I have a question about Poser 7. i have installed and uninstalled it twice now and gone back to p5 for the simple fact that I'm having a hell of a time rendering with it.  In poser 5 I can do my renders pretty quick but in p7 everything seems to lag out real bad and takes a long time to get going. Any good settings ideas that keep good quality but speed things up some? Im really just about to uninstall again....any any any help would be appreciated or any pointers!

ray-tracing on, ray-traced shadows, map size 1024, AO unchecked, 4 bounces, irradiance 50%, 6 pixel samples, 0.2 shading rate, bucket size 32, post filter size 1, texture filtering off, normals forward, et al.

Do you want to show what your typical render settings are, please?   I take it that you are using Firefly in both.   It should work the same way in both. 

But, another thing:  I've never had a problem (of that sort) with 7, but 6 was hopeless, to begin with.   It came with an instruction to check for hardware drivers - so I did.   Nothing was found, but Poser 6 couldn't render anything for me.   Just before launching a home-made ICBM towards Curious Labs (as they were), I ran a new check for drivers.   That time, there were new drivers and they fixed the problem.

You shouldn't have to re-install Poser to fix anything.   I know it's a common recommendation around here, but it's like saying, "Dirty windows?    You need a new house!"

I found P6 faster than P5 and P7 about the same as P6.  

Do your P7 renders complete very slowly, or do they bomb out?

I never said I reinstalled it to fix anything- will try those settings. Thanks.

*I never said I reinstalled it to fix anything

*OK.   I'm not quite sure what your uninstalls were for, in that case.   Best of luck, anyway.

With the Render-settings, which measure "Miss Nancy" suggests there, you get a result, which can tempt those the joy in Poser.

Morgano, I was switching between versions and Ive been continually changing my mind about Poser 7. So I removed it and tried it again months later. Im sure there are many poser users who know what i mean. Anyhow, back on the track. Gonna try some of these suggestions.

Miss Nancy ? I am not seeing these settings you mentioned anywhere...just a few of them. This is under render settings right ?

For a good, basic render I use these settings. 
If I'm going for detail I'll turn off texture filtering & have the min shading rate at 0.01. At this point the render goes way slower, but with great results!

Well i need quicker. I just tried the first settings to the best of my ability and its been rendering for 10 minutes now. With no background. I need to make this happen in about 2 minutes or less like it does in poser 5 with decent quality.

2 minutes!! Forgive me, but what type of render are you after?

This is what I use to test a scene, it's quick & looks good enough to give you an idea of what's what.

I dont understand? I just make the figures without backgrounds in poser. Yes, Ive had high quality renders in 2 minutes with Poser 5.  i dont understand why poser 7 is giving me such difficulties.

Will try that out now.

If you're using pretty much the same render settings then there's definitely a problem somewhere. Have you had trouble with Poser 7 before?

One odd thing I have noticed personally is that transmapped hair takes longer to render in P7 than it did in P5, but the dynamic strand based hair seems to render quicker in P7 than P5.

Well its been 10 minutes and still going :(

I've never used P5 so I'm afraid I can't make any comparisons. To me, Poser 7 renders fasters than 6. Mind you, I'm running on a dual core now so that speeds things up as well.

Well, if you read my original post, I havent used Poser 7 much.

Propschick - Are you using the same scene for these renders, or is it slow for any that you use?

Any

Is the render bar ahead of what has actually progressed in the render?

No, seems exactly the same. It's hanging on the end of the bar too.

Mmm, doesn't make any sense this one. If it was the other way round then I could possibly understand. 
Have any settings been changed in the material room?

I havent touched the material room. i just reinstalled poser 7 in exchange for Poser 5 yesterday.

OK, you say this happens with any render. Were your scenes made in P5 or have you also made some in P7 since the reinstall?

I am doing the same thing I did in poser 5.

Would using the p4 render settings make a difference?

I've never used the P4 renderer myself but I know some people still like to use it. 
I guess at this point there's no harm in giving it a go.

Well that didnt turn out so hot. That just made poser 7 crash rotflmao

I'm no expert, but your Poser 7 does soung buggy.
Hopefully one of the experts on here will be able to give you some proper advice. I'm sorry I can't help.

Propschick, what sort of system are you running? Do you have at least 2GB of RAM? A fairly fast processor? Lots of hard drive space?

These are considerations, since Poser loves to consume system resources.

If you have ample resources, here is what I would suggest you do.

1. Go to the basic settings tab, and pull the slider all the way to the left.
2. Render from those settings
3. Move the slider up and render again.
4. Repeat until you get to a view you like, or until Poser can't handle it anymore.
5. Use the settings on the last working render to adjust the Advanced settings.

From the settings you posted, I would increase the Bucket Size, and the Min Displacement Bounds, unless you have a specific reason for having such a high displacement setting. Considering you mentioned you haven't touched the Mat Room, I'll assume you aren't doing any displacement. In that case, set the Min Bounds to a number like 1.000, to stop the render engine from trying to make those calculations unnecessarily.

HTH!

As ridiculous as this sounds, I found that my antivirus and antispyware programs I was using was causing an issue with poser. So for now on, I have to shut all that shit down before rendering. Who would have known? I didnt realize this, by my antivirus was being a major resource hog.

i finally got my 2 minute render time back. Woooooohoooooooo

Heh, these days, anti-virus/anti-spyware has become as much a nuisance as the crap it's supposed to be fighting.

Congrats on your success!

Propschick - Nice to know you got it sorted. I've been told it is a major resource hog, I just didn't think of it causing this problem.