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Subject: "Official" One-Use Challenge Thread


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TwoPynts ( ) posted Thu, 23 August 2007 at 3:07 PM · edited Sun, 05 January 2025 at 8:42 AM

Attached Link: Original Thread

**Olivier proposes a challenge:** Buy a cheap one-use/disposable film camera. Use it to take photos in your city (36/24 views) choose the best five pics and scan them (or when they are developed have them burned to CD). Take these five photos and make a simple collage in a vertical format, on photo atop another on a white or black background. A one line border around each image is fine, but don't get into heavy postwork -- drop shadows, etc. (Kai has a good example in the old thread) In your comments talk about the photos you took and why...share a little of your process. Title your gallery entry: "**One-Use Challenge - (your name)**" Let's see what we can do with a very minimalist hardware. Full color or black and white is fine; what is important here is the eye of the photographer, not what camera or software they use. For those with no scanning capability or limited funds, it is okay to use a digital point and shoot camera. If you do so, please follow the honor system -- each participant take no more than 36 images in AUTO mode, and no other postwork besides B&W conversion and cropping -- and of course the collage. But for this challenge we would prefer that each participant uses a disposable film camera. When you post the collage in your gallery, send me a link and I will add it to the list below. People can discuss your entry in the comments beneath your images (so leave the comments on) and in this thread as well.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


TwoPynts ( ) posted Thu, 23 August 2007 at 3:08 PM · edited Thu, 18 October 2007 at 10:51 AM

Links to participating member's images: 1. olivier158 2. Valerie-Ducom 3. mark.spooner 4. TwoPynts 5. TomDart 6. newleaf 7. auntietk 8. MrsLubner 9. mrsmark.spooner 10. L8RDAZE 11. Flannelman 12.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


olivier158 ( ) posted Thu, 23 August 2007 at 4:51 PM

well well :oD
thank you Kort for all your help :o) you are a great modo :OD

just one more word : 'Open your eye', forget the camera, just play and have a lot of fun !

Photography is a pleasure surrounded by a artistical approach of the life (i think lol).

Unleash yourself !!!! ;o)

seeya everybody :oD

Olivier


Valerie-Ducom ( ) posted Thu, 23 August 2007 at 6:37 PM

Thanks Olivier, tu as toujours de très bonnes idées / You have always so good ideas :)



olivier158 ( ) posted Fri, 24 August 2007 at 3:19 AM

i have many others :oP


TomDart ( ) posted Sat, 25 August 2007 at 7:16 PM

As a "gallery post" we have enough room to make the collage work..glad I reread the instructions.   This should be interesting. 


BibbyBear ( ) posted Sat, 25 August 2007 at 8:20 PM

Well, disposable bought, (27 exp), shots taken on my day trip out to Bath today (I have witnesses LOL!) I will try and get them developed and onto disk tomorrow so maybe, just maybe I will have mine up and in my gallery tomorrow night :scared:

Only if they're not completely useless, in which case .... good luck everyone!!! :lol:

Chrissy xx

"I don't suffer from insanity,
I enjoy every minute of it."
:lol:
CCCD Photography 
CCC Dezynz


TomDart ( ) posted Sat, 25 August 2007 at 8:55 PM

Chrissy, you are days ahead of me! LOL.     Tom.


L8RDAZE ( ) posted Sat, 25 August 2007 at 9:09 PM

Just picked up MINE....

Now to SEE if I have....THE POWER! HEHEH!

Joe






olivier158 ( ) posted Sun, 26 August 2007 at 5:47 PM

lol i'm happy you are all playing the game ! I've done my film, i will put to develop tomorrow, and i think i will post on tuesday :)

nice pic Joe !


TwoPynts ( ) posted Sun, 26 August 2007 at 5:59 PM · edited Tue, 28 August 2007 at 7:52 AM

Glad to see people participating. I haven't gotten any Site Mails about collages up in the gallery yet, but it is still early. Picked up my Kodak FunCam last night ($6) and will start taking photos soon. EDIT: Shot my film during a lunchtime walk Monday, now I just have to get it developed. LOL, I haven't put those words together in a sentence for a few years! ;']

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


TomDart ( ) posted Tue, 28 August 2007 at 7:21 PM

So, convert to BW is ok?  Or simply desaturate?  All I found was color film, either ISO 400 or 800.    All excited to get the first shots, I pressed the shutter..nothing happened. Well, back to the store to exchange tomorrow.  Digital is quicker, LOL.

For matter of interest, the lens on the "generic" version I got appears about 30mm.   Just guessing here, but if they used the "sunny 16" to get exposure I might figure about 1/125 sec, 
F/ 8.0 at 400 ISO..I think this was correctly ineterpolated, maybe not.  This seems a fair assumption for a consumer disposable.
  
For those who do this, please let us know if the lens seems close to about 30mm or something else, judging from the viewfinder view.

My prized shots await a new disposable camera.  Just wait on these beauties!   Tom.


olivier158 ( ) posted Wed, 29 August 2007 at 1:24 AM

hello Tom,

yes it's ok for desaturate ! as a said in the very first post, level and contrast are ok -> but just to correct the scan of course !

yep i thnik mine was about 30mm 800iso with flash (but there was a prob with flash, it was flashing at each pic, so i put my finger on it lolllllllll) 
yes f8@400 or f11 or f16 @ 800

i stay tuned ;o)

seeya
Olivier


Rausen ( ) posted Wed, 29 August 2007 at 10:08 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/homepage.php?userid=464594

It will be apleasure to participate, but ca you mail me telling me when the contest end? because i´ll do a photographic takes teh next week and maybe this take around 1week and a half!!!

Thank you, great idea!!!


olivier158 ( ) posted Wed, 29 August 2007 at 10:13 AM

Hello Rausen,

imho, there is no really an 'end', everybody can do that whenever he wants !

there is no competition...

so, no problem for me !

Olivier


TomDart ( ) posted Wed, 29 August 2007 at 8:26 PM

I have yet to exchange the unworking disposable cam for a new one and will do that tomorrow.  One benefit so far, with no images...I am looking at stuff as I drive to work and around town.  I look for light and composition that might work ok with an auto camera...fixed focus and fixed aperture and shutter speed.   That has stirred my eye for a deeper look into the subjects.


olivier158 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 1:40 AM

i'm happy to hear that Tom ! i hope this exercice will bring many good thing to all who participate :oD

good shooting !!!


TwoPynts ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 8:28 AM

3 entries so far, all very impressive. It is neat to see what you all are capable of doing with a very simple camera. Keep 'em coming!

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


mark.spooner ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 11:32 AM

Got my shots back last night and posted my five best shots today.  I was suprised by them I must admit and I enjoyed going back to "basics" reminded me of when I first started with a little Halina compact my Mum and Dad bought me for Christmas in 1986. 


TwoPynts ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 2:33 PM

I just posted mine. Ack, not happy with the results at all. The shots I had the highest hopes for were to blurry to post, and non of the blurs even warranted Blurstraction status. ...sigh. 👎

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


olivier158 ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 3:32 PM

cool Kort ! i go right now to see them :OD


TomDart ( ) posted Thu, 30 August 2007 at 7:38 PM

Yikes...what are you folks?  Naturals or what?  I am impressed..with only 6 shots taken with my disposable we will see now what happens.  You have upped the ante.


newleaf ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2007 at 6:18 AM

Got the camera (Fujifilm QuickSnap) just got to find the time to get out and take them now.


TomDart ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2007 at 1:42 PM

Mine is up now...not so impressive. Ugh!


TomDart ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2007 at 2:47 PM

Well, I like the shots better the second look..now to tell one on me..I took the first camera back because it didn't work.  The lady said get another one, so I did.  Then, back at her counter, she simply said, "You have to wind it first"

I did not tell her any more.


TwoPynts ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2007 at 2:57 PM

LOL Tom, funny how not having a to wind a camera becomes second nature. But I bet by frame 10 you were winding it right after you clicked off your shot. ;'] I like your shots, I guess we are all hard on ourselves.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


TomDart ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2007 at 5:58 PM

The challenge is a reason to be "spectulative" about ourselves.   With all the bells and whistes gone..the essential controls..I really did not know how my "eye" would do on a fairly quick couple of days shooting.    I did learn some stuff and am more confident in my eye that before.

One thing..one of my better ones was relegated to the scrap pile.  The collage was posted and then revisited the scrap image.  Now, I like it better than some of the others!   You might scrap the obviously terrible ones but keep the rest around to visit again before making the final selection.    Getting past the "capture quality" of the little plastic lens cams is first, get past that  thought and work on what is there.    That is how I would do it a second time..LOL>


TwoPynts ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2007 at 7:56 PM

I am thinking of trying again with my son's toy "SPY" camera. It is about the same as a disposible..fixed lens and no focusing, so it would probably return similar results. Now I am curious...

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


TomDart ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2007 at 8:06 PM

I may try again...we will see how time permits.


olivier158 ( ) posted Mon, 03 September 2007 at 2:59 AM

i'm really happy ! You guys got it ! just a feeling, no more technique. I'm curious to see more and more pic :oD

yep... wind ... and wind again :oP


newleaf ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 3:02 PM

Thank you for the comments made on my gallery posting. I must say I was pleasently surprised by the little camera. I didn't hold out much hope for it. However I think it performed very well for what it is. An Excellent challenge and one I enjoyed very much. It was not as frustrating as I first thought it might be, even Tesco Developing 'did well'.

Regards
Pat


TomDart ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 7:37 PM · edited Tue, 04 September 2007 at 7:39 PM

newleaf has joined the bunch of brave ones..or ones with enough spare dollars to do it.  My cost overall was about $15 US with processing and burned to a CD with prints.

I am glad to see another join and and am again impressed with the "one use" camera shots.

Anyone else game for this timeless challenge?  You will be glad you did it...even if none of the rest of us ever know you did.   I suspect you will find 5 images to work with slightly and post.  One of my best was overlooked at the time and is not in my collage.  Give it a try! I found this challenge very worth it even if entered into with trepidiation.        Tom.


newleaf ( ) posted Wed, 05 September 2007 at 1:25 AM · edited Wed, 05 September 2007 at 1:26 AM

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Yes indeed, memories of my very old Kodac 127 came flooding back. One thing I forgot to allow for was the difference in the view finder and the lens. Centering on the view finder is off to the side on the lens just that little bit as you can see from the  one here.  I look forward to seeing more and join Tom in encouraging others to' give it a go'. Tom do post the 'overlooked one' for us to see please


TomDart ( ) posted Wed, 05 September 2007 at 7:05 PM · edited Wed, 05 September 2007 at 7:08 PM

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newleaf, here is that shot.  I liked it because of the "old" look of the image. This is certainly no fine photo but I do personally like it better than at least one of the collage images.  

The shot is looking into the sun, peeking through the trusses of the bridge. I was surprised the image was not more silhouette in character.
Note the lens flare.

(This was also posted a few days ago in the "Post Anything" thread, the longest continuous thread on Renderosity...a fun open thread and post anyting is exactly what it means.)


auntietk ( ) posted Wed, 05 September 2007 at 11:29 PM

Okay you guys - I hope after all this chat about your disposable cameras, you remembered it was originally said "okay to use digital if you don't have a scanner!"  Well, my new supercomputer is awesome, but incomplete - no printer/scanner/nothing!  So I went out today with my digital camera, left it on "Auto" and took 24 shots.  No zoom, no macro, no nothing.  I have to confess, I usually leave it on "Auto" anyway, 'cause I really don't know very much about my camera yet!  (Konica/Minolta DiMage Z3)  Will you still let me play?  :)

"If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough."  ...  Robert Capa


olivier158 ( ) posted Thu, 06 September 2007 at 2:38 AM

lol of course ! let us see your work :oD


auntietk ( ) posted Thu, 06 September 2007 at 8:48 AM

T'anks!  :)  My collage is done, and ready to go. 

"If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough."  ...  Robert Capa


olivier158 ( ) posted Thu, 06 September 2007 at 8:51 AM

yihoooo ! let's see this !


TwoPynts ( ) posted Thu, 06 September 2007 at 9:59 AM · edited Thu, 06 September 2007 at 10:07 AM

Luv that bridge Tom and nice set autietk! BTW, I purchased a roll or Kodak Max 400 and am going to use my son's toy "spy" camera and take this challenge again. I am not even sure what speed film it is supposed to take and there is no flash, but this China special is just like a one-use camera except that you can change out the film. If anything, the one use camera seemed superior to this flimsy thing. The results should be ... interesting. :m_thoughtful:

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


TomDart ( ) posted Thu, 06 September 2007 at 5:33 PM

You can see the difference a better lens makes...with auntietk entry...but still, point and shoot with no other help.  This is a nice entry.


auntietk ( ) posted Thu, 06 September 2007 at 8:16 PM

Thanks, guys!  I had a really good time with this, and I loved seeing what everybody came up with!   (I know there are some folks still thinking - I'm hoping for lots more on this!)  The mental/creative challenge was what stretched me.  I take photos on "auto" all the time, so I didn't have to make any adjustments there - just had to remember to not use zoom or macro!  This was a great idea, Olivier!  I'm starting to feel confident enough with the camera that I can go out looking for specific things, rather than just wait until somebody wants to see something I happen to have taken a picture of.  :)  Hooray for Renderosity and all the inspiration and knowledge I've gained here!   (Does anybody know if there's a law against having this much fun?)

"If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough."  ...  Robert Capa


TomDart ( ) posted Thu, 06 September 2007 at 8:22 PM

There may be a law against so much fun..but I ignore it.   I feel the same way.


TwoPynts ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 8:02 AM

Actually, thinking more about it, in Auto mode, digital cameras do make some adjustments all by themselves. The disposable cameras have just one focus/exposure setting. Still, I am not sure how we would approximate it with a digital, any thoughts Olivier? Perhaps putting the camera in manual mode at f/8 @ 400ISO and set the focus to infinity?

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


TomDart ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 5:28 PM

I am gurssing mine was close to f/5.6 or f/8 at about 1/125, with 400 ISO film.  If manual is on the digital, not a bad idea.


mark.spooner ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 6:25 PM

I think that they usually make these cameras ISO 400 as it is a good all round film for most conditions.


TwoPynts ( ) posted Mon, 10 September 2007 at 10:41 AM · edited Mon, 10 September 2007 at 10:42 AM

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Here is one of my "misses" from the first batch. Desaturated and tonally balanced a bit, I was considering it for my gallery 1000th image, or for 1001, but decided it wasn't quite what I wanted. Figured I could post it here though. :) Still working on the my second "disposable" attempt.

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


TwoPynts ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 9:28 AM

How is everyone coming? Almost done shooting Richard? Is anyone else going to submit photos?

Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations


TomDart ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 6:51 PM

Kort, I do hope to see more.  This has been fun. I have not yet started on my seond run but will.


L8RDAZE ( ) posted Fri, 14 September 2007 at 3:38 PM

I just need to drop my cam off to get the pics processed

Yeah yeah...I tried the USB port (DOH!)






TomDart ( ) posted Sat, 15 September 2007 at 9:24 AM

I found it easier to have the shots printed and get a CD for $2 more.  The CD meant I didn't have to scan the prints.


MGD ( ) posted Sun, 16 September 2007 at 12:52 PM

Attached Link: Mini 640x480 USB Keychain Digital Camera

Greetings,

Here is another inexpensive ($7.49 +S&H) alternative ...

Would this fit the conditions of the challange?  It's fixed focus, no
exposure adjustment, no zoom, ... and, best of all, cheap. 

Mini 640x480 Keychain Digital Camera

Miniature digital camera
640x480 (VGA) or 320x240 (CIF) image resolution
300K CMOS sensor
4 MB SDRAM memory
Holds approxmately 26 VGA (640x480 resolution) pictures
     or 99 CIF (320x240 resolution) pictures
USB interface
Pop-up viewfinder
Powered by one (1) AAA battery (included)
Integrated keychain
1.5 x 2.25 x 0.5 inches (H x W x D)

Just a thought ...

BTW, a battery powered webcam such as the Logitech Clicksmart 310
might also be appropriate. 

--
Martin


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