I installed a new 500GB internal drive, so I have 2 drives. 200gb and the 500gb. I installed xp 64 on the new drive. Thought it was cool how it asked what version I wanted start up. LOL

No sound, no vid card no ethernet. Figured out the sound and vid, need to find the 64 bit versions of hardware and drivers. Looking good. But.

I still can't get my ethernet working. I have phone modum working so I can DL the xp updates but I'm looking at around 35 hours, So that's how ever many days with a few hours at night. I need that ethernet working.

So what do I do if anything, or do I need to get all the updates first. Any advice, help or links to DLs that I need to get everything working.

Now if I end up getting all my updates done with the phone line, I guess I really don't need the ethernet. I could just boot up the 32 bit and use ethernet on that , it works fine on that side.

What am I missing here. I thought I did pretty good by just installing the new drive and formating that and getting my 64 bit working to this point. LOL. Thanks for any help here.

Why don't you just boot in 32 bits, and download and save the 64 bits Ethernet driver? Then you can boot in 64 bit and install your driver.  

I can't seem to find the xp 64 bit driver for my HP. I keep ending up with vista or MS telling me I don't have XP installed, what's up with that, so they can't help me and HP has a list of drivers but does not tell you which one is for the ethernet. It's obvious that I'm not up with all the terms to have this one problem.

Funny how I have no problems understanding the hardware , crack that puppy apart and replace or add what I need but the jargon has me a bit confussed.

Sounds like so far, so good -- my experience was similar.  What svdl said -- plus I assume that you know what your ethernet card is?  Manufacturer, etc.?  If not, then you can look the information up under Device Manager -- check the properties for your device under Network adapters.  That should give you the information that you need so that you can then do a google search for 64-bit drivers for your ethernet.

And yes, simply boot on the 32-bit side for the 64-bit ethernet driver download.  Then re-boot on the 64-bit side to install it.  Hopefully that'll fix it for you.

Welcome to XP 64.  The results are worth the effort.

BTW - I have an HP, too -- mine's a little over a year old.  I was able to locate the 64-bit drivers for my ethernet card when I installed XP 64 on a dual boot.  I don't have the links to the direct information here with me at the office -- but it should be available on HP's site.

http://www.planetamd64.com/ is a good source for all things to do with Windows 64-bit.

And, of course, I agree with svdl and XENOPHONZ on how to get the drivers and have them ready for install.  Hopefully HP isn't using hardware that doesn't have 64-bit drivers.  It is best to build your computer around the existence of such drivers as hardware manufacturers seem rather reluctant to support 64-bit systems even at this late stage.

Quote - hardware manufacturers seem rather reluctant to support 64-bit systems even at this late stage.

Yes, they do seem to have that attitude -- which is odd, IMO.  64-bit is clearly the wave of the near future.  Once you've gotten a taste of it, then you don't want to go back.

ahem Let me qualify my last statement by saying that you don't want to go back once you've gotten a taste of XP 64.  Now Vista 64......that can be a different matter. 

Thanks for the help. I think I found my problem. When I plugged my cable in, I got the 1394 connection. From what I have just been reading, that has nothing to do with the ethernet.

Figures, looks like I was looking in the wrong thing. Well, if that is the only problem I have, I can live with it. Thank you. I need a bite before I do anymore and will let you know what happens.

That's the beauty of assembling a system yourself. I picked only components that had reputable XP64 drivers.
You should be able to figure out what ethernet chip is used on your mainboard. From there, it should be possible to find a working driver.
As for XP 64 bit support, HP can be quite flaky. THere's only a beta XP64 driver for my HP all in one printer - but it works. There's also no Win2003 Server driver for that printer, but I got it to work (more or less, with a lot of hassle) using the XP32 driver.

shrug  64 bit has worked out great with my HP -- but perhaps I just unintentionally bought the right model for it.  Heh -- I even managed to get 64 bit drivers for my add-on ATI video card.  Which all goes against many of the reports that I've heard about what's possible elsewhere.

Now my Epson printer.......I haven't been able to convince that one to work under 64 bit.  Not that I've spent much time trying, but insofar as I can tell there aren't any 64 bit drivers available for my particular Epson printer model.  So.....I'm going to connect the printer to a 32 bit XP machine that I have on my network: and then attempt to share the printer from there.

Slaps forehead and yells DOH!

I just couldn't find what I need these past 24 hours or more. I broke down and used the HP support chat. 10 minutes later I was DLing what I needed, with a recommendation to not change OS and a warning that HP is not responsible for what the Nvidia site says or does to my system.

I can live with that. LOL. Computer is out of warranty anyways. Cheeper to replace parts than to extend the warranty. example. My new drive is warranted for 5 years.

All is good here now. I only have to install the apps I will use on it. Anything special I need to know with that?

Thanks for all your help and links.

Except for some older games, every application that installs and runs under XP 32 bit will install and run under XP 64 bit, in my experience.
There's only one app that doesn't work completely like it works in Win32: ActiveState Python 2.4. The PythonWin module doesn't work - a pity, because that's the editor.

Apps that I installed under XP 64 bit:
Office 2003
3DS Max 6
Poser 5,6,7
Vue 5 Infinite
Vue 6 Infinite (64 bit)
Visual Studio 2005 Express
WinZip 10.0
Adobe Photoshop 6

They all work fine.

Cool.

I'll start with my vue6I, poser and modo. Just for the fun of it, Shade too. It's 64 bit and I love the toon renderer.

I'll take my time with everything else.

Quote - All is good here now. I only have to install the apps I will use on it. Anything special I need to know with that?

Only that you should try and get native 64 bit versions of every app that you can. And stay far far away from any registry tweakers you may have been using in xp32. xp64 has a slightly modified registry that can get corrupted if you try and use a 32 bit tweaker/tool. Firewalls also need to be native 64 bit or they wont run. A/Virus software though should normally be fine even if it's 32 bit. And get SP2 for xp64 if you havent already.

Oh and enjoy the fact that most worms/virii out there, being 32 bit themselves, dont get low level access in xp64. Nor do they know what to do with the 64 bit system files that xp64 runs. So you are generally safer now then you ever were with xp32 :p

You have no idea how safe I am. I only wanted the ethernet driver for the XP 64 updates. Otherwise that computer never touches the internet. I have no need for antivirus or firewalls really.

I DL everything from my other computer, this one that I'm typing with and use it as my antivirus for the other machine. I then use a flash drive to transfer or burn a disk.

I see in earlier posts, people thought I was DLing everything with the phone modem. No. I was using this one with the ethernet to get my drivers. LOL.

Not sure about iTunes, but QuickTime definitely does not work under 64-bit Windows.  For iTunes music, you can use WinAmp as an alternative (?).

If that machine isn't connected to the internet -- then you probably don't use it anyway: but Quicktime has problems running under 64 bit.  Although I've heard that there's a workaround.  But I haven't tried it myself.  I've also heard that iTunes won't work at all under 64 bit -- but I don't use that, so it's not an issue for me.

The main 64 bit compatibility problems that I've seen have to do with peripherals -- printers, scanners, syncing with mobile devices etc..  There you might run into some difficulty -- although in my experience with 64 bit so far: the advantages of a 64 bit OS far outweigh any minor compatibility glitches that you might have.  Plus there's the fact that you've got dual boot -- so you can still run something on the 32 bit side if you have to.  Although I admit that I hate being forced to do that.  It's like taking a step backwards.

Semi-X-post with kuroyume0161.

To clarify this, there is no 64bit version of QT 7+ for windows (its mac only i believe) So the result is that no native 64 bit app can use QT. However all 32 bit apps, which includes players like mplayerc and encoders like juicer or afterfx can indeed use QT just fine, even on xp64.

And if you are having trouble finding a version of QT that will install on xp64 (though the standalone, non itunes one from apple should also work) you can simply get the QT alternative codec from here:

QT alternative

Which also has the side benefit of not installing all the extra crap that the original installer does.

Quote - Which also has the side benefit of not installing all the extra crap that the original installer does.

That's always a plus.

These days, even the Sandisk flash drive that I bought recently installs junk on your machine as soon as you plug it in.  It calls back home to mamma, and signals Sandisk to attempt to put cookies on your machine, too.

I don't even like QT. The only reason I have it is because some companies, as in Luxology and others, do all thier vidios with it. The advantage of a second machine. I watch the vids on this one and work on the other. I prefer my Divx or I use Power DVD

Now, does Poser still need QT to work right with everything. I have every version since 4 so I have always had QT installed. I never bothered to see if it was still needed. 

itunes is pretty much a waste of time here in Canada. Very limited in what you can buy. I had joined and then it sent me to the Canadian store and I couldn't buy what I wanted. They can shove that up the you know what.

I have my Vue6I installed now. Not sure it runs a whole lot faster but I sure don't have any memory problems. That's a big plus. The macine itself sure seems faster. Mind, I don't have much onthe drive. LOL.

Any other thoughts, just keep posting them.

OK, here is one I forgot to ask. Wacom tablets. I have an Intuos3. Any problems I should know?

Another one. Do you move all your content files of the apps you have installed to the 64 bit side or do you leave them in the other drive. And do you ever leave the same app installed on both and for what reasons.

No problems with Wacom, they have nice 64 bit drivers. One of the first companies to offer them in fact.

About content/projects, i use a separate HDD just for that anyways, so its just a matter of hooking it up setting paths and stuff.

And as for duplicate installs, I dont think you really need to do that. Even if you need the 32 and 64 bit versions of the same app, it's easier to just install them both on xp64. The only 32 apps that have trouble running under xp64 are those use some kind of driver for whatever reason. eg A popular such use is for licensing and if that isn't 64 bit compatible, you will have problems. That's pretty much the only reason to keep xp32 around, everything else you should install to xp64.

I keep all of my data files on a separate drive from the two boot drives.  It's accessible by both.  For me, Poser is only installed on the 32-bit side (since there is no real advantage to it on the 64-bit).  I have many apps installed on both sides - some because there are 32-bit and 64-bit versions and others for their utility (even if 32-bit only).

You probably won't be needing to go to the 32-bit side often.  If you don't have an internet connection on the 64-bit side, one way to get one is to use your Ethernet port connected to a wireless game adapter - if you're using a wireless network for doing so.

Yeah,I found the wacom 64 bit drive and it was a good thing I checked there because there are new drivers out. If you have not checked in awhile you might want to.

OK so just put everything I can on the 64 if it runs. Got it.

kuroyume, does Vue 64 access Poser even though it's on your 32 bit side?

I don't even use the internet with that computer. I only needed to get the xp updates. All drivers and extras have been Ded from this one and transfered over to the other. I would like to figure out how to stop that damn MS firewall and no antivirus message all the time. Yes, I know I don't have the fire wall turned on and that I have no intention of putting an antivirus on the system.

I would love to go to MS with a nice wooden baseball bat, they make the better/solid sound and beat on the programer who put that crap in there.

Me ------------ " would you like me to quit beating you with this bat? Reply Yes or No."
Programer - "Yes"
Me ------------ " You have relpied Yes. Would you like to continue? Reply Yes or No."
Programer - "Yes"
Me ------------ " You have replied Yes."
So I continue to beat on him.
Me ------------ "Would you like me to quit beating you with this bat? Reply Yes of No."

Just so they know what it's like.

Stopping the firewall/antivirus messages:

• go to Control Panel
• start Security Center
• click the link "Change the way Security Center alerts me
• and uncheck "Firewall" and "Anti virus" in the dialog that pops up.

Done.

I installed Poser on both the 64 bit and 32 bit side of my machine. A nice trick: I installed outside of the Program Files folder (actually, on a separate drive) in XP 32 bit, and then installed Poser in XP 64 bit over the previous 32 bit install. And it works in both 32 bit and 64 bit XP. 

Poser doesn't do anything in the registry, except for associating file extensions. So Vue only has to be pointed to the location of Poser.exe, and you're done.
The actual Poser installation is nothing more than a brute file copy from the CD/DVD.

Thanks you.

This just in -- the latest version of iTunes will now work with Vista 64.  Still not 100% compatible with XP 64, though.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301301

OK, I installed Modo on it. Had to get a new key.

Man, does Modo fly now. The sculpting brushs are so fast and smooth. I have made a new V4 head morph in about 10 min. This has just made my day. Should have gone 64 bit a long time ago.

Can't wait for the Modo 64 bit release.