Sorry - I forgot to ask if Vista is now worth purchasing for use with Poser 7 & Vue 6 - 64bit Version

Cheers,

John

You might want to wait on Vista as there will be a Service Pack 1 release in November.  At least that is the timetable that Microsoft has stated for the Official Release, not the Beta which is out right now.  Might make a nice Christmas gift for yourself.

I have been using Vist 64 with Vue Esprit 6 and several of the modules, and Vista hogs the memory but all in all I like it better for all of the newer features than XP.  I do not have Poser 7, but have a lot of Poser 4 content that works okay.  

That said, I stil have another computer with XP on it just in case it all goes sour.

Works ok mostly, I use it with Vue6Inf, Poser 6 and 7 and photoshop CS3.
The only issue I have is tool tips not showing in Vue but I don't know if it's a Vista thing, a graphics driver thing or a Vue thing!
It doesn't stop me using it though, that's what the pdf is for [LOL].

My experience is that Vista64 is about half and half, i.e., half improvement and half annoyance (and in a couple of respects, actually broken (I think, at least in comparison to XPSP2)).

You may find it okay for Vue 6 and Poser 7 use -- although all recent Vue 6 releases seem a bit picky about hardware in any case -- but if you hope to use it (Vista64) for very much else, I think I'd wait at least until SP1 has been released and has more or less proven itself.

I started to make the move to Vista64 a couple of months ago. It's been relatively okay, but if I'd known what I know now, I think I'd probably have waited another 4 to 6 months.

I have Vista 64 and it occasionally BSOD on me when I'm doing nothing. I'd say wait a bit before buying it.

What means BSOD ? (french speaking person here)
I read all thread about Vista64bits and graphics soft since i plan to buy a new computer in next january-february

Blue Screen Of Death = BSOD

Service pack 1 for Vista should be coming out about that time frame. Also, I know that MS is continuing to sell XP for another few months.

Microsoft will support XP for another 7 years possbily 10 depending on how Vista and SP1 sell over the Holiday.  Most businesses did not make the changeover to Vista and MS took a big financial hit.  So, at the moment they are trying to figure out how to promote Vista and are hard at work cleaning up the code.

If you are to buy a new computer with Vista installed from a good retailer you should not have any troubles in general.   

The Blue Screen of Death is usually not a bother in Vista as it was in XP.  It usually signifies there is an incompatability with a driver or a piece of hardware.  This is very common for those who update over XP and or on an older computer.  No e-mails, I am not bashing old comps.  

Vista is geared for the newer hardware, prefereably systems that were put on the market in the last 2 and better if one year.  If you have a little tech knowledge Vista is easy to work with, but if you are to buy so that you can run 3D software then Vista is a memory hog, and so you want at least 4 gigs of fast ram, and if you can swing the cost get a Quad Core if you are running Vue Inf.  

If you are concerned about Vista you can buy a computer with XP installed and then install Vista later when you feel the need.

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The Blue Screen of Death is usually not a bother in Vista as it was in XP.  It usually signifies there is an incompatability with a driver or a piece of hardware.  This is very common for those who update over XP and or on an older computer.  No e-mails, I am not bashing old comps.  

That's not necessarily true. My laptop is a brand new HP dv2221 and it BSOD with Word 2007. I put Vista Ultimate on this, no upgrades. MS stuff isn't compatible with itself. ;)

HP is haivng a lot of troubles lately with drivers, so I am not suprised.  Again, BSOD's are not as destructive or damaging to the Vista system as they were in NT or XP.  As for Word you should be able to recover you work and the problem may not be is MS but the hardware or Hp drivers.  I also have Word and Vist 64 on a system I built for Vista, and I do not have the problems you speak of. 

Vista or MAC is the only option for the future, and 3D software will function and run better than XP, which will not be able to keep up in the near future.  The choice is up to the user to do their homework and find out as much as they can about the system they will purchase and the software they want to run.   The more informed the better the choice you can make. 

e-On is making every effort to create the next generation 3D software, and the user will need a machine that can support all of those improvements, should you want keep up with the big boys.
 

I still dont get why anyone would want to torture himself with Vista - i mean what for? My XP is running fine and unless i really really have to i dont see why i should get Vista. It just slows down computers, makes many applications slow or not working at all and bugs me with nasty security notices. Doh!

My Tip: Forget Vista, use XP and you'll be a winner.

Quote - I still dont get why anyone would want to torture himself with Vista - i mean what for? My XP is running fine and unless i really really have to i dont see why i should get Vista. It just slows down computers, makes many applications slow or not working at all and bugs me with nasty security notices. Doh!

My Tip: Forget Vista, use XP and you'll be a winner.

Winner? For now? Yes. But sometime very soon? Not likely.

I sympathize with the sentiment, but the fact is, Microsoft will stop security updates for XP sometime in the near future. Other software developers will increasingly move toward Vista and do the same with (i.e., stop releasing security updates for) old XP compatible apps in the next couple of years. That means known security issues in XP and related software will not ever be fixed, and those known vulnerabilities will become very common knowledge to those inclined to take advantage, and that means your computer will be increasingly vulnerable to criminals, malware infections, etc.

And of course new hardware, development frameworks, and all such capabilities in general, will be increasingly supported in Vista, and less and less supported in XP, i.e, performance and capabilities should continue to increase substantially as Vista matures. Not so much, XP.

So you and everyone else using XP should be relative winners for, oh, about the next year or so. Maybe. But even forgetting any performance advantages, as malware has increased about 175% over this same period last year, and the rate of increase does not currently show any signs of slowing ... well ... security, at least as much as performance, is likely to become a pressing issue for many.

Well more companies are going back to installing XP and Microsoft are releasing more serial XP  numbers for manufacturers as not enough in circulation.
And in 3 years time Microsoft will release Vienna or windows 7 if they can make up their mind on name, even if their some hiccups in it.
Ill stick with XP 32 and XP 64 then if i have to update windows i ca bypass vista straight to Vienna or 7 whatever they call it.
And service pack 1 wont be like pack 2 for XP, as vista sp1 will contain only patches and other fixes, no extra software.

I have been using Vista Ultimate 64 since it came out along with Vue 6 Infinite 64 and it works like a dream.  So much so I have 3 of my computers running on it now.  However, I can't speak for games and things like that as I only use them for rendering, the occasional letter and a bit of post-working in photoshop. 

Quote - Well more companies are going back to installing XP and Microsoft are releasing more serial XP  numbers for manufacturers as not enough in circulation.

As long as security threats continue to grow, most "XP companies" will move back to Vista fairly soon if it proves itself the more secure solution, or so I believe.

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And in 3 years time Microsoft will release Vienna or windows 7 if they can make up their mind on name, even if their some hiccups in it.
Ill stick with XP 32 and XP 64 then if i have to update windows i ca bypass vista straight to Vienna or 7 whatever they call it.

Power to you ... but I remember a lot of similar sentiments for the first year or so after XP was released and XP caught on anyway.

And Microsoft was rather over the originally stated Vista release deadline, so ... for the time being ... I can hang on to my doubts about Vienna being released in 3 years, can't I?

Yep! I did not buy XP until SP2, stayed with ME because the software companies would not update my old graphic software to XP and it would not work in XP.  Had no choice, had to swim with the tide, or drown.  

Do a little checking on Vista SP1 before you trash your current system; even Microsoft is not making any great hue and cry over it. As near as can be told, VSP1 is basically nothing but all the incremental updates shoved into one executable, with a few tweaks added. No major changes in the way things work. And the next OS is starting the same way as Vista and XP did; thin client model (a la Citrix) and offsite storage on coolio MS servers, and hey, we'll let you pay to access your data! Ain't that sweet of us? Corporate clients have been paying extra to get Vista -removed- from the hardware they've been buying for nearly a year. Keep that in mind before jumping into the latest and greatest....

Microsoft has stated after the vista fiasco they will release windows 7 in 3 years time come hell or high water.
Vista 32 and 64 has same aggro as XP home and pro, where pro was more secure than home.
Vista 32 is cut down version of 64 and as more 32 vista out their software houses will release drivers for 32, and Vista 64 as smaller base will have less support to 32 but!!!!!!!!!,  Vista 64 wipes the floor with Vista 32.
Vista 64 has higher security than 32 and unlike 32 the 64 version has between 1 to 256 boot sectors to start windows from, it means every time you turn comp on windows will randomise between those numbers where to boot windows from.
So the advantage unlike Vista 32 is anyone trying download Trojan to boot sector are screwed as if they install to sector 1 a Trojan, windows has another 254 boot sectors to choose from.
Do love the way Microsoft treat certain windows users as peasants/peons in the security for higher windows versions.

Quote - Microsoft has stated after the vista fiasco they will release windows 7 in 3 years time come hell or high water.

Hmm. What if it's hell and high water?

Anyway, I'm using Vista64. There are a few annoyances and a few incompatibilities, but it really ain't half bad.

I've never been one to bash Microsoft, and I've never been one to praise them either. Seems to me they could do better, but they could also do worse.

I think I'll just bow out of the discussion now (famous last words) and wait and see ...

I got Vista Ultimate 64-bit on a new laptop the first week it was released. On the plus side I've found it more stable than XP. It also has a lot of nice new features. For example, if a program crashes, Vista automatically tries to fix it. If it can't, it often will give a direct link to new drivers, etc. on a 3rd party site. I have XP on another computer and it now drives me crazy. However, much as I like Vista, I'd never try to upgrade it on an XP computer. Getting it on a new computer avoids most of the problems folks are seeing with Vista. On the minus side I'm not sure I'd get the 64-bit version of Vista again. In fact I've just gotten a new desktop with Vista and made sure it was 32-bit. Support for 64-bit has been very slow, which isn't the case with the 32-bit version. I've written a number of places asking for 64-bit support for programs and add-ons, but usually hear back that it's not worth the time and effort for them to provide something that has so few 64-bit users. That's even true for the Microsoft fingerprint reader! For me the extra security of 64-bit has been wiped out by the lack of 3rd party support for it. On the SP1 issue. I'd read that MS never intended to have SPs for Vista, as they were automatcially updating users computers as they went along.(No more manual updating in Vista.) Thus, there'd be no reason for a SP. Well, so many folks were waiting for the mythical SP1 to go to Vista, that MS decided to make one out of the updates to boost sales. As far as Vue, 64-bit has been a bit of a mixed bag. Vue is one of the few programs that has a special 64-bit version. For the most part it takes advantage of 64-bit, but I've found odd quirks evidently not present in the 32-bit version. Tech support has jumped on all my bug reports, so they do fix them fairly quickly. My only current problem is Vue crashing when trying to import some (but not all) .obj files.

You should try and stick by 64 bit because it's the future no question. As software demands more and more memory [like Vue6Inf] then 64 bit is the only way to go and ultimately peeps will move over to 64 bit simply because of the demands of new software.

I also am getting some odd things happening in Vue6, tool tips not showing and crashes when importing lightwave or obj files, pretty much like yourself!

I am very happy on the whole with Vista Ultimate 64!