTRUCTIVE., shoot if I didn't like the site I would probably try to detract from the original idea by changing the focus to something like...I don't know the thumbnail policy or people whining when the thread had nothing to do with either or....yeah probably like...oh those guys have been here already haven't they?
Someone saying " hey I don't like the idea because..." valid and that point I tend to agree with but some of the others....well the above paragraph tells you what I think.
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What disturbs me and was the main reason I started to reply to this, is that instead of booing the site, someone made a suggestion that could please all parties.You don't need nudity in your gallery? GOOD FOR YOU, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE
You crop your thumbs? WELL GOOD FOR YOU, THAT'S YOUR CHOICE
What I'm tired of is that your choices and moans effecting the majority who don't mind, that's why I left the site in 2005 and why even though I'm sharing an account with my husband now, I won't post anything here. I don't use nudity but the site of breast in a thumb never made me shake and quiver under the bed, if they make you do that, I guess you don't dress in front of a mirror or look straight ahead when taking a shower.
So, someone makes a suggestion not to detract from the site but to enhance it for the artist and at the same time generate revenue for the site...seems like having your cake and eating it too.
It wasn't the issue of thumbnails that sparked the idea it was someone who likes the site and like me are tired of seeing artist leave because of small minded people (on both sides of the fence)or for the sake of the dollar.
Something I've noticed about Renderosity, people complain, they cry, they stomp their feet , each time someone makes a suggestion, this is what they get. I faithfullly enjoy some of the Artist here but will not support this site with my money.
Eh....... nudity doesn't bother me, overexposure does. I've said it before, its the "going downmarket" of everything "poser related" that starts to burn me up.
Bondware can do what it wants, frankly. I guess I dont mind or care so much, nor get my knickers in a twist, because I went and did what artists should do in the first place. Buy their own server space that accepts vast and diverse kinds of art on it, and make their own galleries. That way no one can tell them what to do with it.
I wasn't trying to insult or attack cruzin in any way. If my comment came across that way, I apolgize.
I was just pointing out that there is a site that allows adult content galleries and it is free. Renderotica is a very nice community and their TOS is much more liberal that Rendo's because you have to be over 18 to join and access the galleries.
This is a blanket response intended to cover the entire “nudity vs. censorship” issue and is not directed at any one person. This is also the last time I will be posting about this issue that should have died long ago. It’s so depressing to see what little knowledge people have concerning the differences between constitutional rights and business law. Though this post might not seem to respond directly to this thread, I believe this thread, which relates to a “pay-per-view workaround” so as to permit a more accepting attitude toward adult content is simply just another “Renderosity =Censorship” thread or will, most likely turn into one. Therefore, the following anticipatory statements DO directly apply.
Just upload to Renderotica. This place IS a business, ya know? It belongs to Bondware. It's not “a site for the artists, by the artists". You get free space for a single upload per day. Just be glad there is a place where you can post your work. BTW there is quite a lot of garbage "nudity" that passes under the radar just because of the word ART. That whole "one mans Picasso is another’s Leroy Neiman" doesn't play well when you're looking at an adolescent depiction of sex and nudity, like the sort of thing that might be scribbled on a freshman’s notebook. If you transplant thumbs to your feet, that still won't make you an ape therefore, if you create a picture of naked females that doesn’t automatically make it art.
And before anyone says "who are you to judge what is or isn't art" I say that I am an artist and a viewer of art, thus giving me the right to judge. The simple fact that you upload a picture to this site, of which I am a member, translates to you giving me the right to judge your work and when I peruse the pinup galleries I can safely say that there is a good amount of juvenile garbage there. Does that give me the right to call for it to be removed? No. I’m not the owner. BUT, if the Bondware people are sick of it... you know, the people who own this site, then they have all the right and authority to judge what is garbage, what isn't garbage and remove accordingly, any and all offending works. Your picture, their site, case closed (you’d think).
I don’t work here but you don’t have to in order to understand the simple fact that Renderosity is NOT the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and this site reserves the right to exercise any and all rules and ordinances allowed by law to effectively deliver a web based product of a particular content and quality expected by its owners as pursuant to their wishes. You don’t have the right to post whatever you want here as if R’osity is obligated to adhere to your every whim. If you think you have such an absolute right to do so then run down to the local Museum and start taping up gonzo porn to their walls, and we’ll see how far your censorship argument makes it with the local police department.
The owners have a right, under law to regulate the content here whether it is the entire picture or its corresponding thumbnail image. This is the wish of the owners and the staff. Since that authority doesn't translate to you, just post to Renderotica and quit whining. You’re NOT going to get your way. As far as the private gallery issue, why should they do so when Renderotica is free and just a click away?
No wine was served, so I didn't need the cheese.
Other than that, I agree.
There are too many people who do pitch a fit and moan, and I was responding to those who treated this thread as such, it wasn't. It was a suggestion, a whine is "this sucks, what about my 1st admendment rights" that's whining because they forget about the rights of the owners. But someone who says "this sucks could we possible consider ......" and then gives a proposed solution is someone who is making a valid point.
Cruzin never said it sucked, he just offered a possible solution to a problem, he did it because he likes the site.
I don't like to post nudes, not my thing, my husband on the other hand...but each time he does I delete it before he gets to work because our account was created for "us".
Still a great reply to the future whiners...but still misdirected, it's like giving a speech on racial equality at a woman's right to choice rally. IMO
The thing is, aikofan12, cruzin's suggestion already (sort of) exists and it's apparently called Renderotica.
So, rather than discuss an alternative that likely won't exist (as a part of Renderosity), why not suggest that people use the alternative that does??
I didn't get the impression that Doran's post was in any way directed at cruzin ... in fact, as she mentioned, it was a "blanket" post that really dealt with a lot more than just this single post. It was more for the future whiners (as you noted -- it's a great post in that respect).
A bloody fantastic post actually. It made my day .... a day that sucked on sooo many levels (Darfur, Darfur ..... clean the dog poop off the jeans, order a new power supply for the computer, put locks on the pantry doors, troubleshoot the stupid iPod ... Darfur, Darfur)
Could be worse, could be raining.
Oh, I understood the point and liked Doran's reply, but remember when Renderotica was part of Renderosity...it was . Like I said I've been on this site since 99, kept re inventing myself as the TOS changed, stormed out the door and said "I hate Renderosity now" then came back a year later with a new ID (lost password and new email acccounts). The last time I left is when the site went into the Aiko nudes are child porn overload and artist were being banned left and right, I left and swore I wouldn't come back.
Then my husband met someone who frequents the site and to look at his stuff we both joined under the current username, so here I am again. LOL
but back to the point I know it wasn't directed at Cruzin but as great as the reply was I still think it was the wrong place to post it and anticipation of...it's a detractor.
I ended up catching Cruzin on his cellphone and finding out he could care either way, ti was just a suggestion. Like many artist here, he doesn't like splitting galleries or having to direct others to be exposed to Renderotica just so they can keep up with the tales he's currently weaving.
Those with the webspace suggestions...that sounds great but like Cruzin said we are stuck with one lousy provider here...and paying for webspace...I'm a military dependent and my husband makes enough but not nearly enough to do that, there are cheap alternatives and free ones, but Rendo is already set up. Now Cruzin since he's more than a few ranks over my husband could probably afford to go that route but the set up would take hours from him and his family.
I know when my husband has to work with him on occasion, he'll leave at 5 in the morning and come back around 8 PM...so I know time is always a factor.
I think people would support the idea, and I think Renderosity would make some money. win/win.
Ok. I'm done. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Well, you didn't offend me ...
I never went over to look at Renderotica, and I doubt I ever will. I'm just not all that into erotic art, although I do likea lot of the Sci Fi action semi-nude figures. But, I don't know if they qualify or not.
Man, I am so tired. I think I'm going to knock off and hit the hay. It was just more "day" than anyone should ever have to deal with.
Say, "hi" to cruzin when next you talk to him ... my extended family was heavily military, so I wish you all the best. It's not an easy life and they don't pay a quarter of what they should.
Could be worse, could be raining.
1)"Than anyone who get's upset about artistic freedom can either pay up or shut up."
2)"I don't like to post nudes, not my thing, my husband on the other hand...but each time he does I delete it before he gets to work because our account was created for "us"."
So...Are your saying is that your Husband has neither the choice to "Pay Up" nor "Shut Up"?.... He's Just "Censored" By "You"...no matter what?
Tom
“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”
LOL. Tom if you knew the two...both hot headed and stubborn but both very sweet and caring people if you can say that about a man, he has his own account ar 'rotica but the idea of their "shared gallery" here was supposed to stuff they work on together but when it comes to us. We like big pairs of IQs.
And ricky love your gallery, it's amazing so the thanks goes to you for posting.
I think I know way too many people in "real life" from this site...not a bad thing but I like my E life personae and my real life to be seperate plus I get less suggestions on where I should take my story next.
Everyone have a great day, for me it's late night Friday. Peace
"LOL. Tom if you knew the two...both hot headed and stubborn but both very sweet and caring people"
I'm sure they are...I was just trying to interject a bit of humor...No malice intended.
BTW...Personal websites are actually pretty reasonably priced these days. (Not ISP Supplied)
I pay like $9.99 per month for mine and something like $20.00 a year for the domain name.
And there are probably some even less expensive than that if one was to really research it.
So mine cost's me less that $150.00 USD per year...If you split that up between two people...it would be less than $75.00 per year...(or 5 bucks a month for hosting...and 10 bucks a year for the domain) for each person.
Hell..I spend more on coffee per year that I pay for my site.
Tom
“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”
Incidentally, I am dirt poor (trust me you have no idea) and I pay for a webspace, 70 whole dollars a year. Its my christmas present to pay the fee every year to myself. This is not a nyaa nyaa nyaa lol or anything like that, hardly. Only to say, it can be done. That money includes the domain name, and there are no monthly fees.
Also with premade free templates all over the place, websites take minutes to make, and minutes a month to maintain, and uploads are instant. Trust me , if an idiot like myself who has issues figuring out the OBJaction mover can make templated webpages between raising two kids and running my own company, I think anyone can do it. Believe it or not, netscape communicators old version 4.8 had (and you can still get it) free, composer, which can have you make and load a website in seconds flat.
As for having to have stuff in two different places, I realize that's not convenient, but the Rolling stones said it best "You can't always get what you want". Sucks I know. Again yet another reason to have your own site.
Another good option is to find other's like yourself, who'd like a site and split the cost, makes it way cheap and most have plenty of room to accomodate more than one. Thats what I did at first, split the yearly 70 dollars with a friend, until i just decided to take it over when they decided they wanted their own.
I think it's rather amusing that this thread contains lots of whining and complaining about people whining and complaining.
cruzin has an interesting idea, up to the point where he suggests Renderosity should charge for it, especially 20 bucks a month. I see a couple problems with it though.
Quote - Now imagine you're going through the galleries you find an artist you like and in the same place where it currently has add image, add artist, it has "view members private gallery"
you click that and it sends a request to that member via IM asking for permision to view their private gallery.
A warning pops up such as : Adult related images and if the member is a minor it says unable to view because minor or something similar.Now once that member goes to his inbox he has "cruzin has requested to view your private gallery will you alllow, a drop down that says allow or do not allow is there and that member chooses to let you or not let you.
It's very easy for someone to lie about their age and Renderosity does not do any form of age check. There would be some liability associated with this that could backfire pretty heavily on someone that allows a minor access to their private gallery.
Quote - The kicker: it will cost around 20 bucks per month for that user, another option in it will be so that a member can "click a button" and choose to support this gallery, clicking this allows the person looking to give....let's say 5 bucks to keep that gallery open. Meaning if an artist has a strong enough following, that he or she won't even have to pay the 20 bucks to keep their private gallery open. The patron can choose to have their 5 bucks go to "keep gallery open" "gift certificate" or "artist choice"
This would be another accounting nightmare for Renderosity. I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but it's not a simple task. In addition, it's doubtful that there are many "artists" here that people would be willing to spend 5 bucks to see their "private" gallery. I'm not so sure there would be many people that would be willing to spend $20 bucks a month to establish a private gallery here. I'm not sure many would be willing to even spend $1.00 a month. Most could probably live with the TOS (even those that despise it) and those that want to post porn can go do it over at Renderotica. I don't really understand why anyone would want to pay to allow others to see their art anyway, the concept doesn't "grok"
By the way, many people don't know that Renderotica was the "dark side" of Renderosity at one time. Yes that's right, Renderotica was a part of Renderosity. It was the "other side of the tracks" where people could post their porn. It's connection with the site was broken a long time ago and a TOS was created to prevent those types of images from being posted here. That makes me think Renderosity wouldn't be so keen to have "private" galleries with a less restrictive TOS anyway.
The idea of people acting as "patrons" and giving 5 bucks to get into a private gallery is interesting. Now I can see why someone might be willing to pay to allow others to view their art. Why who knows, some "artists" may be able to attract enough patrons to pay for their Poser habit or even pay some bills. Nothing wrong with that, except if you want to make money with your art, try peddling your portfolio around, sell prints of your work, or become a content creator. There's lots of opportunities out there if you're good enough.
As far as a "premier" gallery goes, the whole idea sounds elitist and would be just another opportunity for Renderosity to make money and give very little value to it's members, especially the members not interested in looking in the "premier" gallery.
When I look at options this site takes to generate more revenue, I also look at what value members get from them. Personally, with the revenue the marketplace, and all the other "pay to use" options generate, not to mention revenue generated from the images we post and the free advertising via credits we give to products in the marketplace used to make those images, I really don't see members getting any more value out of this site now than they did when it was a free site. Granted, some of that revenue goes to keeping the site running and I'm thankful for that, but aside from more and more restrictions, what additonal value are we getting for the money Renderosity receives from us?
A search engine that isn't very useful, the loss of site customization, backrooms that aren't complete or maintained, Art Charts that pretty much the same popularity contest the Hot 20 was, 1 image upload a day, a more restrictive TOS, thumbnail restrictions, stricter limits on what can or cannot be said in forums...etc. Now, I'm not saying that's all bad...I'm just not seeing members really gaining any ground here.
If you love this place and are happy with things the way they are, fine and dandy, more power too you. If you want to have a "private country club" where only those who can afford it can get in, that's ok too. Me, I'll stick with browsing the free gallery, posting my images in the free gallery where anyone can enjoy them, be amused with the comments and blathering of Renderosity sycophants in the forums, and offer help and advice where I can in the forums.
It's all fun and games...
Until the flying monkeys attack!!!
Quote - > Quote - I think it's rather amusing that this thread contains lots of whining and complaining about people whining and complaining.
:lol: I think it's even more amusing that your complaining about the whining and complaining about people whining and complaining.
Actually I said I thought it was amusing, that's very different from complaining. Any deeper meaning or misrepresentation you may have attributed to my comment is a product of your own seemingly overactive imagination. :rolleyes:
By the way the proper usage of your in the context you used is you're as in you are**.** :tt2:
I find it hillarious that you misinterpreted my amusement as complaining and also couldn't tell the difference between your and you're. :lol:
It's all fun and games...
Until the flying monkeys attack!!!
Those last two replies really fried my mind...but allow me to clear something up:
Whine =complaints that may be justified but offers no solution of any type, just wants to point and scream unfair,
Suggestion= could come from a complaint that may be justifies but offers a solution, normally thought out and understands a suggestion is just that a suggestion
Kiss @ss = someone who knows there are justified reasons to complain but would rather mock someone who makes a suggestion with no real reason why
Don' t know what the opposite of fhe above is but = someone who knows there are justified reasons to complain looks at a suggestion and states why said suggestion wouldn't work, normally thought out
The first and the third are best serverd with cheese.
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Acutally, whining and complaining are defined as:
Whine (hw
n, wn)
1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint.
2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion.
Complain (k
m-pl
n
)
1. To express feelings of pain, dissatisfaction, or resentment.
2. To make a formal accusation or bring a formal charge.
Sycophant (s
k-fnt, sk-)
:a servile self-seeking flatterer
Wiseass (wz
s
)
:A smart aleck
What many people characterize as whining and complaining is actually:
Dissent (d-s
nt)
1. To differ in opinion or feeling; disagree.
2. To withhold assent or approval.
There are whiners and complainers here at Renderosity and often they are sycophants or wise asses who tend to whine and complain primarily about those who dissent. The act of dissent does not require that someone offer a suggestion although often those that dissent do. One cannot help but question the motives of those that desire to quash dissent and silence the dissenters. There is nothing wrong with having a difference of opinion and debating or discussing those. In the case of "thumbnail censorship", many of those that are for it have valid reasons to support it as do those who are against it.
I may have spoken hastily with my comment about my "amusement". Re-examining the thread, it would seem my amusement was perhaps, out of place, as the thread does not contain much "whining and complaining" and did not degenerate (so far) as threads like this often do. For that I apologize. Most often these discussions do degenerate in to "us vs them" shouting and bullying matches often containing "whine and cheese" comments against those that dissent Renderosity's policies.
While I personally disagree with cruzin's suggestion and have stated my reasons for it several posts above this one, I appreciate the fact that the suggestion was offered. However, having a private gallery or forcing people to go to Renderotica is not the solution.
I personally feel Renderosity is wrong in their decision, and while I agree that a full on nude "crotch shot" should not be the focus of a thumbnail, I do not believe in "throwing the baby out with the bath water". Baring all nudity in thumbnails is an unnecessary over-reation to the problem. Such over-reactions have characterized Renderosity staff and management from day 1 of the Bondware takeover.
With the "nudity flag" that removes thumbnails that contain nudity from the site of those that choose not to view it, banning nudity in thumbnails was overkill. For those that choose to see nudity but do not wish to have it "thrown in their face", simple standards eliminating "crotch shots" or other blatent "sexual" imagery from thumbs would have sufficed. As for bare breasts, humongous or otherwise, I can see no reason to eliminate those from thumbs. If bare breasts of any size offend you, it would be best to set the nudity filter. With the diverse community we have, it is hardly fair to say bare breasts are fine in thumbnails as long as they aren't over "36C".
It's all fun and games...
Until the flying monkeys attack!!!
and what's wrong with 36C?
Point taken and thanks for the definitions!
Now Rorrkorn did you know if you link goes somewhere that does not apply to Renderosity TOS, you can be warned by a mod and if this is your third offense you can be permantly banned?
Of course doing the IM thing works too! I do well with splitting up my galleries, those who want to see the darker side of the story no where to look, and I write it all in a way that the other parts posted do enhance the story (not just watch her get sexed up...although I have been known to do that too) but it's like watching a deleted scene to a movie that makes you go...."oh, now this is a little clearer" but not needed to enjoy (if that is a good word for my stories) the whole experiance.
So while I offered the private gallery suggestion...I wouldn't partake.
On the thumbnail note...I did recently have to change a thumb on an image that contained no nudes....but I won't get into thumbgate.
Anywhoo, always fun to "talk" with the folks in the forums from time to time. Peace to all!
Quote - Rorr,
Please do not link to other websites that contain adult/age restricted content. I have removed the link from your post above.Thanks
My bad,I apologize.
I will do my very best to follow Renderosity's TOS.
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I posted this in the Poser Forum because there seem to be more people here than anywhere:
Now imagine you're going through the galleries you find an artist you like and in the same place where it currently has add image, add artist, it has "view members private gallery"
you click that and it sends a request to that member via IM asking for permision to view their private gallery.
A warning pops up such as : Adult related images and if the member is a minor it says unable to view because minor or something similar.
Now once that member goes to his inbox he has "cruzin has requested to view your private gallery will you alllow, a drop down that says allow or do not allow is there and that member chooses to let you or not let you.
In the private gallery the TOS is something similar to renderotica, file sizes for uploads are bigger, text box allows more text and there are no catorgories. Maxixmumc of 2 uploads a day.
The gallery just features that artist's work, maybe a front page much like your homepage.
The kicker: it will cost around 20 bucks per month for that user, another option in it will be so that a member can "click a button" and choose to support this gallery, clicking this allows the person looking to give....let's say 5 bucks to keep that gallery open. Meaning if an artist has a strong enough following, that he or she won't even have to pay the 20 bucks to keep their private gallery open. The patron can choose to have their 5 bucks go to "keep gallery open" "gift certificate" or "artist choice"
Then we could also go with premium private gallery with more features for more money...and so on.
JUST A THOUGHT