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Subject: question about vicky 2


3-DArena ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 8:27 AM · edited Mon, 23 December 2024 at 7:56 AM

I am thinking of getting her ( I wasn't going to but..... ) before the sale is over. However, I thought I read that she is a memory hog. I'm at only 64 megs for a week or so more and am womdering if she will cause problems before I upgrade? Of course I could buy her now and wait until the upgrade to install her.....


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fiontar ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 8:37 AM

You may have trouble. Of course, you MIGHT be able to load her with out hair, clothes or other props on 64 MB, but even that isn't a given. I have 256 MB in my current set up, and once I add hair and a little clothing, it has already eaten up all the physical memory. I use a memory cleaner before launching, so I open Poser with about 210MB of physical memory free. If you have enough virtual memory, it's possible you could still work with her, but going to the hardrive for memory storage would really slow things to a crawl. She is definitely worth it, so it might be best to buy her before the sale ends and get the memory upgrade next. :-) One thing I am learning, however, is that the more memory the better. I'm adding another 256MB soon, but keep finding myself in a similar situation: "Do I buy memory this week, or order X item for poser". ;-)


3-DArena ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 8:39 AM

I'm just wondering if memory upgrades are feasible or if I should buy a new system.... I wonder how much my AMD k6 will allow me to upgrade.... LOL


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fiontar ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 9:45 AM

Depending on what you have for components, you may be able to upgrade economically. I'm on an AMD Athlon running at 1.37 Ghz, which was an upgrade from my previous Athlon 700. I then upgraded my brother's AMD K6-2 400 to the Athlon 700 and it wasn't that bad an operation. First, if it will fit in your current system, make sure you get PC 133 SDRAM for your memory upgrade. As long as your K6 uses SDRAM, which I think it would, it doesn't matter if it can't run it at 133Mhz, or even 100Mhz, it should still work at the lower speed. This will allow your memory upgrade to migrate to your upgraded system, if you go that route. :-) Athlons need an AMD approved 300 Watt power supply, so say you buy a new case and PS for $60. A new motherboard, (I recommend one using the Via KT133A chipset) is about $120. A 1.2Ghz Athlon can be found online for about $160. If that's to much right now, you could get a 900Mhz Duron for around $75, maybe less, I haven't checked in a few weeks. As long as your video card, sound card, modem and drives are half way decent, they could migrate to the new system. With out the cost of the memory upgrade, which you are going to get anyway, it's possible you could buy the needed components for not much more than $300. Unless you have experience home building systems, you might need to pay a local computer repair shop to build the upgrade for you, but this should just give you an idea of what is possible. I'll stop now. I could go on about upgrades forever. :-) Depending on what you can "salvage" from your current system for the new one, an upgrade may or may not be practical. Every item above what is listed above that would need to be replaced as well adds to the cost. Also, the labor cost of having a good tech person do the upgrade for you has to be added in... Just wanted to point out that such an upgrade from a K6 isn't automatically impractical. The improvement from a K6-2 400 to an Athlon 700 on my brother's system was incredible and you could get an even higher speed grade at current prices very reasonably. :-)


Questor ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 10:18 AM

I won't comment about upgrades because I never use AMD chips, but I will confirm that Vickie 2 is a memory hog. She's a greedy little wench and wants as much as you can throw at her. Obviously her baby sister (V2P4) isn't as greedy. If you load Vic2, then add high res textures (like those on DAZ or some of the others from people like Catherina and Syyd), plus transmapped hair and clothing (either plain or transmapped) then yeah, without some real muscle in your system it's going to grunt. If you are upgrading anyway, I don't see any harm in grabbing Vickie2 before the sale ends and before your upgrade. Even if you won't be able to play at length with her, it'll give you a chance to look and fiddle with this amazing model. I'd happily jump up and down and encourage you to buy her, but that wouldn't be entirely fair. I have a fairly powerful system to play with so I'm kinda biased. :)


melanie ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 10:53 AM

I know Vicki is a huge file, but I hadn't realized she was a memory hog. I have 128mb RAM and I've had no problems with her at all, with clothes, transmapped hair, the works. I've put her with Michael, fully dressed and with hair, together in a scene. I did an image with two men and a woman in one scene (Vicki & Michael), wearing period costumes and hair, still no problems. I guess I'm just lucky, but I would have to say that you can only try it for youself and see how it works for you. It seems like everyone has different results. Melanie


stoney54 ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 12:09 PM

I have upgraded to 512 Ram, and I am still having trouble, with Vic 2. If I load the "Up Do hair" and "Vic 2" together, it will freeze up during rendering. I really like Vic 2 and the Up Do hair but I can not use them together, I even tried rendering minus the Bump maps, it still froze during rendering. Maybe it's my swap file, it is only 60 something mb's. I am planning on getting it figured out. But 1 thing for sure it's been a challenge for me and my computer! If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated.


hmatienzo ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 1:27 PM

Running a 600 mhz laptop, 128 RAM, with 130 megs free on the drive right now. She loads and renders fine, lights, clothes, hair, the works. Of course, I halved the textures, maybe that's it. You can safely reduce textures without loss of quality... nobody really needs a size of 4000x4000. The only problem I do have is that Windows ME seems to have a memory leak somewhere... after a few renders, my space is down to zero.

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thgeisel ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 1:36 PM

to stoney54: im on a athlon 1Ghz with 380 mb ram and had the same prob!what helped me: first defrag the disc where your swapfile is , than I set the swapfile size min and max both to 500 mb manually.that helped me!I have win98 first edition on my computer.sorry , cant explain how to do it, because Im german and dont know every single menuepoint in english!!


cruzan ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 9:17 PM

i have P3800 intel with 256 meg and a 10gig hard drive that I use as virtual memory and - trust me is real memory pig. I find that if I get rid of all my trusty gator, gozilla, sidewinder, etc. (mem loads at bottom right side of start bar) that she does work a lot faster in rendering


3-DArena ( ) posted Mon, 28 May 2001 at 11:01 AM

thanks fiontar for the info, I appreciate it! I think I'll hold off on Vicky (it's only $20.00 more) since hubby just got laid off... Work is still busy for his own company (and thankfully picking up), but it's on a draw basis with no draw for another 2 weeks... Right now, my company funds are aimed at 3-D Arena and getting the upload script and store up :-)


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