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Subject: Where are all the Bryce artists?


mjhatch ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 7:06 AM

Name: mjhatch

Age:  43

Area:  Queensland  Australia

How long have you used Bryce?:  Bryce 4 since about 96

What kind of art do you create usually?:  *Sci/Fi, but I do live landscapes.

Would you ever move over to Vue?:  Not my cup of tea really.

What is your favourite Bryce art you have done and why? My favorite piece is always the last one I've done. Self discovery I think would be my best answer.


dhama ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 7:23 AM

Quote -
P.S. Anybody know what an "optical 8-camera Vicon Motion Capture facility" - might be when it's at home?

 

Not sure about that one, but it sure sounds like a device that is capable of those 'Matrix' style shots.


Gog ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 8:00 AM

**
**> Quote -

P.S. Anybody know what an "optical 8-camera Vicon Motion Capture facility" - might be when it's at home?

 

Sounds like something from Star Wars ;)

You might want to look here:- http://www.vicon.com/

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grasshopper1980 ( ) posted Tue, 04 September 2007 at 8:25 AM

Quote - > Quote -

P.S. Anybody know what an "optical 8-camera Vicon Motion Capture facility" - might be when it's at home?

 

Not sure about that one, but it sure sounds like a device that is capable of those 'Matrix' style shots.

Actually how they did those Matrix style shots was the result of years of insane camera setups(I guess you could basically call it a camera array since the setup had so many cameras in it) and then intense CGI.  At least that's how they did the bullets.  Everything else was done with wires.


SevenOfEleven ( ) posted Wed, 05 September 2007 at 6:27 AM

Name: **
Seven Of Eleven


Age: **
? Lifetime experiance counters down**


Area:
NYC


How long have you used Bryce?:
Started with Bryce 2 or Bryce 3d way back when with a mac.


What kind of art do you create usually?:
Almost anything except porn, Darn!
Been studying pictures of pokemon and neopets, be very afraid.


Would you ever move over to Vue?:

**Not a "purist" so I will visit. Been using Bryce skies in Lightwave pictures and Lightwave /Truespace models in Bryce pictures so if I can mix it in I will. At the end of the day, software is just a tool. Oh yeah, Photoshop for postwork too.
**
What is your most favourite Bryce art that you have done and why?
**
Powerless/The moment, not sure which one.


jojos-designs ( ) posted Wed, 05 September 2007 at 10:56 AM

Attached Link: The Lake House

**Name:** JoJo

Age: 48

Area: USA

How long have you used Bryce?: About a year, Bryce 5 and 6

What kind of art do you create usually?: Realistice scenes and landscapes

Would you ever move over to Vue?:  I'm not really familiar with the program and have no plans at present to.

What is your most favourite Bryce art that you have done and why? Probably the Lake House. It's one of the first projects that I did of this kind that I modeled almost entirely myself. I enjoy doing architecture scenes.


Cyba_Storm ( ) posted Thu, 06 September 2007 at 4:00 AM · edited Thu, 06 September 2007 at 4:02 AM

Name: Peter
Age: 46
Area: Tasmania Australia.

How long have you used Bryce?: Bryce 2

What kind of art do you create usually?: Abstract/Sci-fi**.** Or Background plates for photo manipulation.

Would you ever move over to Vue?: No. 3ds Max covers every things I want. 

What is your most favourite Bryce art that you have done and why? Galileo 7 is my fave. I love the colours, and the fact nobody has worked out how it was done.


Staticon ( ) posted Thu, 06 September 2007 at 1:11 PM

Name: Staticon

Age: A few weeks under 52

Area: UK

How long have you used Bryce?: since 2

What kind of art do you create usually?:  Whatever takes my fancy

Would you ever move over to Vue?:  No - but I am playing with Blender with a view to dumping the MicroSoft OS

**What is your most favourite Bryce art that you have done and why? Whatever I have just created. Because I have just created it. :p
**


Gog ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 3:31 AM

Staticon, I can use bryce 5 under WINE in ubuntu linux. I can recomend ubuntu as a distro, although I have also used and enjoyed Suse. That said Blender rocks and is worth the perserverance, any help fire questions away in the blender forum!

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Staticon ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 5:04 AM · edited Fri, 07 September 2007 at 5:06 AM

Quote - I can recomend ubuntu as a distro......

I have tried Ubuntu recently and must agree that it is a good distro - though I don't get on too well with the Gnome desktop. I know they do a version with the KDE desktop which I really must get around to trying out as I have preferred KDE since I first flirted with Linux a few years back.

For some reason, Suse never seems to like my PC. I can only presume it's a motherboard thing.

I am, currently, trying out some of the tutorials on the Blender site but I think it will be some time before I produce anything of my own - time is always too limited. And I will certainly seek assistance on the Blender forum should I get hopelessly stuck.

Thanks for the heads-up about WINE. I will certainly need that for my Tomb Raider level editing. :-)


Gog ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 6:13 AM

Must admit I've always used K rather then gnome (foraround 8 years now) until I installed ubuntu about 4 months ago, I flipped a coin as to whether to go kubuntu or see if gnome was as good as people say. (I also fancy trying Beryl (the vista stylee desktop) and that appears to be regarded as working much better on gnome)

The two top blender resources (IMHO) are blender noob to pro and the blender wiki keyboard shortcuts list....

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro

http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Reference/Hotkey_Map

Blender is much easier if you have a 3rd arm added and an 10002 key keyboard :).

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Staticon ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 2:05 PM · edited Fri, 07 September 2007 at 2:06 PM

Thanks for those links. :-)

Strangely, they are the two main sites I have been browsing for tutorials. We must be on the same wavelength.

I had a quick test spin on the live version of Ubuntu about a month ago (I try most of the distros they give away on Linux Format coverdisks) but still not fond of Gnome. Maybe I like being able to tweak systems a bit too much.

And I'm hoping to get a 10002 key keyboard for Christmas. :-D


SevenOfEleven ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 3:38 PM

Whats the difference between the different flavors of Unix?
Is it that some versions specialize in different things or what?


dhama ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 4:07 PM

Quote -
And I'm hoping to get a 10002 key keyboard for Christmas. :-D

 

Cool... i've been reading up on that very keyboard:

*"10002 key keyboard uses the Datagram Protocol, a communications protocol for the Internet network layer, transport layer, and session layer. This protocol when used over the 10002 key keyboard makes possible the transmission of a datagram message from one computer to an application running in another computer. Like TCP (Transmission Control Protocol), UDP is used with IP (the Internet Protocol) but unlike TCP on the 10002 key keyboard , the 10002 key keyboard is connectionless and does not guarantee reliable communication; it's up to the application that received the message on the  10002 key keyboard to process any errors and verify correct delivery."

*...Sounds like a good bye to me....... Good bye!


Staticon ( ) posted Fri, 07 September 2007 at 7:22 PM

Quote - Whats the difference between the different flavors of Unix?

With Unix, there are relatively few flavours - mainly variations introduced by various mainframe manufacturers or educational establishments to suit their hardware or requirements.

Linux is a different, though Unix compatible, OS. The diverse amount of flavours here represent various collections of software and optimisations for a large variety of platforms and applications.

For example, there are distibutions aimed at newcomers (Ubunto, Mandriva, etc.), distro's for power users, tweakers, hobbyists, musicians. Some are designed to run on older hardware, some for servers, some for desktops, some for games - in fact, if you can think of a specialist computing requirement, there is probably a distro aimed at those users already.

There are also distro's aimed at the free and open-source purists that contain no proprietry software, and others that are packed with closed source drivers and apps.

Hence the huge choice available. And the beauty of it all is that, in most cases, all it will cost you is the download time.

Plus, if you wish to modify anything (from software right through to the kernel itself), and you are able to program, then you are free to modify the code to your hearts content. The source code for most software is usually downloadable as well. And if your modifiacations are good, you can submit them back to the core teams for possible inclusion in later releases.

The only drawback is that it is not quite as easy to use as Windows - but they are working on that and have made considerable progress over the last few years. :-)


Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2007 at 12:53 AM

I'm using Ubuntu... and may have serious Wine and beowulf-like questions to ask someone more knowledgeable than me in this.....


Staticon ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2007 at 6:11 AM

I've been flirting with Linux for a few years now but still have not taken the plunge and switched wholly to it. Consequently, my tech knowledge is very limited at present. :-(

There is a good on-line resource, though. www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php They have archives of past tutorials in PDF format and a lively forum dedicated to Linux. They could be useful.

I am becoming increasingly dissatisfied with tight shackles Microsoft impose on their users so, I feel the time may be approaching to make the switch


grasshopper1980 ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2007 at 8:24 AM

I'm in the same boat as Staticon as far as operating systems go.  But I do know that Mandriva is a fairly good operating system.  Just stay away from Solaris 10, which is Unix.  It's a powerful OS made by Sun Microsystems (you know, the guys that make Java) and you can get it for free now.  Threw that in my laptop after making sure it was compatible, took even longer to install than XP.  To top that off, you basically have to manually configure Solaris 10.  Recognizes only 1 mouse,  as well.  Also could never get my audio to work.

But never go with Vista.  2 very major problems with it right out of the box that I do know of.  IPV6 is the internet protocal of the the future.  Haven't gotten there yet, we are still using IPV4.  Vista comes with IPV6 activated.   DHCP networks.  It only likes Microsoft DHCP networks because it has something call a DHCP Broadcast Flag, now you can remove that flag or turn it off by going into the registry, but then again, if you go into the registry and you don't know exactly what you are doing, you will turn you pc into a very large paper weight.  There are also other problems, many more, but I don't know what they are.  YAY Microsoft!!!!!!!  They did all of these things because your average pc user doesn't know how to find network settings or edit the registry and many other things, so that way they have to pay Microsoft more money to get them fixed.

Your best bet is sticking with XP until they make it to where you can't use it anymore, get a mac, or find a linux system that does it for you(there is a multitude of them out there).


Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2007 at 11:35 AM · edited Sat, 08 September 2007 at 11:48 AM

Fortunately I run a mixed system at my place. My laptops are all Vista, my desktops are mixed between XP and Win2000. When I run my render farm, it is usually the XP and w2k computers. I've had no problems with Vista at all. I also have Ubuntu installed on an older computer. That computer used to have Debian, and before that, SuSE. I have used other OS's, specifically Solaris, but these I never had to install on my own. They were already installed, and they behaved better than Linux at the time.

If I were to buy a new system, I would buy Vista, but if I were to buy a UNIX system, I would buy a Mac, since OS X is based on BSD UNIX.

But what I need to do now days is make a serious experiment into the realm of clustering, and in that, Beowulf clusters. This by default implies Linux, and I shall be using Ubuntu. I had to stop myself this Thursday from ordering several dual cores micro ATX's, and other hardware.. several thousand dollars. Needed more research into the software. What I really need is a HPC (high performance cluster) to run one Windows-only engineering application. I've checked out the WINE pages and they have a nice database of apps which have been tested. Unfortunately the very same app I need to make run does not behave well with WINE. So I'm looking for options. I'm disappointed there's no easy solution to implement a HPC for Windows... although ppl say there is.. but lots of pages that do specialize in beowulf how-to's are extremely biased. In the realm of business, it is not usually a decision of convenience that makes purchasing choices, but of the need. I need this one Windows app in a high computer environment. So I'm looking around for options. I'm open to go with Linux as the OS, as long as I can do what is needed to be done.


SevenOfEleven ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2007 at 1:00 PM

Thanks for the unix info, I will probably do some fussing with the unix inside the mac.

Heard something about someone doing a cluster of mac minis.
Mac minis and cheap and small. The new ones support gigabit ethernet.

Leopard yes, Vista not so much.


grasshopper1980 ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2007 at 8:51 PM

Death_at_Midnight, very glad that you have not had any problems with Vista.  I work for Mediacom in the technician support department.  To this day, I have seen only 2 out of I can't even count how many Vista machines actually get onto the internet.  I am very glad that you haven't had any problems with that.  But for the one program, since it doesn't work very well in wine, and forgive me for not knowing so much about it, but does that use an NDIS wrapper?  As I understand it, the NDIS wrapper basically allows you to use microsoft programs in Linux by using microsoft drivers with it.  Or something to that effect.

Also, I have seen the Mac OS 10 work on a PC, without having to run it through some type of emulation like you have to do (or used to) to get Windows to run on a Mac.


Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2007 at 9:03 PM

This is something of interest:

http://www.calvin.edu/~adams/research/microwulf/

Microwulf: A Personal, Portable Beowulf Cluster

Supercomputer power at $1,256.  Not too shabby.


Death_at_Midnight ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2007 at 9:17 PM

For WINE, I am not a WINE expert, and this would be the only reason I have to actually mess about with WINE... well, other than maybe putting Bryce on Linux (which will be something I would be doing on these systems).

If emulation would be the way to go to get this thing going, then I would like to know more. I looked into WINE b/c Wine Is Not an Emulator, but I am opened to suggestions even about emulation.

A friend today has mentioned virtualization.... I'm not up-to-date on virtualization in the Linux world, so I hope to hit some sites about this tonight/tomorrow.

This level of messing with Linux will be quite a learning experience for me. It's not just about installing a distribution, which I have done many times, this seems a new adventure. Some here in this forum will already know what I have been preparing to do for the last six months. I'm getting close to actually doing it. Any help, words of advice/wisdom will be appreciated.


grasshopper1980 ( ) posted Sun, 09 September 2007 at 12:19 AM

Well, the emulation I meant was when they figured out how to run XP on a Mac, they basically had to emulate the pc setup.  Now, I have seen the Mac OS 10 run on a pc, and without all of the complicated hacker/programming/rigging emulation that they had to throw together to run windows on the mac.


dhama ( ) posted Mon, 10 September 2007 at 2:45 PM

Can you please start an 'Alternative OS to Windows' thread, and put this one back on course. Thankyou.


Sophies ( ) posted Mon, 10 September 2007 at 5:45 PM

Hej dhama.
Name: Sophie

Age: HMM ;)

Area: Sweden.

How long have you used Bryce?:  Since Bryce 4 i think.

What kind of art do you create usually?: I mostly dwells in DTE and skylab.

Would you ever move over to Vue?:  I have Vue 6 PRO, but i love Bryce the most of them.

What is your most favourite Bryce art that you have done and why? I don't have so many pictures in my gallery and they are sooo old.


CrazyDawg ( ) posted Mon, 10 September 2007 at 10:13 PM

Name: CrazyDawg

Age: 46

Area: Bunbury, Western Australia

How long have you used Bryce?: Since i joined up on here

What kind of art do you create usually?: Anything i can, i'll give anything a go once.

Would you ever move over to Vue?: Maybe someday....tried Vue PLE, little confusing but am willing to learn it one day..got others i want to learn to use first though..

What is your most favourite Bryce art that you have done and why? Nothing i have posted under this nickname, Image i like i had deleted when my old account was banned(don't ask)

I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them.


 



Quest ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 1:25 AM · edited Tue, 11 September 2007 at 1:35 AM

Well, what we should all understand is we all don’t approve to be subjected to this kind of superfluous and media guided questioning. Many of us don’t mind but some do. If you really want to view our best works then you should really visit our individual galleries. But since you’re interested on whether or not the rest of us are interested in Vue…and that is your real question, I would have to say that generally here in Bryce the answer is no. I own the bastard progie and the only thing I like of it is it’s renderor for its soft and warm colors. Other than that, Bryce is it. That’s why Poser comes to Bryce for render. 

Quest


dhama ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 1:43 AM

Quote - Well, what we should all understand is we all don’t approve to be subjected to this kind of superfluous and media guided questioning. Many of us don’t mind but some do. If you really want to view our best works then you should really visit our individual galleries.
Quest

 

Those who wish to take part, do...... and those who don't, well, they do as well apparently. :laugh:

Quote - But since you’re interested on whether or not the rest of us are interested in Vue…and that is your real question, I would have to say that generally here in Bryce the answer is no. I own the bastard progie and the only thing I like of it is it’s renderor for its soft and warm colors. Other than that, Bryce is it. That’s way Poser comes to Brycer for render.
Quest

 

My question on Vue was a valid one. Bryce is excellent which is why I use it. It doesn't have advanced features like Eco systems etc. which Vue does, and which I don't have. The point of the question was to see if anybody felt Vue would be an addition to the tools we use, and nothing else. I'm sorry you felt it necesary to launch an attack in this way. But I forgive you. 😄

Quote - My opinion and as I state it.

Quest

 

And your opinion is graciously accepted. 🆒


dhama ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 1:53 AM · edited Tue, 11 September 2007 at 2:02 AM

Hi Quest, Just taken a look at your gallery, Excellent Bryce renders, specially liked High Sierras. 

'And for a note, I am looking at everyones gallery from this thread. Havn't had time to see all yet, but I will. And I hope it encourages other people to look too, since If miss some of the art when it was first uploaded others might too. And it's a good way to get to know people. 😄

Hi Sophie, I love your fairytale aspected scenes, especially I hate him.Now i have to wait for the bus again. which made me smile.

Hi Crazy Dawg, Your Lighting Test was actually better than you thought in my opinion. Your other renders are excellent too.


Quest ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 4:09 AM

Quite simply...you're full of shit!


CrazyDawg ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 5:32 AM

Quote - Quite simply...you're full of shit!

 

Quite simply...that was uncalled for Quest and honestly mate i had thought better of you, infact i never thought you would stoop so low as to give that kind of reply...

I know my reply will get a retort thats not far from your last one but hey i come to expect it now.

I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them.


 



dhama ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 11:04 AM · edited Tue, 11 September 2007 at 11:06 AM

Quote - from QuestQuite simply...you're full of shit!

 

Thankyou my dear friend, your reply was so eloquent....


alexclark ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 11:08 AM

Hrm. Is this what happens when moderators go away for a little while? dhama - I've enjoyed this thread. Its nice to find out a little bit of whats behind the names. Nice idea.


dhama ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 11:27 AM

Thanks alexclark, my thoughts exactly. 😄


Sophies ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 11:39 AM

OH NO . Why must people start uggly flame-wars ? I hate it  :cursing:  Where is AS ?  Is he beta testing Bryce 12 ?  :blink:  Thank you dhama .You have so many beautiful pictures in your gallery .


chohole ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 11:46 AM

Hey you guys, give Quest a chance, this is a bad time of the year for him.

If you are regular forum users then you will know why!

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



deadwarrior ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 11:48 AM

Is this the Bryce Forum or the Poser Forum?

"Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends, Come Inside, Come Inside."

"
Brain Salad Surgery"
Emerson, Lake and Palmer


deadwarrior ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 11:54 AM

No, I'm afraid don't know why Quest is so upset.

Quest, If my last post offended you I apologize. I was not aware of any personal problems.

"Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends, Come Inside, Come Inside."

"
Brain Salad Surgery"
Emerson, Lake and Palmer


chohole ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 1:01 PM

It's the date.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



SevenOfEleven ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 1:07 PM

Its good to have a meet and greet and see something of who is behind the icon.

I have no problems with the Vue question, its not like it does not exist.
Can't have a community of Bryce users if no one knows anybody or
we just know the mods/coords.

Doing 3d tends to be solitary, maybe we need more group projects.


dhama ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 1:57 PM

Hi Quest, I'm sorry if you are upset today. I don't know why as I haven't seen any of your other threads, but i'd just like to say that the add friend invitation is still open if you are interested. I am not offended by your posts. What do you say? 😄


chohole ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 2:01 PM

SevenOfEleven.............the monthly challenge used to bring us all together, but that seems to have got derailed slightly just lately.

Dhama..........as I said check the date, and just remember, some people have more reason then others to remember.........nuff said.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



deadwarrior ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 2:37 PM

Thanks chohole. Now I remember Quest's posts.
Very bad day for all of us.
Worst for Quest.
Depressed too.
LACFD Firefighter/HazMat. Retired

"Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends, Come Inside, Come Inside."

"
Brain Salad Surgery"
Emerson, Lake and Palmer


Quest ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 3:36 PM

My sincere apologies to all, Dhama especially to you, there is no excuse. Crazydog you’re right, I’m sorry. Deadwarrior, love your work. Chohole, thank you. 

Quest


chohole ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 4:45 PM

Quest, there is no need for thanks, I know just what you must be going through, today of all days.

I only lost my job through the events of  6 years ago, you lost much, much more.

Plus of course you were there.

My thoughts were with you today as I watched coverage of memorial events in the UK.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



dhama ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 4:59 PM

In the circumstances there is no need for apologies my friend, I just hope each year brings you less pain and grief. 

Om Mani Peme Om..............*


CrazyDawg ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 9:23 PM

Quest i remember the date well. I know a lot of people hurt stil due to it and i'm sorry mate i had forgot about you on this date.

Ok that said i would like to put a couple of questions forward and these can be answered by anyone or all if you like.

1, where has the family feeling this forum had when i signed up on it gone..you could come on here at anytime and you would see wip's, comments, little jokes made by regulars and new members..it seems to have gone and even though i don't post much i miss that.

2, where are the old brycers gone, people like drac, drawbridge, bryster..the list goes on, not seening them much here as well, gee i remember when they would come on and have a dig at each other as well as help others with images they were working on...have they all gone over to carrara or some other program.

I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them.


 



Incarnadine ( ) posted Tue, 11 September 2007 at 9:29 PM

Some of us are still here. A lot have moved on to other programs and places though.

Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!


dhama ( ) posted Wed, 12 September 2007 at 12:22 AM

Forums are like travelling. You see a nice spot and stay for a while, but eventually everyone must move on.

Bryce has been around for a long time, and there has been a large gap between releases. Unfortunatly some people wanted more power and perhaps changed to 3DS , Maya, Vue, Carrara, this list goes on. 
I used Bryce back in the early days, but for me I went on to write music instead and moved away from 3D. But the free Bryce 5.5 got me interested again and I just had to buy 6.1 at the very reasonable price.
I'm not stuck with Bryce though, if I found something that I thought would improve my art, then I wouldn't hesitate. Lets hope Bryce 7 with its 10,000 trees etc. gets here sooner rather than later. 😄


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