hello everyone,i am curious to know how many people use poser as a hobby and how many people use poser and other 3d programs to earn a living? lets share what we all do with our creations? with me its a hobby (and still quite a new one) but if their was an avenue open to make money id sure like to know :)

Hobby for me - I'd love to earn money with it but I have a day job that pays the bills (allegedly)

Hobby. But I spend lots of time using it  these days that I wish I were being paid by the hour!  LOL

I do Poser and artsy type of 3D for a hobby, and engineering (land development) related 3D at work.

Both, although I tend to use Photoshop more for the paid stuff and Poser more for fun.

I've already got a really good job, so I just do poser (and photoshop) for fun.

Both

A little bit o' both ;)

Job

Hobby. I hope to make some money in the future to pay for my Poser habit.

for me it's a hobby, although I'm looking into the possibility of doing book illustrations

A little of both for me.

Both.

job and livelyhood for me

Generally for hobby, but occasionally I can use it for my job, when I have to make some 3D-visuals.

regards,

Bopper.

As a job - it's a great way to starve to death. 
Like web page designers a few years ago- everybody wants your skills but very damn few are willing to pay for it.

Keep your day job!

As a merchant here- straight talk
3 out of 4 don't have enought in monthly sales to get the 35 dollar min check cut.

Job.  I use poser as a base / model and use digital airbrushing to complete compositions.  I sell my artworks in a gallery.

Hobby for me. Would love to be good enough one day to produce digital art for work.

Quote - As a job - it's a great way to starve to death. 
Like web page designers a few years ago- everybody wants your skills but very damn few are willing to pay for it.

Keep your day job!

As a merchant here- straight talk
3 out of 4 don't have enought in monthly sales to get the 35 dollar min check cut.

Don't know about being a merchant but I agree with the rest of it. So glad I have my pension...LOL!

Quote - As a job - it's a great way to starve to death. 
Like web page designers a few years ago- everybody wants your skills but very damn few are willing to pay for it.

Amen!

Just to be totally confusing...it's my hobby, but the reason I started using it (after having V2 on a magazine cover-disk for years) was seeing it used professionally in a 3D studio where I was doing some contract web work.  Although the main apps in the studio were Maya and Max, they also used Poser, Bryce, etc. for specialised bits and pieces.  Seeing what they did with Poser characters postworked in Photoshop is what gave me the 3D bug.

Quote - As a job - it's a great way to starve to death. 
Like web page designers a few years ago- everybody wants your skills but very damn few are willing to pay for it.

Keep your day job!

As a merchant here- straight talk
3 out of 4 don't have enought in monthly sales to get the 35 dollar min check cut.

Quoted for agreement

But I use poser rigs as needed in my Videowork
but never use poser itself for any final output

As a side job.
I work with writers and other various folks needing models for story lines, games, ads.
Pagan Artist hit the nail on the head for merchants though.

Started as therapy, now an insane obsession - but I don't use Poser to make money.

Job, I actually eek out an ok living creating content, but it takes long hours of work to do so thats for sure, if I divided up my income, by an actual hourly rate It would probably make me want to go out and get a regular job again. Its the fact that I can create whatever comes into my head and so far people actually seem willing to pay for my work for the most part, that makes me stay in it.

Both.  My main income (which is far below minimum wage any way
you figure it!) comes from courseware that's partly Poser animations
and partly C programming.  I'm starting to get a measurable return
from selling actual Poser content, though ... enough to pay the electric 
bill on average.

Ditto wdupre's comment, in other words.

Eternal Hobbyist here, I don't have the talent to cut it as a Merchant.

Job:) <------- Starving Artist :D

definitely a hobby - I couldn't be a merchant for toffee (and anyway I loathe toffee!)

Sheila

Definitely hobby.  Make friends and impress the family.  Of course now the family wants to know if I'm actually going to DO anything with it.  :D

Both - and I also use how the Poser market works (busness models micro payments, online shopping, ethics etc etc) in the degree I'm studying for. 

yeah.. both!

Purely hobby, but I have written two Powerpoint presentations which used poser renders of vehicles. I do know someone who uses at least Poser content as a professional graphic artist.

Both for me and I also have a full time job as well.

Job and hobby. It's hard to make a decent living at it because you have to work overtime hours to get a part time pay :)

I don't think anyone would do this for the money but for the enjoyment.

• Rick

It's a hobby for me, though my hubby swears its an obsession. Wouldn't mind making money doing it but there are too many people in the market and most are more familiar with the program and come up with better images than me.  maybe by poser version 40 I'll be better.

Attached Link: But it beats the day job ;)

hhhhhmmmm some rather interesting feedback there. i am quite surprised the merchants arnt doing that good :( really it has confirmed for me that there is not a great deal of money to be made on the internet for the average man/woman. as quoted above about web designers .....its so true. i learned for years doing web design and it is very hard to make a good living from it. thanks everyone :)

My nightmare

Quote - My nightmare

I know that feeling.....

It's my passion !!!

My Job.. but I do not get to play with it for fun too much!

FWIW, Graphics is my job (well, hardware for graphics), though there are a few programmers @ work who have and use Poser regularly as part of their job description (and Modo, and 3DS Max, and Maya...)

/P

Both.

Quote - hhhhhmmmm some rather interesting feedback there. i am quite surprised the merchants arnt doing that good :( really it has confirmed for me that there is not a great deal of money to be made on the internet for the average man/woman. as quoted above about web designers .....its so true. i learned for years doing web design and it is very hard to make a good living from it. thanks everyone :)

Both here.

As for merchants not making much. I don't do so badly, but I've been around since the Marketplace first opened. You'll find the one's who do really well are the ones who don;t like to talk about it:)

Hobby for now...
(second) Work as a future dream (I hope)...

It's currently a hobby for me, but hopefully I can turn it into something big.  I'm surprised that so many are making very little money with it.  Hopefully poser will get a big boost with the younger digital generation coming up.

I know people that make about $300 a month making pixel stuff and my goal is to double that. I just have to find the right way to package poser art.

Quote - I'm surprised that so many are making very little money with it.

I'm not.

Right now the top of the page tells me that 2700 people are on Rendo. A quick peek at "Who's Online" shows that 1800+ of them are "Visitor", meaning that they aren't gonna be buying anything - no way, no how. About ~980 are 'members'... and of those, I'd say (judging by metrics from any other online store of this type) that maybe 200 are cruising the RMP at this particular time.

Now, with those ~200 or so, they get to choose from among 4,000+ (or more, prolly more) items in the RMP. Guess what your odds are as a merchant? If you have a new, hot item (and it isn't being P2P's all to Hell), you're lucky to make a handful of sales per day, at most. More to form, you'd average one or two each day, if you're lucky (some get a couple dozen, some get none, and that curve is awfully slanted towards the "none").

Unlike days of yore, your odds today... suck. OTOH, Rendo makes money with every sale, no?

/P

To carey on with Penguinisto supporting numbers.
2000 plus merchnants, Rankings in the 500 are just barely makeing the 35 dollar min. That means that the reamining 1500 or so are NOT makeing the min. Thus 3 out of 4 don't make anything.

Numbers do tell stories.

Wow.. with those odds I hope people will still create content.  It looks like I'll really have to put my business knowledge to work.  I guess there is a such thing as too much competition. 

If I find the gold mine. I'll post my success in this group after I have gotten a good foot hold in the new market. ;)