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Subject: Why I won't be entering Rendo's Graphic Comp


TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 3:19 PM · edited Thu, 07 November 2024 at 3:00 PM
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**I don't understand most of this!

The Winner MUST supply ALL images, together, in layered .psd format,
Total File size: 4200 x 3333 pixels, at 300dpi CMYK**
Minimum 2 .psd layers, 1 containing all the fonts (and any lettering) and at least 1 for the images.
We can't all be graphics Gurus so why treat us like we are?
Is this Rendo's subtle way of saying thickos need not enter or some kind of perverse snobbery?
OK so there's a bit of money at stake. So what? We have to read reams of rules and regs just to enter and that's before we even fire up Bryce.

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Victoria_Lee ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 3:37 PM

Don't feel bad, Chris, I won't be entering either, even though I have PS CS2 and PC CS3.  Frankly, the same people win all the time so why bother?

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Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 3:52 PM

It means Rendo favors one particular software. Not that software's competing products, or any other. So if you don't have PS, too bad. It's open to all, but in reality, closed to all except those who have PS.


aprilgem ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:12 PM

I doubt it's snobbery -- I would guess that it's more for practical purposes that they ask for those specs. I'm not sure what competition this is for (are they doing another one of those logo competitions?), but if it's for something they'll be using for print and in many other forms, they need the final art to be large, in CMYK, and something they can work with easily.

What that last part means is ... they'll need the typography to be separate from the images -- that's why they want two or more layers. This way, it's easier to use the type and image either separately or together, depending on what they need.

Photoshop just happens to be handy when it comes to layers. Plus, it's an industry standard. It doesn't necessarily exclude other software by asking for a PSD file, though, because many other programs allow you to save multilayered files as PSD files, like Painter and PaintShopPro.


fpfrdn3 ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:14 PM

So much for us non-commercial folks, it sounds like.


Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:22 PM

@aprilgem: Thanks for the info on the PSD files. I guess I'll have to install my Painter and have something to submit then.


staigermanus ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:24 PM

I'd be happy to donate a copy of PD Pro 3.5 (boxed) for a contest that requires:

  • use only freeware tools: dogwaffle 1.2, artweaver, gimp...
  • flatten the final image to no layer, save as Jpeg
  • make it 1024x768 pixels, donate it to a free wallpapers collection TBD

all I need is someone to run it


staigermanus ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:26 PM

Quote - I doubt it's snobbery -- I would guess that it's more for practical purposes that they ask for those specs. I'm not sure what competition this is for (are they doing another one of those logo competitions?), but if it's for something they'll be using for print and in many other forms, they need the final art to be large, in CMYK, and something they can work with easily.

What that last part means is ... they'll need the typography to be separate from the images -- that's why they want two or more layers. This way, it's easier to use the type and image either separately or together, depending on what they need.

Photoshop just happens to be handy when it comes to layers. Plus, it's an industry standard. It doesn't necessarily exclude other software by asking for a PSD file, though, because many other programs allow you to save multilayered files as PSD files, like Painter and PaintShopPro.

Hm, maybe not. I think they may want to have the images ready for posters at Siggraph or COmiCon or whatevcer show. These dimensions must have come as the result of someone doing a little calculation of so many inches by so many dpi's like 180 dpi for printing at Kinko's on a big tarp. If it's ready to do it'll be all the more ready to assemble in PS for the final poster


dvlenk6 ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:44 PM

It would take me a week to upload a file like that. There is only very bad dial-up where I live.

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:47 PM

Industry standards - Photoshop, 300 dpi, CMYK, and text on a layer seperate from the image, this is the minimum ANY print house will need to work with your art. 

It's not Renderosity, there is no real way around these requirements as any pro printer will use Photoshop, CMYK and pretty much nothing else.

Font must be seperate, since your entire image colors will need to be balanced out by the print house because of the RGB being incompatible with a print press (which is CMYK).

I have a lot of experience now with all this. It can be a pain.

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:54 PM

But, Brycers........enter away.

If ya win, and don't have Photoshop, I'll just have ya send me all your stuff, and I'll pile it in together in my Photoshop the way they need it and give it to them.

No worries.

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fpfrdn3 ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:54 PM · edited Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:59 PM

Thanks for the heads up info AgentSmith,... thus thats what I meant by the "non-commercial" comment. I didn't mean Ren was leaving us all out. 😄


AgentSmith ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 4:59 PM

No prob.

I personally hated giving my font layer up to print houses. Almost every time, they changed its position slightly or something.

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 5:43 PM

**Oh....jeez, hey everybody!
**Might be good to mention the Freeware 2D Image editor The Gimp can save its work in .PSD file format, no problem, I just tried it, works perfectly.

http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/

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Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 5:49 PM · edited Thu, 03 May 2007 at 5:51 PM

Thanks AgentSmith for offering to pile it all together. I don't think I'll enter, Just too busy at the moment. I've forgotten about the Gimp.

Anyway, I'd rather do a Bryce banner (where's the info on this?)


Gog ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 5:53 PM

but Gimp doesn't work in CMYK :(

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Analog-X64 ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 6:06 PM

whats the topic of the contest? anyone have a link?


AgentSmith ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 6:31 PM

No topic, its the run to make the new logo for Renderosity.

Here;
http://www.renderosity.com/news.php?viewStory=13571

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Thu, 03 May 2007 at 6:33 PM

But Gimp doesn't work in CMYK
Arrrrrggggggg....There's always something.........grrrr. I'll still compile content for any winner.

Bryce Banner pages;
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/contest/index.php?contest_id=251
&
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/contest/index.php?contest_id=273

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