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Subject: What Stories would you like to see CG Films made of?
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I'd rather see live human actors. there is an increasingly wide disconnect between CG animators and real-world experience IMVHO. I don't wanna see the visions of some guy who has sat in front of a computer monitor since he was 10 yrs old, as opposed to the vision of somebody who has actually gone out into the world, done things (good, bad or ugly), and experienced life in all its extremes.
Roger Zelazny's Chronicles of Amber, Piers Anthony's Xanth series (only the earlier ones IMHO) come to mind... there's so much wonderful fiction that would be best suited to being brought to life via CGI... things of a fantastic / fantasy nature that either wouldn't be able to be pulled of using traditional (live action) film making or the things of the fantastic / fantasy nature that may not mesh well with live action (real actors) etc. Granted there have been many instances of CGI & live action being used together (Gollum in LOTR) but sometimes a complete one or the other would be good. CGI for filmaking is fantastic as an artist can completely create the world for the film and not have to fall into the conventions of the real world ( physical set design and manufacturing etc) so I personally would love to see some ALL CGI films, tv whatever regardless of whether they're aimed at children (see the Shrek thread from last week) or at older audiences (Final Fantasy VII Advent Children) or whatever comes up!
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i meant to mention the FFVII film!! 'cause i do luv that film, and the spirits within one too, i would luv to see more FF films more than anything, i don't think i even blink when one is on,
there was a reel over at CGSociety when FFXII (i think) was coming out, and it was simple stunning and would be awesome if that was made into a full lenth film, the only thing that disappointed me about that reel was that it ended.
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Having recently watched Eragon (good enough film, but didn't set my life on fire), one series of books came to mind that I'd love to see as a franchise - though it would require a lot of work, on all levels. Has anyone else read David Edding's series, The Belgariad (and it's sequel, The Malloreon)? As classic fantasy sequences go, it would make one hell of a movie-going experience.
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The Elenium/Tamuli series, you mean? Meh, I'm not sure... I always had a preference for the earlier stories and world setting. What impressed me with Edding's work, though, when reading The Rivan Codex, was that he'd approached the whole thing in a similar way to Lucas writing the original Star Wars trilogy. For the scant few out there who might not know, Lucas based the story arc of the trilogy on the work of Joseph Campbell, an esteemed anthropologist who made a comparative study of mythology throughout the world. One of his masterworks was The Hero of 1000 Faces, which basically claimed that all hero myths could be distilled down to one story - the character archetypes and plot beats in all western legends mapped out exactly the same. Lucas took that theory, and mapped out his own space opera using the same journey - and thus a classic film trilogy was born.
What Eddings did was to write, in the late 20th century, a new version of the medieval romances of 12-14th century France. The main difference between him and Lucas is that, rather than relying on some other guy's research to give him the plot outline, Eddings used his expertise as an English professor to discover the 'rules' of the Romance for himself. The main differences between Garion's adventures and Sparhawk's is that the former begin ab ovo (from the egg - meaning at hte beginning of the story), whilst the latter start in media res - in the middle of the action. For me, I think the problem with the latter was that, having read the first two series, seeing the same person write according to the same rules with a completely new, but very familiar set of character archetypes felt a little... well... famliiar.
I still enjoyed the books, though.
jonthecelt
well looking at them, they are the same story.
the Belgariad / Mallorean = quest for object then quest to defeat Propechy (over 10 books not counting the Codex or Polgara / Belgarath)
the Elenium / Tamuli = Quest for Object the Quest to Defeat a God (over Six books)
the Redemption of Anthalus - same again.. but in 1 book...
to me, the Characters of Sparhawk, Kalten, Kurick, Belvier, Ulath and Tyiran are much better writen...
That was my first pick too, The Belgariad. Years ago, my friends and I used to play at casting the characters. I missed the Redemption of Anthalus (off to Amazon I go). But my problem with the Sparhawk series was that they may have been more developed, but I agree with JontheCelt, they still felt like more developed characters I'd seen in the first series.
I'd like to see the Pern series as well. Did anyone read C.S. Friedman's Coldfire Trilogy? I'd love to see that one developed.
Oh, oh, wait...
Brust's Dragaeran series... Though it would be a challenge to capture the dynamics between Vlad and Loiosh.
Jules Verne's classics.
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Michael Moorcock's Elric, Edgar Rice Burroughs' Martian Trilogy, Jack Vance's Dying Earth tales, especially the Cugel the Clever stories are great fantasy that I would love to see. In the sci-fi genre the Lensman series by E.E. "doc" Smith, the World of Tiers by Philip Jose Farmer, DeathWorld by Harry Harrison, any Jack Vance space story, The Reality Dysfunction by Peter F. Hamilton and the Gil Hamilton tales of Larry Niven.
Quote - i'd like a scary version of through the looking glass, maybe alice could bite the head off the teapot mouse too.
We're getting "American McGee's Alice" next year. Is that close enough? It probably won't be completely CG, but I can't really picture them accomplishing it exclusively through practicals.
Dangit, I was gonna bring up Pratchett..;)
Hmm..I'm currently going through an 'alternative History thing', current book (I'm reading) is '1633', by Flint and Weber. Anything along those lines, like anything by Harry Turtledove, some Drake (the Forge, The Hammer, etc).
Heck, I'd be happy if they'd just bring Star Trek back (or do the last 3 Star Wars)..;) Though there is a Star Trek movie on the way..
Liked the Belgariad...you mean there's more to that series? hmm....gelflings...;)
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Daughter of the Empire/Servant of the Empire/Mistress of the Empire, by Raymond Feist and Janny Wurtz
The Riftwar Saga (Magician/Silverthorn/A Darkness at Sethanon) by Raymond Feist
As for Belgariad/Malloreon versus Elenium/Tamuli, my preference is Belgariad/Malloreon. The characters are less archetypal, and the growing up of Garion in the Belgariad adds a lot to the story IMO.
And the Landover series by Terry Brooks (Magic Kingdom for sale - sold! / The Black Unicorn / Wizard at large) wouldbe nice candidates too. Light-hearted fantasy.
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Wow. I'm surprised there are so may Belgariad fans around here. I was always a bit embarassed about having liked that series so much.
But I was going to vote for seriously low-brow material. I'd like to see the '66 Batman series revisited with a treatment which stays loyal to the style and characterization of the TV show, but perhaps makes things a bit more serious. I'd say add a little Denny O'Neil to the Bob Kane/Gardner Fox silver-age-iness, except Denny absosmurfly hates the Batman Fambly. I think it would be nifty to see something like that done in CG. A fan CG film treatment of some of the stories at the Batgirl Bat Trap Homepage! would be neato. Like the original show, it would have the potential to be so bad it could be good....
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I originally got into this cause I'd like some of the old time actors turned into CG characters John Wayne or June Allison ect... John Wane fighting in Afganistan :) lol
The Dragon Rider series is just beggin to get made. Even the Riverwold series would be cool, if done right.
And we're still waiting for Peter Jackson to make the original Hobbit (for the matching set).
But the number one film that I'd love to see remade is called "The Fantastic Planet", In the original french it's called "Savage Planet".
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue105/classic.html
Now THIS movie could be stunning if done in CG.
Quote - Since no one has mentioned it, my choice would be the Discworld series. I don't care if it's CG, live or done with sock puppets, but seeing that amazingly rich (and funny) world brought to life would definitely make my century...
Well, Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters have been done as standard animation. Any of the night watch books would translate well to film. My personal pick would have to be Small Gods, although I don't think there is anything especially in that one that would require CGI.
Quote - I'd rather see live human actors. there is an increasingly wide disconnect between CG animators and real-world experience IMVHO. I don't wanna see the visions of some guy who has sat in front of a computer monitor since he was 10 yrs old, as opposed to the vision of somebody who has actually gone out into the world, done things (good, bad or ugly), and experienced life in all its extremes.
There's a lot of CGI backlash out there. I like it myself, but it's like anything else (writing, acting, directing) there's some good and some bad. Frankly, the best CGI stuff, and there's lots of it, you don't even recognize as CGI.
It's great for establishing an environment as compared to the old school matte painting which required the camera to stay fixed to make the illusion work. With CGI, you can move around.
The two that came to my mind, cause I just don't see how they could make a usable live version are...
Robert Asprin's M.Y.T.H. Inc. series
Piers Anthony's Xanth series
Rumor mill has it that the Xanth series is seriously being looked at for a future film, but, for those that know the books...I'm sorry, there ain't no way they could make a live version and make it good.
The covers of the Eddings books had a vibe I really liked and would look stunning in a movie - the actual stories didn't match very closely though IIRC, though I was a fan back inthe 80's.
One cover featured a kind of river/waterway/canal thing built up over a forested landscape with a big ship travelling along it...awesome - but not in the actual book.
I'd like to see an SF movie totally devoted to the work of Chris Foss - just grab all his coolest paintings as a starting point and write a story around them, heheh.
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Only Anthony I remember liking is the 'Incarnations of Immortality' series..but that's me..;)
They did make a Batman movie of the 66 variety
Dickson's series on the Dragon (and the Gnarly king, the George, etc)
If they make another Elron Hubberd movie, don't let it be as bad as the last one..;)
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"They did *make a Batman movie of the 66 variety"
*They should make a better one. :-P
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Jack L.Chalker's The Well of Souls to start, then move onto the others in the series... Thats a series that would almost have to be predominately CG, and made int he mini-series format as the Sci-Fi channel did wth Dune. Maybe live action for the scenes in the "real universe, then switching to a CG look after going thru the Well, which is computer generated after all. Then they could follow up with the other books. Would LOVE to see a CG Mavra Chang, both before and after Obie!!!
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Dragonrider's or any of her stuff. Killshandra would be a great character as well. I don't see anything wrong with more CG, the better they get at it the better I like it. Of course I saw Gryphon and laughed til I rolled off the couch. Was curious if that was the Sixus gryphon....anyone know?
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My vote goes for Larry Niven's entire Ringworld series of Novels. Possibly Anne McCaffery's Dragonrider's of Pern.