I'm a beginner with Poser4 and I was just wondering how you can pose clothing with character poses. What I'm saying is, say I've got two figures, one is a dress and the other is Eve. Is there any way that I can pose both at the same time by linking certain parts of the dress to certain parts of Eve's body or something? If this is in the manual, I don't have one, so I can't look at it. Thanks if you could help.

What you want to do is be sure that the dress is selected then on the tool bar figure> conform to > then select figure one this way once you pose the character the clothes will pose as well

I'm sorry. This might be unfair, but it's a sad fact of life that when I see "If this is in the manual, I don't have one" I automatically get suspicious. Could you offer an explaination for the lack of a manual, to quell the suspicious sorts who automatically think, "Pirated copy" at times like these? Thanks in advance! Mark

Corblet, those folks who bought 3DWorld magazine a few issues back got a free copy of Poser 3 on the cover CD, which doesn't come with a manual. This could be the case. Melanie

No, my excuse is, my friend burned me an extra copy from her's so she has the manual and I don't. So it isn't "exactly" a pirated version, as it was paid for. It's just a duplicate version. Would you consider that a pirated version?

Yes it is actually. When you buy a copy it is for your own private use. What your friend did was duplicate and distribute. That's piracy.

Hehehe, that's a text book definition of piracy... so, it is "exactly a pirated version". Just found the thread a bit humorous.

Astounding. I wonder what he would consider piracy.

The way I see this one, it was an obvious case of naivity here. Jks was obviously not aware or he wouldn't have openly admitted it. I'm just happy to see that everyone here is keeping a level head about it and not giving him too bad a time. I think he gets the picture. Everyone is entitled to a mistake now and then without being publicly lynched. I buy all my software (usually directly from the manufacturers) in order to take advantage of upgrade offers and get technical support that you otherwise would not get. I want my own registered copies of everything for that reason. Yes, there are people out there who will always just want a free ride through life and will steal everything they can get, and those folks are ususally pretty obvious, but on the other hand, there are other people who just genuinely make a mistake. His friend was probably just trying to be nice by giving him a copy. This happens sometimes. Friends have offered me copies of things, but I've politely turned them down. They're not criminals, just naive and trying to be generous. He should have privately asked that friend this question, not a public forum. On the other hand, how many honest people here have taken advantage of Napster? IMHO, that's piracy, too. The music artists don't get paid for their music that is freely distributed over the Net. Isn't that warez? Anyone here who flames people for having illegal software should destroy all their Napster music. Oops, sorry. I'm feeling a bit menopausal this morning. Please forgive my snippiness. :) Melanie

Good points all, Melanie, and I can see the value in this thread not having become a lynching party. My art and my software are inextricably linked and I just get very twitchy at the thought of the many late nights and the certainty people steal my work. I like my lifestyle, and that takes people paying the piper! ;-) Oh, just my own soap box: I've never visited Napster, not even to look. I'm an amateur musician but some of my family are in the business and that sort of service is on my boycott list. Probably none of them will ever become rich or famous with their music, but knowing the hard work that goes into those sounds I just have to honor that. Cheers! Mark

Aw shucks, I sez we lynches'em just for fun!

Alright, I think I get it now. I just always assumed that it was really only piracy if you downloaded it from one of those warez sites. On a side note, I used to use Napster (when it worked), and I still pay for my CDs, I just download CDs that aren't available at my music store or aren't even manufactured anymore (like Pushmonkey's first CD, "Maize"). Of course, if I'm just looking for one song from a CD, I'll get that instead of buying the entire CD. And as far as you musicians out there, I don't blame you for being against Napster. I figure you'd like to make a decent living off of your music, and if they actually do make a working CD that is 100% Un-copiable, and still plays music (is that possible?), then you should go for it and use that type of CD to advance your music career. I for one am about freedom. When I start programming, I'll have people pay for a few of my programs, but most will be cheap or free. If they can't handle the minimal fee, they can download it from a warez site. I don't like warez sites because of all the porn that pops-up. But, I'm rambling now, so I think you get my point. I didn't think that I was committing a crime by getting a copy of my friend's Poser4 and I do pay for software about 98% of the time. ~JKS

Ok, can't fault you for your candidness. (though what you are saying is still tantamount to saying "When I go in a store I only shoplift two percent of the time"). And perhaps the zealousness of the responses seems excessive or a little holier-than-thou (heck, I must admit I've got shareware that has run past the evaluation period so I ain't no saint) but most of the folks here love this software in particular and know that Curious Labs is still just a teeny-tiny company struggling to become profitable. No profits = no new Poser developments, so its in our own interest to jump on piracy with both feet. You sound like a reasonable sort, so we hope you'll be buying your own copy and pitch in supporting the folks that provide us with our toys. Durn... I really wanted to lynch somebody...

I intend to as soon as I get enough money. But first I need to get a job.