1. What new VOB models will be included with Vue 4? 9. Will Solid Growth 2 finally get us a decent looking evergreen tree? 8. In Vue 4, if a Solid Growth 2 tree falls during an animation, and no one sees it happen, does it export an mpeg audio file? 7.If I stare into the Vue 4 sun will I go blind? 6. What do I do if theres not enough room in my monitor to hold Vue 4s volumetric atmosphere? 5. Will Vue 4s random rock generator give me Classic Rock or is it limited to current bands? 4. Will the negative lights have an attitude? 3. Which one of us paying customers will be the first to get his (or her) paws on a copy of Vue 4? 2. Which one of us will be the first to complain about some problem or lack of feature on Vue 4? And the number 1 question is: 1. Where will we store all the Blue Gunk now that were not using it any more? ;) -smt

LOL! Now this is good! I'm hoping I'll be the first to get his paws on Vue 4, but I'll probably be at work when it's abnnounced, LOL! As for who will be the first to complain about a missing feature or a problem? I'm betting it'll be bloodsong. Maybe Fox-Mulder. Could just as easily be ME, too. ;) Sure hope those negative lights don't have TOO much of an attitude, LOL! Funny stuff, Steve, you ought to be E-ons' Minister of Humor!

I've heard that Blue Gunk has a half-life of 10,000 years! I'm going to have to import a DEM file of Arizona or New Mexico just to have a place to bury it all! Then I'm going to have to send it to a tape backup unit so it won't contaminate anything! -SMT

hey! i wanted to be the first to complain, but.... small just complained about missing features! so i guess small is the first. :/ i'm just worried about the 'completely NEW interface.' oh, and the new free camera controls. i just hope they're not TOO much like bryce. i liked the old interface just fine. come to think of it... 'do everything in the main view' also sounds like a bryce imitation. and i'm surprised fox hasn't complained that the list DEFINITELY says it imports poser STILL scenes only. not animations. (i told ya so ;) )

I loved #8. In Vue 4, if a Solid Growth 2 tree falls during an animation, and no one sees it happen, does it export an mpeg audio file?

ROFL Steve! This is a most wonderful list! I think Cheers was already the first to mention "omissions" in the new features list. But if it is to be counted after release, I'd place my bets on Bloodsong. :) ...who stated: i'm just worried about the 'completely NEW interface.' oh, and the new free camera controls. ... And I agree. My worries are there, too. I'm also a wee bit concerned about how the OpenGL will play havoc with resources. However it says there is an option of having the shading in one viewport, any, or none. So it would seem that part will be very customizeable :)

If all the stuff that e-on shows on their website works as it appears, I think that this is an INCREDIBLE piece of software for a dirt-cheap price! I think even the really BIG software companies should be worried about this. In fact, I'm so worried that this software is so powerful, that I'm afraid some really big company is going to want to buy-out E-On... Personally, I'm in the process of buying a major new Dual Pentium running Windows 2K to run Vue 4. I'm sure all the people who find $199 EXPENSIVE and will whine about every little thing, well, TOO BAD. If you apply Vue 4 on a power platform, this is a major KICK-BUTT opportunity, I think. Jeez- Great COB, 3DS and OBJ Imports, Poser Imports, high-end effects people pay BIG BUCKS for in MAX and LW- THIS F**KIN ROCKS MAN!... Whiners- CLEAR THE STREETS, My Vue 4 Starship is being assembled as we speak. I want a 64MB Open GL Card too, unless I can get a good deal on a 128MB card. I'm going to MAX OUT this Vue 4 opportunity, as I can see TONS of exciting (and money making) things I can do with it...

Smallspace, I don't have all the answers but do have a few. Solid growth will not provide better looking trees. You'll simply have to accept that trees were never very good at looking, even if you give them prescription eyeglasses. I'm not sure if staring into the Vue sun will blind you. But looking too long at some of those Poser models people use might. Definitely it will grow hair on the palms of your hands. When your monitor gets full of volumetrics just tilt it a bit and some of it will leak out. I think the random rock will probably just be from current bands. But you can always apply erosion effects to age it properly. Negative lights never have an attitude. It is just that positive lights don't have a proper appreciation of reality. But I can't really speak from experience- I'm a "lights out" kind of guy. Don't worry about excess blue gunk. You can always sell it to the fashion designers- they'll buy anything. After exhaustive analysis, observation and the most meticulous research I can most assuredly confirm that no, animated solid growth trees will not produce sound regardless of second party observations. Uhhh.. wait a moment, is that volume control off...? Seriously, I'm a Bryce fan but if I were Corel I would be a bit worried right now. I'm definitely going to need a closer look at Vue 4 when it is released. Hope they'll have a demo. Actually, they could probably get a lot of extra sales if they offered a sidegrade from Bryce. ps. Oh yes, I'd like to complain about the fact that Vue 4 does not yet incorporate all the features of Vue 5. - Jack Valero

ROFLOL Jack! I'm dying here! :D

Jack I definetly agree, I do not see any of the features of Vue5 in Vue4...now what is up with that!!! HMPF, thats it, I am not going to buy Vue4....... HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHA...yeah whatever

I'm waiting for Vue v.7 with the cranial interface. You just plug it in and imagine what kind of image you want to see, then render and ... there it is! :)

Cranial interface Varian? That might be a dangerous thing. Just imagine what it will do to our self esteem when we get blank renders... Now, where did I put my crayons?

Oh geez...now I have to clean off the monitor again! :D

LOL! Oh man, you guys are too much!

Cranial interface...no way Varian! If they incorperated that into Vue7, then everyone would see how pathetic my imagination is ;) Just one thing about the new camera system. My guess is that it is a harmonising (spelling?) attempt with Poser. If e-on intend to work closely with the Poser file format, espeically animation in the future, then it makes sense to make things similar if camera settings can be transferred over. Actually I hope Lynn is reading this thread, becuase the suggestion Jack made about a Bryce to Vue4 upgrade path, would be an inspired (by Jack, of course ;) ) move by e-on. Cheers

Well I certainly hope they kept the OLD camera controls as well as the new ones because that is one of the things I hate the most about Poser - those stupid trackball controls that don't give you any control at all. The thing I liked BEST about Vue was they did the camera controls RIGHT. Kate the Koncerned

If they do have the trackball camera, I hope it's an option and not the default. I actually like the trackball camera in Poser and Bryce, but I'd hate to see E-on ditch their current camera setup.

Attached Link: http://www.e-onsoftware.com/Products/vue4/Interface.jpg

Looking more closely, I see you're right, Steve. At 1280x1024, though, I can't really make out much of anything. But that IS a relief (although I'd been silently hoping that a trackball camera would be an otion at least)! -Mike

"although I'd been silently hoping that a trackball camera would be an otion at least" ....... HEY! Does this mean that I have managed to be the first one to complain about the new Vue 4? Or does it only count once we've already got it? ;)

All "Pre-complaints" will be filed in the appropriate cylindrical box! "Post-complaints" will be duly noted and awards will be given at that time. - Ministry of Humor

That sounds like about as official as any decree I've ever seen. And so it is! Whew-- I was worried; I really didn't want to be the first with a complaint!

LOL Mike. I did complain about the lack of extra modelling tools yesterday. I don't often get awards, so I'm going to make sure I get the "First Complaint Award" ;). I have had a few days to think about it and I don't think I will be upgrading to Vue4...well, not until it has NURBS and Patch modelling ;o) Cheers (keyboard now cleaned out)

I have a few post-complaints. I'd like to complain about a few posts! :D

...ohh yer, and 3D Painting ;) Cheers

Well, as long as I can still "click and drag" my camera, I'll be a happy camper. The new stuff looks awesome. Kate the Not Quite As Worried As She Was Before