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Poser - OFFICIAL F.A.Q (Last Updated: 2025 Feb 16 10:02 pm)
Don't feel bad. It happens all the time here and elsewhere. Evidentily a lot of merchants use some sort of software program to package their products and mat files, etc, that saves the path on the merchant's computer instead of just :runtime/librairies/ pose etc. I have had products that have the disk drive letter of the merchant's PC. This SHOULD NOT get by the RR testers, but it does all the time. I use the free Crimson Editor instead of Notepad, but Editpad Lite also works well to do find and replaces. I have IM'd the merchants and even explained how to fix it themselves manually, to no avail. Some really get insulted. I worked for RDNA as a tester for a couple of works (no pay - it's volunteer) and they make you test everything over and over. I had no time for anything else. Other stores do not seem to be so picky, but they should be. There is one merchant here who to this day has never fixed a product I bought even though I contacted the admin and the merchant, and even explained to her how to fix it. Needless to say, I will NEVER buy anything from that person again. ON the plus side, I learned a lot about file paths in Poser and how to fix things myself. I am from the old days of hand-coding - so all these nifty new programs for doing web sites and so on are just icing on the cake. Younger folks rely on these WYSIWYG programs and have no clue how to fix things by hand. Shame on them, LOL!
C:My DiskApplicationsPoserRuntimeCharactersMyProductsMyCharacterMyNameWillLiveForeverMeMe2MyForumsMyReplies Don'tcha just love merchants who litter your drives with... folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folder?
Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things! ; )
Er, I have a question on this subject: Why hasn't someone come up with a "developers kit" that has the file structures, a template for the readme, and an autoloader/autoinstaller much like the, er, DAZ folks use? I am sure that while no one is getting rich creating content for Poser or D|S, if the package were reasonably priced, those who do derive an income from their artistic endevors would appriciate something of this sort. And, if they claim the income, at least here in the U.S., it is tax deductable as a business expense.
Just a question.
*" and an autoloader/autoinstaller much like the, er, DAZ folks use?"
*Many of us don't like .exe for installing. I use a dummy file for Daz so I can weed out the extra crap but your screwed if it needs to find a product before opening. Zip files are simple, the easiest to open and place what you want where you want.
Merchants should know what thier doing and these path and folders should be done right. They should also not get past testing if done wrong. But, the store won't do anything about the !!!~~~ problem, I can understand why absolute paths are missed. My guess would be, they, as in the testers, have everything installed on C drive so the file load fine.
A simple solution for the testers, use a different drive for the main runtime and poser will tell them there is a problem.
I extract everything into dummy folder so files zipped with additional one folder above proper structure are not an issue, and then edit things like version number or messed up texture paths. Errors in commercial products are not that often (merchants and testers do their job correctly in most cases), but in freebies are way too common. I recently installed something and was absolutely stunned that the .cr2 had no problems with texture paths ^^'
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Most commercial products I bought worked just fine. Occasional errors didn't hurt much, but - I despise the
*~quoting elfwine~
C:My DiskApplicationsPoserRuntimeCharactersMyProductsMyCharacterMyNameWillLiveForeverMeMe2MyForumsMyReplies
Don'tcha just love merchants who litter your drives with...
folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folderwithin folder?
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Since April 07 I'm reinstalling all my Poser Stuff on a new machine, item by item, manually, by hand, changing each and every folder name to something more logical and easier to find, getting rid of tons of !!!!! and even more tons of folders within folders - well I try to reinstall at least the newest and most used items and use a backup copy of my old runtime when needing other stuff, or it would take me until 2037 to get ready - if ever.
Quote - I extract everything into dummy folder so files zipped with additional one folder above proper structure are not an issue, and then edit things like version number or messed up texture paths. Errors in commercial products are not that often (merchants and testers do their job correctly in most cases), but in freebies are way too common. I recently installed something and was absolutely stunned that the .cr2 had no problems with texture paths ^^'
/v4/new/
/V4/Runtime/
That's how I do it. I have a V4 runtime (and V3/M3/David/SP/ etc etc) which has a /new/ folder in it. Everything gets installed into that, and then I shove it where I want it in my libraries.
Lets me weed out the dumb "Weblinks" folders and rename any readme.txt files to productnamereadme.txt (That's one I absolutely hate)
Oh, and I can delete the P4 files as well if there are any.
Silke
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I can appreciate wanting to sell a product in the Marketplace. Who doesn't want to make money? However, before you do, might I suggest an investment? For a modest amount of money (which you'll get your own use out of) you can get CorrectReference or a similar product (if one exists).
And then, and this is the cool part, you can do neat things like run it so your brand spanking new product doesn't have abolute references to textures and geometries and the like, and that way I don't have to spend a bloody hour trying to fix everything because likely I won't have my textures in my W:PoserStuffMyRuntimeRuntimeTexturesIAmCool folder! And then I won't curse your name when I have to fix all the bleeding references myself.
Thank you, and have a nice day.