Hi all,

If vendors create cloths for selling, why they create some free of charge?
Are they different in quality or whatever? I don't got it.

Thank in advance.

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it may be an inducement to purchase items from them, if the free items are good.

Offering free items is a way to get people to try their products.  It helps to build a customer base for them because people are more likely to buy from someone that they are familiar with the quality of their items.

Someone who hopes to use a free item in an image for commercial purposes , should check whether that is permitted.   Some people who sell in the marketplace do also offer free items, but the difference may be that the free item is for non-commercial use only.  

It's marketing, advertizing, self promotion... Little bit like giving away food samples, you want to whet peoples appetites to get the whole package.

Some of my free stuff is samples for my pose packs, but some is just because... I like giving freebies.

About 50% of my freestuff was shared with no other goal in mind but to help others out. I don't sell background packs, characters or clothing texture sets... but they're there anyway :-)

I do free stuff to give back to those people that allow me to do this for a living.. without them. I couldn't do this.

Also, some items are copyrighted, snd I couldn;t sell them, however I could give them away, so I do;t have to worry about litigation.

And sometimes I'll do a stupid request because someone wants it.. like the rigged cashew I did last year.

'but some is just because... I like giving freebies'

I'm with Karen on this one. Some of us just like to make stuff for free. I do this full time so I'm always making stuff. Some of it I put into the store and some of it I like to put into freestuff.  It's a lot of time and trouble to make so it's great to see your efforts being enjoyed and used by a lot of people. A good product will sell a few hundred - a good freebie will be downloaded by thousands :)

If these Nigerians would ever come through with all of the money they promised me I would dump all of my products into Freestuff :)

• Rick 

I got myself so many great gifts from Poser community (gifts literally and gifts - freebies) that I'd feel extremely stupid charging for anything. I don't make many things, but I make them for the figure I love the most and I just like to spread the love ;-) Yes, I feel much more secure buying something from someone I have used freebies first.

I happen to think GIVING AWAY HIGH QUALITY FREEBIES is a HIGHLY EFFECTIVE and VASTLY UNDERUSED method for vendors to DRAMATICALLY INCREASE SALES, not to mention a FANTASTIC way to INCREASE SELF-CONFIDENCE, virtually GUARANTEE PROMOTION AT WORK, and IMPROVE ONE'S SEX LIFE.

(There.  Now just sit back and watch and watch the freebies roll in!  ;)  )

I think it's a good question, actually.  I enjoy some freebies I've downloaded more than products I've paid good money for.  It must be love of the hobby.  Twisted, generous bastards!

My favorites are the quasi-educational freebies...ones that not only give me something cool to play with, but also by virtue of how they're made teach me a little more about the cool things that can be done in Poser (Materials, Dynamic Stuff, etc.)  That stuff is definitely the product of  true Poser-love, and I salute everyone who makes this noble, inspiring kind of thing!

...as well as everyone who incorporates the full range of female breast morphs into their freebie clothing...

Thanks, Freebie-makers!!!

As everyone else has said, we give away freebies for many purposes.
Sometimes I give away stuff that my creative energies just ran out, and I did not complete everything I wanted to incorporate, Sometimes its a sample of a larger product. Othertime, I just make things strictly for a freebie, usually I attempt to make somethig oncce a month as a monthly freebie (though my new job has been sucking my time up so I have had little time to make anything let alone freebies)

If it wasn't for the little freebies we get, I wouldn't bother with 3D at all. This is a hobby for me. I dont feel the need to spend mega bucks on items just for a hobby. Thankfully, there are freebie providers. Without them, 3D would be useless to most people who dont have wads of cash to blow on models everyday. I have baught stuff from those offering freebies.

It also allows us to see what kind of models people make and sell before we buy from that vendor. Those that just sell without providing at least one freebie or even a few freebies, will never get my money.

When greedy vendors takeover 3D with their high prices, with no freebies,  then I'm out of this hobby.

"When greedy vendors takeover 3D"

I'm curious, in your professional industry (whatever it is you do for a living), what do you do for free?  No offense intended - I just think that many fail to realize some of these people actually do it for thier living.  I don't think we should consider them greedy just for expecting to be paid for thier work.  It's something the rest of us expect, why should they be held to different standards.

Personally I can see needing to give away a few items to get your name out there, but saying someone is greedy because they don't want to GIVE you something is kind of ironic.

ah yes, I hit a nerve didn't I? I never said I didnt pay for models, I have. Read my post without taking it out of context and turning it into something it's not. Content makers are greedy, with their outragous prices, 20, 30, 40 dollars for models is something that is just pure greed and I will not support those vendors. I support vendors that have reasonable prices for their products and provide freebies with it. I dont care about their living let them get real jobs like everyone else. I do this a hobby. I refuse to shellout money tomake someone rich of a 3D model that would free otherwise. If people didnt have wads of cash to blow on this, the markets would empty and their be more freebies.

Everybody wants to get rich off this thats why the market is flooded with V3 crud.

My opinion, take it or leave.

I can only give my own motivations for making stuff available as freebies.

Some things I create for a specific use for myself and once they've done their job I might as well let others enjoy them too.
Some figures I do work on to the point that they are functional and do the job they're intended for but then I take them no further (so things like large amounts of morphs or fancy textures people would be expection from a product sold don't exist for them). This often ties in with me experimenting and trying to learn on them.
And finally there are things I just don't think anyone would waste money on - I don't believe they will sell. So I make them free instead

Quote - ah yes, I hit a nerve didn't I? I never said I didnt pay for models, I have. Read my post without taking it out of context and turning it into something it's not. Content makers are greedy, with their outragous prices, 20, 30, 40 dollars for models is something that is just pure greed and I will not support those vendors. I support vendors that have reasonable prices for their products and provide freebies with it. I dont care about their living let them get real jobs like everyone else. I do this a hobby. I refuse to shellout money tomake someone rich of a 3D model that would free otherwise. If people didnt have wads of cash to blow on this, the markets would empty and their be more freebies.

Everybody wants to get rich off this thats why the market is flooded with V3 crud.

My opinion, take it or leave.

Ridiculous! Do you know how much work was put in many of those products? How many hours were spent modeling, mapping, texturing, rigging, morphing, testing and repairing these things?
Even at $30 or $40 there is little chance of the creator breaking. The market is just too tiny and you're a top seller if the sales reimburse you for the time spent - at minimum wage.
And Poser content is ridiculously underpriced for the quality delivered

Dajadues, I suggest you go look at Turbosquid for greed and outrageous prices.

'Some things I create for a specific use for myself and once they've done their job I might as well let others enjoy them too'

Ah yes, I forgot about that one and I've often done the same thing. I'll make something for a particular render and know that it''s not ready for 'prime time' so it usually only takes a little more effort to make it into a neat little prop set for others. This is a win-win situation for everyone I think. Nobody would make a 'Wrestling Mat' set or a 'Bunny Set' and try to sell it so these prop sets would never see the light of day unless they were available as freebies and they might as well be available because what else would I do with them? lol :)

• Rick

""ah yes, I hit a nerve didn't I? I never said I didnt pay for models, I have. Read my post without taking it out of context and turning it into something it's not. Content makers are greedy, with their outragous prices, 20, 30, 40 dollars for models is something that is just pure greed and I will not support those vendors. I support vendors that have reasonable prices for their products and provide freebies with it. I dont care about their living let them get real jobs like everyone else.""

You didn't answer me.  What is it exactly that you do during the course of your professional life that you do for free?  I'd seriously be interested in knowing as I might benefit from your services.  Perhaps it is you who didn't read what I said, because I certainly didn't say that you had never purchased anything.

In case you hadn't noticed - 3D is a large and growing industry.  It's definately acceptable that some people make thier careers in it.  You should step back to consider that without people who make thier careers in it, you wouldn't have your hobby.  I'd venture to guess that you have no clue whatsoever what actually goes into making a quality model.  It's certainly more time than it takes to sew a Barbie dress - but those things have been selling for 10$-20$ bucks for years.   Supply and demand.  

It would appear that you are one of those silver platter people.  You could prove me wrong, just let me know what I can get for free from you.  How many hours of your time that you will willingly donate to a hobby of mine.  I find it incredibly rude when people expect what they dont give.

I appreciate freebies just like the next person.  Key word: appreciate.  I don't expect people to give me anything.  Above all else I  would NEVER call someone greedy for not doing it.

Dajadues:

Quote - ah yes, I hit a nerve didn't I?  ...  Content makers are greedy, with their outragous prices, 20, 30, 40 dollars for models is something that is just pure greed and I will not support those vendors.

Yes, I recall the many high quality freebies you've offered to show real generosity.  I agree, $20 is vastly overpriced for something you spend 2-3 months creating, especially when you're only getting half of it (standard broker split).

Quote - If it wasn't for the little freebies we get, I wouldn't bother with 3D at all. This is a hobby for me. I dont feel the need to spend mega bucks on items just for a hobby. Thankfully, there are freebie providers. Without them, 3D would be useless to most people who dont have wads of cash to blow on models everyday. I have baught stuff from those offering freebies.

It also allows us to see what kind of models people make and sell before we buy from that vendor. Those that just sell without providing at least one freebie or even a few freebies, will never get my money.

When greedy vendors takeover 3D with their high prices, with no freebies,  then I'm out of this hobby.

Wow, what an extreme opinion.
With your lack of appreciation for my work, or work of other content creators (especially those whom make free stuff) I hope you're not using any of my freebies. 
See, just because something is free it doesn't mean it has no value.

Note to self: add to terms of use a clause that the author reserves the right to revoke use privileges (at own discretion).

Quote - Dajadues, I suggest you go look at Turbosquid for greed and outrageous prices.

Actually, lot of  Turbosquid prices are more reflective of the time and effort it takes to create something.

Let's say something takes around a month to create. 4x40 hours (160 hours)
if it's sold at $20 on rendo, for each copy sold rendo gets 10 bucks, the creator gets 10 bucks (I'm assuming the usual retail 50/50 split here - I don't know what it is actually)

So, if a creator selld 160 copies of a model, they're up to gettin' paid $10 bucks an hour for a months work. If they sell 320 copies, they're up to whoppin' $20 bucks an hour (still not all that much). Hardly enough for someone to make a decent living at, and definately not getting rich.

I wonder if any vendors actually sell 300 copies of an item. Being that soon after an item gets populat it is all too often pretty easily found pirated, on various torrent sites.

In real retail world, losses like that are usually built into the price that the real paying customers pay. Many people are extremely lucky that a lot of content creators are sort of turning the blind eye to things, and only every now and then a complaint surfaces.

This is another reason I really don't wanna sell things I make... People like dajadues worrying I was getting rich off of them.

I'm new to this whole 3D thing and I am overwhelmed at the talent creators have. I can't even  figure out how to use poser..(mostly use Daz) I was estatic to find that there was freebies available. I certainly never expected there to be. I agree that freebies are an excellent way for vendors to advertise what they have to offer. My maxed out credit card thanks them lol. To demand a vendor give you something for free is what I would call greedy. Do you go into the grocery store and deman that they give you something for free before you buy groceries there?
I think that those who make this their career have one of the coolest jobs, but also very hard. But I've noticed that most vendors create as a side job, I thnk they deserve the most credit.
So cudos to you vendors. JMHO

Quote - Actually, lot of  Turbosquid prices are more reflective of the time and effort it takes to create something.

With some obvious exceptions.

*not textured, not rigged, $1000

Quote - > Quote - Actually, lot of  Turbosquid prices are more reflective of the time and effort it takes to create something.

With some obvious exceptions.

*not textured, not rigged, $1000

Ah... hahaha, yea, I hear ya!  
There are extremes everywhere, aren't there? Sometimes I wonder if people actually look around to see how their work stacks up before putting something on the market.

I was thinking something more like this: http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/344322
Fully textured city block for $150... considering the amount of work, that's pretty inexpensive, but if it sells in 50 copies, the artist may actually make enough money to cover the expense of his time and partially justify investment in software and hardware.

However, I doubt that it sold or will sell in that many copies. It would be interesting to know.

Quote - "ah yes, I hit a nerve didn't I? I never said I didnt pay for models, I have. Read my post without taking it out of context and turning it into something it's not. Content makers are greedy, with their outragous prices, 20, 30, 40 dollars for models is something that is just pure greed and I will not support those vendors. "

PLEASE! Never grab any of my free items, and never buy anything from me, ever! Your respect for my time and craftsmanship is purely disgusting!

Make something yourself.. see how many hours (in one case, working full time for 3 months!) And then set a price on it yourself. Without the content creators here, you would HAVE no 3d hobby, and you WOULD be investing the time yourself. So how much is you time worth, anyway? If you have to spend 40 hours plus a week on one item for 3 weeks of your life, how much is that time worth to you?

I know many people creating content for the poser community that are barely scraping by, and most og them have nothing priced over $25 (and even THAT is a rarity!) The biggest issues many vendors feel, is that the poser market is FAR undervalued on product pricing, and things like Daz's platinum club are decreasing the apparant worth of everyone's products.

I want to save a buck as well, and I'll buy stuff on sale whenever possible, but the difference is I DO value other people's work, and craftsmanship, and will sometimes even contact them directly, so they don't loose 1/2 of their money to a storefront website. I want them to make MORE personally then they would if I jiust bought it normally.

Truly disgusted by that opinion.

Thank you for attention.

It seems that different vendors with different background determine whether an excellent model is free or not. There is no fixed golden rule.

Please continue to design excellent models for 3D World.
Hope everyone all success.
Thanks a lot!  Have a nice day!
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