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Subject: Display Problem


Jonj1611 ( ) posted Wed, 06 February 2008 at 5:04 AM · edited Wed, 25 October 2023 at 6:54 PM

Hi,

I have a weird display problem and wondered if anyone else has encountered it, ok, first off I am using Vue 6 Infinite, latest updates applied, Vista Home Premium. My system is a Athlon 64 X2 6000+, 3GB DDR2 Ram, 1TB Hard drive space, 256MB ATI 1950x Pro graphics card.

Ok, now for the problem, say I load an object, something simple or complicated, it doesn't matter and then I want to add a point light, the object dissapears while the I have the point light selected, I then need to click on the object to see it again, this makes placing lights virtually impossible, that was just an example it can happen with anything, select one thing and the others dissapear.

Get the same problem whether using software or hardware OpenGL. Tried turning off background draw thread and maintain min FPS, still the same issue. Also tried looking at the views flat shaded, wireframe etc.

Any help appreciated :)

Jon

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keenart ( ) posted Wed, 06 February 2008 at 6:49 AM

A long shot but you might try the following

If not already, try changing the Properties of the Vue.exe file as visual themes, mouse over’s etc. can play havoc with Vue while in Vista. Try checking;

 

Disable Visual themes

Disable Desktop composition

 

If neither of those work then try checking the setting Run this program in Windows XP Compatibility mode.

 

Nvidia and ATI are having trouble with the one of the basic display drivers. That problem was solved in XP but not in Vista as yet. 

jankeen.com


Jonj1611 ( ) posted Wed, 06 February 2008 at 7:30 AM

Hi,

Thanks I will give it a try, I always used Nvidia in the past, but have ATI now, I really can't remember if the problem started when I put the ATI card in a few months ago or not, or if I have always lived with the problem but will give your ideas a go.

Thanks
Jon

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bruno021 ( ) posted Wed, 06 February 2008 at 3:59 PM

I have ATI with XP Home, and if works fine on main PC. I have NVidia & Vista Family premium on laptop, it works fine with Vue, but not woth Cinema4D, I have ghosting artifacts when selecting objects/faces, and I also have random crashes.
So I suspect Vista is the nasty culprit here. I really wish I could install XP on my laptop, but I'm afraid I woiuld have incompatibilities and driver issues if I did.



Jonj1611 ( ) posted Wed, 06 February 2008 at 4:05 PM

Thanks for the info Bruno, I tried what Keenart said but still the problem exists, also contacted E-on tech support and followed there advice but that still didn't work. On retesting the problem the problem exists with Hardware OpenGL only, software works ok, but really is so slow its despressing and wireframe works but again can hardly see anything once I have a large build up of objects :(

Jon

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Trepz ( ) posted Thu, 07 February 2008 at 12:01 AM

Yeah Bruno,I to am having the ghosting problems with Cinema 10.I assumed it was the Nvidia drivers not being worth a snot,but as i am not the only one having t he problem i must blame Vista then.I am glad Vue runs well though.Well as good as it can anyway:P

"Many are willing to suffer for their art. Few are willing to learn to draw."


bruno021 ( ) posted Thu, 07 February 2008 at 2:02 AM

Paul, there is a thread at C4D Cafe about this ghosting problem with Vista & Cinema, I haven't had the time to check yet.



Trepz ( ) posted Thu, 07 February 2008 at 3:38 AM

WOW! they redid the whole site:P I cant login though???

"Many are willing to suffer for their art. Few are willing to learn to draw."


keenart ( ) posted Thu, 07 February 2008 at 6:02 AM

Sorry I forgot the ATI Crossfire driver that is causing the problem, but for NVidia it is nvlddmkm.sys.  These drivers handle display and OpenGL and can cause troubles for any graphic intense software, especially 3D apps and Games.  One of the techs was telling me it was an incompatibility issue between the mobo and bus voltages.  Noway, as you say it is Vista, because the same issue plagued XP for a long time before being resolved.  AND, it does not make any difference what drivers you use from 98 up, but 97 drivers seem to perform better.   Of course they are for XP and will cause troubles with Vista.

There is little that can be done the drivers have to be rewritten.  If it is particularly bad you will get constant Errors in the Events Viewer, which eventually trips up the OS.  NVidia knows about it but is more interested in cleaning up the 8600 to 8800 drivers first and getting DX10 to work in competition with ATI.

Someone is always kicking you in the butt.

jankeen.com


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