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Subject: Looking back in our gallery...


babuci ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2007 at 6:25 PM · edited Mon, 18 November 2024 at 10:29 PM

Hello Rendorian photographers!

I was checking my gallery for a picture, make sure I am not posting a same image twice. Boy, what I was doing in my early days...shocking...LOL. Then I started to pick which pictures I would shot again or modify...I end up feeling wanna to delete those early works. I will not of course, they all my pictures what ever is a quality and good to see how far (maybe not that far) I developed my skill taking pictures of various theme. 
I like to hear about your thoughts on this! Would you delete or shoot again your "no so lovely" shots? 

Thanks for a time...seeyus  Tunde


nongo ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2007 at 6:39 PM

Honostly Tunde, I've deleted quite a lot of my earlier photos, they were taken with my older camera and not so good when I looked back, also I wasn't sure how many we could have in our gallery?? But I've seen some with way more than I have. I'm still not sure if there's a limit or not? Would be nice to know?  But on the flip side it is nice to go have a look at how far you've come in your skills... So maybe I shouldn't have deleted???  Just my thoughts... Akemi


babuci ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2007 at 8:04 PM

Thank You Akemi to respond back! I can understand if you choose to delete the "flat ones".  I am not sure if any restriction how many photo we can have in our gallery, I know some member has 1200+ picture, so I am for sure on a safe side yet, but would be interesting to know for if any limitation.

seeya  Tunde


jocko500 ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2007 at 9:58 PM

I looked in mine a few days ago for the same reason. I had a imge in there that had 45 views a year ago and it was old from 2004. I was going to delete it last year but did not. When i looked a few days ago it had 105 veiws. LoL for two years just 45 veiws and then in a year it had 70 more veiws. I say people like to look in the old stuff of the gallery to see where they came from and see how much they grown. Plus to see what changes they made to be better or what way he doing art now and before too. Lot of things people look at the past. I leeave the good the bad and the ugle in hopeing to show what not to post on the bad and ugles. 
I left it alone. 
It like looking at a history book of a artist. to see they diff styles as they grow in art. You can see that in the art books of artist as the history people write about them.

what you see is not what you know; it in your face


TomDart ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2007 at 10:10 PM

Tunde, this is copied from my homepage:

"My gallery reflects the raw, unpolished beginnings to where I am now. That is why quality varies so much from start to now... this gallery is a personal reminder of growth and motivation. When I first arrived at this website, I thought “manipulation” and graphics work was the rule. I tried Poser and other programs but kept returning to photography. That is where I am most of the time. Being here is growth in itself and being surrounded by so many talented artists of various genre is a blessing. God has blessed me in being here to share ...."

I keep the old images since unless someone really digs to the last page, they will not see them. I am not ashamed of those tries..only now I have better direction and am better at what I do.   I need the reminder sometimes of where I was when first coming to this website.  This is for me.  

So, keep that stuff.  Sure, onece in a while I will find one and revise it, delete the original and repost.  Still, I LIKE the reminder of growth.          Tom.


babuci ( ) posted Thu, 07 June 2007 at 11:01 PM

@Jocko....I noticed too, some picture of mine was not realy comented, about 6mnths down a track, more come to it. I suppose new members go and visit our gallery so coments keep raising.
@Tom... thanks to hop in. I like how you approaching a matter. None of us born with camera in our hand, so yeah, everybody needed to start somewhere and show this (leave it) in  a gallery .  You see what I know about photography in my gallery.....no, I am not shame of it!

seeyus  Tunde


inshaala ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2007 at 5:01 AM

I keep them for much the same reasons as has been mentioned here - it is nice to see how you have developed.  And to answer one of the original questions - yes - i would re-shoot a shot i thought i could improve upon (and often on my walk arounds in st andrews i do shoot the same scene just incase it looks better than last time i went there ;)  But i wouldnt delete the old one - i would probably link to it in my description to give others a chance to see what i did before and what i did now - that is where it gets interesting to see development and choice :)

"In every colour, there's the light.
In every stone sleeps a crystal.
Remember the Shaman, when he used to say:
Man is the dream of the Dolphin"

Rich Meadows Photography


babuci ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2007 at 5:13 AM

Thnx Rick to share your opinion! Yes I have many shot made in a past , not a very good one and re shoot them to get what I realy want out of it....sometimes happens, sometimes need more re-shooting. Good idea to make a link between the first shot and a re visited shot. To compare it in quality ( development ) or for just a different athmosphere mood, like in a morning and  late afternoon.

seeya  Tunde


TwoPynts ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2007 at 9:02 AM

Nice commentary everyone. I agree that it is nice to have those older images to see how we've developed. To my knowledge there is no limit on how large your gallery can get.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


MGD ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2007 at 4:24 PM

I leave all of my images in my gallery -- I wouldn't delete a single one. 

OTOH, there are a few images in my gallery that could be improved by new
photography, a change in how I did the photoshop editing, or additional
photoshop editing to remove (reduce) distracting elements such as glare,
too much (little) shadow, &c. 

IOW, I should I should do much more than just accept all advice, I should also
follow more of the good advice that I got at the time.  LOL

--
Martin


Margana ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2007 at 5:04 PM · edited Fri, 08 June 2007 at 5:11 PM

LOL I would probably delete almost everything in my gallery, except the most recent stuff I've done. I always have to stop myself from doing that. I appreciate seeing how far I've come, but I can't help but focus on all the flaws and want sooooooo badly to fix them all, ( or never see them again...). 

So my solution is to never look at them, lol.

Occasionally, however , I am forced to, like when someone goes to my gallery and comments on the really early stuff. I always cringe...even though I appreciate it.

And LOL at Tunde not worrying about the max number of uploads. I hear ya sister, lol.That is one issue I definately don't have to worry about! It took two years for me to reach 100 uploads...  :^)

PS There's another reason I don't delete. The comments. Some of them are from people who have long gone from here and it's almost like a mini trip back in time...

Okay, so I get a bit nostalgic...lol.

Marlene <")

Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog


"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog gets depressed again." - Jay Leno


babuci ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2007 at 6:24 PM

Marlene, you pointed out right, if I delete some dodgie picture of mine, so as I delete a coments with it. I realy like reading them, a few of them my good friends and sometimes they advise me what to look out for in my next picture, how to make it better, or wish me well, how can I throw their preccious advise away?  What I would do, if I re-shot a picture and delete a hopeless one, I would copy/paste a coments what got for it to remember perhaps compare them with a new coments.

seeya  Tunde


Margana ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2007 at 8:00 PM

That's a great idea. I never thought of that. Now I can delete everything!

LOL just kidding... :^)

Marlene <")

Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog


"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog gets depressed again." - Jay Leno


stuart83 ( ) posted Fri, 08 June 2007 at 8:58 PM

Interesting you pose this question, I like most have gone bak to the beginning of my gallery, to date I've only deleted 1 & that was of my daughter with a wallaby, deletion was no because of quality, I'm somewhat concerned of Images of children on the net (my children mostly). also I have added a border/ frame to some of the older stuff as well, so to sumerise I won't be deleting/ modifying any more as I don't see it as an indicator as to where I have come from.

Stuart


jocko500 ( ) posted Sat, 09 June 2007 at 12:45 AM

I remember a painter  that painted cowboys and stuff of the old west. I think you spell his name Remitin [like the rifle]  People know he painted 12 images of some comeboys but only two today can be finded. He wrote in his dariy he burn them and if he could he would burn all his work for he thought they was no good. 
Make you think of your work too. In your own eyes you judge too hard your work. In other people they just super works of art. 
food for thought

what you see is not what you know; it in your face


Margana ( ) posted Sat, 09 June 2007 at 2:04 AM

Food for thought  indeed, Jock.

Thank you for telling us about Remington. I bet there were many famous artists who felt similarly about their work.

Marlene <")

Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog


"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog gets depressed again." - Jay Leno


jocko500 ( ) posted Sat, 09 June 2007 at 9:45 AM

thanks for spelling his name right. The only reason he did not burn the two of that set of paintings is he sold them and he wish he could buy the back to burn. Happy he could not do that.. I like the man work

what you see is not what you know; it in your face


PeeWee05 ( ) posted Sat, 09 June 2007 at 10:32 AM

I've kept every single older shot as a reminder, besides I doubt many ppl actually go to the front of my gallery.

Q: Would keeping your earlier, crappier work mean your gallery would't be fit for selection into GOM? (it's a thought for ppl aspiring to 'win' that award)

Rights Come With Responsibilities VAMP'hotography Website VAMP'hotography Blog


babuci ( ) posted Sat, 09 June 2007 at 5:32 PM

Vera thanks to reply...I use to go to members gallery and looking their early works. Interesting to see some just start to upload everything at a begining and over  time they develope they own style and running along that line. Few realy started at a bottom, now I have to say...holly mamma look at those shots or postworks. So good to see  they come out of their shell and not deleting none of the trial shots! 
@Jocko....I went to see some of Remington's work....he is realy great, wonder why he did not belive himself?  

seeyus  Tunde


jocko500 ( ) posted Sat, 09 June 2007 at 10:55 PM

He wrote that a lot of people thought his work was illitations [misspelled mean doing work for Magizines to show something] and not work of art. He did a lot of the Cuba war and stuff like that. Plus people say he used the same colors in all his work. If you look at them it is mostly the same colors in the shadows and sunlight too. He say he use them like this for that is how the colors are in the west. He wrote down what colors to use and where. The colors I guess he could have change when he was in Cuba for the colors would have been diff? I guess at this for the land would be more greener.  When i was out west for the two weeks I did noted the colors was the same as Reminton's. 
I saw this on the Doc. channel one day. That channel have a lot of shows on painters and photographers   and film makers
In other words I guess he listen to what people say about his work. I know you need to listen but sometimes you need to do what your heart tells you

what you see is not what you know; it in your face


babuci ( ) posted Sat, 09 June 2007 at 11:02 PM

Jocko, interesting you say that about a color usage on his work. I googled his work out, lotca picture came up, and noticed a very similar colors on nearly all of his pictures. Like as you said, every thing has to have a certain color and no other. Truly interesting.

seeya  Tunde


jocko500 ( ) posted Sat, 09 June 2007 at 11:17 PM

Guess it was a way he learn to paint and saw he was good at it that way  so he stay with it. I saw this show last month so keep watching as the doc. and disv. channel repete it self a lot.

what you see is not what you know; it in your face


MGD ( ) posted Sun, 10 June 2007 at 10:06 AM

babuci said,

Marlene, you pointed out right, if I delete some dodgie picture of mine, so
as I delete a coments with it.

[snip]

What I would do, if I re-shot a picture and delete a hopeless one, I would
copy/paste a coments what got for it to remember perhaps compare them
with a new coments.

An even better strategy is to do a new upload.  In your notes for the new
image, include a link to the original ... and some words about your artistic
intention for the new image (what changed from the original). 

In addition, edit your notes for the original and just add the link to the new
image (no other changes there) ... that way, you have everything that was
said about the original ... plus new comments, advice about the new image. 

You don't loose any information, comments, advice from friends ... We don't
loose any information about your progress as an artist. 

--
Martin


babuci ( ) posted Sun, 10 June 2007 at 5:20 PM

Good point Martin, I might use it in a future if I decide to delete some of my work. Thanks for an idea.

seeya  Tunde


TwoPynts ( ) posted Mon, 11 June 2007 at 11:05 AM

Quote - I've kept every single older shot as a reminder, besides I doubt many ppl actually go to the front of my gallery.

Q: Would keeping your earlier, crappier work mean your gallery would't be fit for selection into GOM? (it's a thought for ppl aspiring to 'win' that award)

Perhaps that is what has been holding me back? ;'P Naw, especially if you show improvement over time, earlier less refined images are not a detriment.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


Margana ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2007 at 2:59 AM · edited Thu, 14 June 2007 at 3:14 AM

It's true, it's not often people go back to the beginning of your gallery, but it does happen. I know, because it's happened to me, several times......Maybe it's because they don't have to go back so far with mine, lol...

As to reposting an earlier, 'dodgier' pic of mine...I don't know, but I just can't bring myself to do that. For one thing,  I have a hard time going 'backwards'...in anything. But also, while I want to fix them soooo badly, lol, I also have a weird kind of pitiful yet loving 'respect' for them, for what they were at the time...even if they are rather embarrassing, lol.

As far as Remington's colors...the sun casts a different quality of light, for various reasons, all over the world. Therefore, the light and the shadows will have different hues, wherever you go. For instance, the light cast by the desert sun can be quite orange. Therefore, it's shadows, which are always the complimentary color, are always blue/violet. So it's not surprising that an artist's color palette would change with a change in his location.

Just one more thing, and then I'll end this boring ramble, lol...

*"In other words I guess he listen to what people say about his work. I know you need to listen but sometimes you need to do what your heart tells you"

I couldn't say it better, Jock... :^)

Once again, great thread, Tunde.

Marlene <")

Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog


"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog gets depressed again." - Jay Leno


jocko500 ( ) posted Thu, 14 June 2007 at 7:29 PM

Remington went he went to Cuba did not change his colors. He painted a lot of action war paintings there.  I think he was set in his colors too much. I do understand the colors out west. You see them in photos here on R.R. This is what the people of his day say about his work. One of the reason he burn some of his work. I had destory some of my early paintings too. That why I wrote this about this man. I know it may be off subject but he and I did the same thing.
I know deleteing from the gallery will not destroy your work for you have it at home I hope. But you may feel bad about it later on.
I understand what you saying about the colors around the world. I know Cuba would have diff colors than out west.

what you see is not what you know; it in your face


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