Quote - Believe it, dasquid.

Not too long ago, a U.S. politician used a word in a speech. The word means "grudgingly mean about spending or granting", somthing you might call someone who was both miserly and petty about it. Said word has never to my knowledge had any racial overtones.

However, the first part of said word sounds the same as the the infamous "N" word. Two similar-sounding words, different spellings, totally different meanings.

He was raked over the coals by the press. All the usual politicos who get their name in the paper for such things denounced his insensitivity in using such a word.

So you don't have to mis-read the word to get upset about it. You can get upset about it just as it is. If your're that type.

 

Really, I don't have TV, so I didn't catch that presidential discussion (hell, this could have happened long before I was even born for all I pay attention LOL) - But I think that's a darn shame - I agree, that it's factual, it doesn't even have to be the true offensive word's meaning before someone throws arguments - and that's not right. *As far as I'm concerned, [folks] really need to start paying attention to the real issues that matter -- Like typos, I giggle at. But if someone's raising hell at a president for one, I don't think they're interested in serious matters to begin with. (That's why our parents should be teaching us not to follow those "sheep," as we will most likely not learn anything beneficial from them, and continue to cause more harm.)

Peace, baby.

I'm really troubled that the members here don't feel an obligation to turn each other in. Isn't that communism or atheism or something? Com'on, folks, why should the admins have all the fun? Rat out your friends. Spot the witches and get 'em stocked. Check Dad's underwear drawer for copies of Playboy or The Nation.

Better yet, complain about yet undiscovered corporal offenses, like lip hair on women, erotic facial expressions, or suspicious lumps in male pants, when the complaints create an opportunity to cause trouble for people you don't like. Go for it! Maybe you'll get to light the fire at the immolation or even, dare to dream, drop the blade!

Please don't tell me R'osity didn't "create" the atmosphere of the American Taliban. It is created and recreated daily by anyone who supports it, whether for moral or commercial reasons. If someone else initiates a lynch mob, that doesn't compel anyone to join in. Cooperation is collusion, and acquiescence is collaboration. The "What can I do?" argument didn't work for the Germans, and it won't work here.

Even silence is a coward's consent. Which is one reason that the complainers don't tuck their tails between their legs and send polite little PMs to the PTBs.

In my world, where ideas matter, this is "language."
M

Well said mickmca

Jungle bunny racist?
George Orwell, please come home. There are naughty tongues to be cut off and unclean eyeballs to be gouged from their sockets. Thought crime will not be tolerated. Unless we're the ones doing it.

How is your art suffering? This isn't the only place to display human genitals, if that's your thing.
If this was the only venue for you to express yourself I could perhaps understand your being upset, but it isn't. This site is first and foremost a business; the gallery is a courtesy extended to you by the people who run it.

Yes, agreed.  But calling 'hint of nipples!' on conforming clothes where they could only be 'built-in' to the clothing figure or gasping at hints of pubic hair or unsightly bulges is getting a bit nit-picky.  I've seen more racy things on billboards - out in general public for ALL to see and hardly avoidable.  Where is the censorship, where o' where!  The Department of Homeland Censorship isn't doing its job!

I have an idea for the perfect armband for the DoHC - maybe a nice spiffy black uniform to go along with it... ;P

I'm not reading through this whole thread due to time constraints so I don't know if this was mentioned. Or if it's even worth mentioning. Probably not. ;)

I'm not saying what happened was right or wrong. I'm confused as to why people feel that it's necessary to make a thumbnail of the crotch in the first place? Is there no other interesting area of the image? Is it to get more image hits somehow? Is it to flex the rules as far as possible? It seems to have something to do with the display of sexy parts.

I'm not judging at all. I'm just wondering. I find human behavior interesting.

Joe

Anton, I love your image!!! Could I please have your permission to save it and send it to my sisters/daughters in an email? It is SO funny!

This site is first and foremost a business. I agree 100% - whose revenue is generated by its memebers. Members that have already begun to leave.
Check to see how many people have gone over to Deviant arts.
Piss off your clientle - and you'll have no business. That being said, I think Renderosity will still flourish soley on the members who love to do cutsy pictures, fairys and head shots.

Quote - Piss off your clientle - and you'll have no business. That being said, I think Renderosity will still flourish soley on the members who love to do cutsy pictures, fairys and head shots.

Very subtle Bruce. Out of curiosity, do you always refer to yourself in the third-person? I may be just a silly hobbiest who paints cutesy faeries, but at least I'm honest with myself about my talent level. Frazetta you ain't. Try an exclamation point some time; it makes a better point!

First off - I wasn't referring to just myself. I now of many people who have moved on to different sites.
Second.- I don't believe in being subtle. Ill say what I mean point blank.
Lastly - I seem to have touched a nerve. I wasn't to any degree referring to talent. I was referring to topic. An in reference to my talent level -  you might want to check out my book when it comes out this july in case you want to expand upon YOUR talent level.

oh ho ho, PerfectN.  I truly hope you and others don't think deviantArt is the holy ground where all is rosey and nice...

oh no, they've got their own bag of troubles over there.  At least here, you can actually talk to a moderator and have a chance at getting your image restored.  Over there it's 1) pull w/o warning or notification or 2) ban w/o warning or notification.  I know just as many people over there who have left as I know that have left here.  Things here could be a whole lot worse.  That's not to say I'm excusing the ridiculous thumbnail policy (b/c of it and other added restrictions over the past year and a half I've cut my spending here in half, but that's a whole 'nother thread), but things aren't as bad as they could be.  Have no fear, I am confident the site will get to that bad place w/in the next 5 years.  I'm here for the ride until it reaches that point where it's nothing but cutesy pictures, fairies, and head shots.

@ PerfectN - I think you'll find that while most of my recent uploads have been of males, there are a number of females in my gallery. There are also a number of artistic nudes in my gallery. I don't feel disadvanted whatsoever by the TOS.

I'm not really clear as to how exactly your art is suffering due to a cropped thumbnail. I personally love your work, and ensure I keep an eye out for it in the gallery, as I'm sure do most of your artistic admirers. Given we all must conform to the same rules, there is no disadvantage to you and your work specifically.

PerfectN, I have a great deal of respect for you and your work so please do not take offense by what I have written. I've given more than my two cents worth here so this'll be my last comment on the subject. The last thing I want to do is add fuel to this fire.

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> Quote - Yes, agreed.  But calling 'hint of nipples!' on conforming clothes where they could only be 'built-in' to the clothing figure or gasping at hints of pubic hair or unsightly bulges is getting a bit nit-picky.  I've seen more racy things on billboards - out in general public for ALL to see and hardly avoidable.  Where is the censorship, where o' where!  The Department of Homeland Censorship isn't doing its job! > > I have an idea for the perfect armband for the DoHC - maybe a nice spiffy black uniform to go along with it... ;P

Anyone seen those "Dove - Pro Aging" commercials on TV where they have women over the age of 40 naked but posed in such a way that no "sexual"  body parts are showing? Mainstream TV, all hours of the day and night.  Completely nude...tastefully done...nothing showing. Yet none of those images are suitable for the Renderosity gallery thumbnails!  That's more than prudish.

I like the thumbnail policy because I enjoy viewing all art..including nude images, but at the same time I thought the gallery (without the nudity filter on) was looking garish and tacky with all of the enlarged shots of T&A.  So for that reason I'm glad the new policy has cleaned up that aspect of it.  I can still view the nudes without the nudity filter on, and I am not subjected to  what in the past resembled the  back  pages of  Penthouse Magazine. However IMHO   it's gone to the extreme and back in time by about 40 years.

IMHO if you need to blow it up in a graphic program or kiss your monitor to see something, then it should be left as it is because beyond glancing at a thumbnail, I don't think many people actually pay that much attention to the detail in them when looking through the gallery. So I doubt that they would notice that bit of nipple or bit of pubic hair unless they were specifically looking for those types of things in the thumbnail.

OK - I see tempers flaring here and the original question has been asked and answered. Gonna close this one down now, since the original question has been addressed.

Karen