I'm having a really annoying problem with V4 and Vue.
First of all, I'm running Poser 7 and Vue 6 xStream.
And what happens is fairly easy to describe - Victoria 4 is crashing Vue.
I've tried to import her even butt nekkid, but it doesn't seem to matter. Vue simply doesn't like her.

Everything is ok in the setup in Vue as for the path to poser.exe and I had this problem when I was using Poser 6 as well.

I'm not using Victoria 4.2 btw. This is the first version of her.
And I can import pretty much anything else from Poser. V3, M3, Apollo Maximus, props....and dynamic clothing and hair. No problem at all.
(The problem usually comes down to lack of virtual memory to actually USE any of the Poser characters...nothing else.)

Does anyone have a clue what to do about this?

Thanks for peeking :)

Christa

I was able to import fully clothed V4 AND a dragon into 6 Inf a little while ago.  I think it was 4.1 though, not the original. 
Could it be that the skin tex you used has a ridiculously high resolution and that's what's crashing Vue?  I've had that problem in teh past.
Just to experiment, try saving a non textured V4 and import it see if it crashes or not ?

My guess is Gill is right. Are you using the poser shader tree and have the reposing option on? These options are resources hogs.

Hmm....might be the texture. It's shaded, but I never import anything using the poser shader tree or the reposing options. I wouldn't be able to repose anything with this baby laptop :p Takes a lot more resources than I have to do that.

I'll try to import her without any textures at all and see what happens.

I will be back and thanks guys :D

Christa

Well....that didn't do any good.
I'm beginning to think it is my installation of V4 that is corrupt because I can't open pz3's with her included in Poser either. It keep crashing.

I will have to reinstall her and see what happens. Or get Vicky 4.2.

Christa

If your V4 install is corrupted, don't install V4.2 on top of it, uninstal V4 ( or V4.1 if the case) before, and the morphs++ if you have them. So your V4.2 will be a clean install.

Make sure you haven't got use "external binary morphs targets" on in Poser, that'll snag it every time! Untick it in Poser preferences if it's ticked and then re-save your prefs!!

Yes...I will uninstall V4 first. I've had to dive into the sink and do dishes, so I haven't done anything about her yet.

Thefixer - that option was checked, so I unchecked it, saved the preferences, restarted Poser and tried to open the file, but had the same result.

I'm going to uninstall V4 and install V4.2 now.

More laters and thanks again :)

Christa

Vicky4 has been a mess, in regards to the verisons, problems and so on :/
Hope you get it sorted out but sounds more like a poser/Vicky thing than Vue.

it would take a crazy sized texture to crash vue, if it was only one texture, somehting a lot more thna 4000x4000! But when it's a fully clothed model, you can end up with a ton of 4kx4k textures and that can drag Vue down on a system without tons of RAM.
Not the case since croxie said Vicky was unclothed :)

I didn't upgrade to Poser7 as the face moprh thing sounded good but heard way too many other  problems with it. Realy hope Poser 8 is a GENUINE imporvement, damn proggie needs boot up the arse, it's 10 years out of date, it's still basically Poser3 ;)
mutters in a Victor Meldrew way :D

What texture is it?I might have it, I could try it with my set up if I have!
I've not had any probs with V4, I'm still using 4.1, there's been way too many problems reported in the Poser forums for me to install 4.2!!

Quote - Yes...I will uninstall V4 first. I've had to dive into the sink and do dishes, so I haven't done anything about her yet.

Thefixer - that option was checked, so I unchecked it, saved the preferences, restarted Poser and tried to open the file, but had the same result.

I'm going to uninstall V4 and install V4.2 now.

More laters and thanks again :)

Christa

Well, I could help with your other problem......get a dishwasher - I did :-)

LOL @ Gill.....a dishwasher would be perrrfect :p I might have to ask for one for my b-day ;)

Ok....so I uninstalled V4, installed V4.2....and now all of it works perfect :D
I can open pz3 with her again without crashing Poser...and it will import her without any problems into Vue. Even fully dressed in a gown that is dynamic :D

So it was probably V4 that was corrupt. I haven't used her a whole lot before and I've lived in Vue most of the time when I've done any 3D at all....so these issues were new to me.

Silverblade - I upgraded because I wanted to use Vicky 3 poses on V4. That was what convinced me. But other than that there's no big difference really. I can see the names of the texture that is loading before it starts to render, but other than that I haven't had a chance to take any closer look.
Vue have been waaaaay too fascinating.

Thanks to an early b-day gift in the shape of pennies I got the chance to buy The Glamourous Collection V4 by corvas, so that was the reason I began to fiddle with this in the first place ;)
Now I might even be able to make some renders including V4 and those gowns ;)

Thank you all for your assistance :D

Christa

Good news then :)

For future reference, it's easy to find out what textures are loading - go to the pose library in Poser where your mat file is -  open the .pp2 file in a text editor and it will give you the texture name and the folder you can find it in.   Useful if you should find a large texture is slowing you down - you can copy the texture, resize it, save it as a new jpg and apply it to your figure.  If you need any help on doing this at any time in the future you can email me direct and I'll give you more precise instructions.

PS - My mum bought me my dishwasher 2 Christmases ago - would really miss it now if it broke down.   Would have to restort back to plan B....the husband ;-)

It's easier and quicker to run the **"collect scene inventory" ** python script within Poser, this gives you a full texture list either in a window inside Poser or as a text file!

Gill - yes, I usually do it that way too. Sounds like Thefixer's way is smoother and faster though :D

And a dishwasher is never wrong. I dislike to get kitchen tools as gifts, but a dishwasher I would gladly accept :D

Cool! :)
I haven't used V4 yet, iirc, lol, tons of stuff for V3 and she works ;)

Quote - Cool! :)
I haven't used V4 yet, iirc, lol, tons of stuff for V3 and she works ;)

Good point.
It's a bit like "Why mend what is not broken" ;)

But, if she ha snew toys...well, that's another matter! ;)

Now, what we REALLY need is Poser8 with a bloody DECENT library, like Vue's, with good thumb nail, categories for actual poses and materials rather than ALl lumpe dinto "Poses", and loooooooooooong names of things in directories, and so on, rather than the mess we have at the moment...mmm! :)

I actually like Carrara's browser. Very well laid out, and quick and responsive.  And it can pose Poser figures in real time, unlike Vue 6 Infinite with 8GB of RAM! And quad cores! (MyCat settles down and takes meds) but no ecosystems and no 4.8 billion poly scenes. Sometimes you get the elevator, sometimes you get the shaft.

Back on topic. V4.2 works well for me with Vue 6, better than Poser 7 in fact. But I pose in Poser 7 and just import the scene in Vue afterwards, set up the shaders in SkinVue on the 32 bit machine, save the model and load it on the 64 bit machine. (back off topic, I'm almost ready to port wxPython to 64 bit Windows! And I'm a Linux kernel developer!)

quote:- "back off topic, I'm almost ready to port wxPython to 64 bit Windows! And I'm a Linux kernel developer!" what will that do? Love esther

That'll mean SkinVue will be available to people running Vue 64 bit

i was hoping the e frontier was following e-on and would put the library in My Documents instead of squeezing it all in under Program Files. And yes, it sure needs cleaning up. I hate it when it's messy.
Right now I have close to 9 gig of stuff in my Runtime folder and it takes forever to load on this lil laptop. Somehow I think that it would be a lot faster with a cleaner structure.

As for SkinVue, I've never tried it. Mostly because I rarely use any poser characters in Vue. Can anyone please point out where I can get it?
It seemed that V4.2 behaved better in Vue than V3 does...but that might change when I begin to set up an entire scene :p Nothing usually lasts forever.

Christa

Attached Link: SkinVue

you'll also need to get one of the figure packs too depending on whether you are going to be using the DAZ characters or the efrontier (poser) ones.

Thank you :D

Wierd (i always catch conversations near the end)

i have Vic 4.0 - and never had a moments problem with her.

i refused to "upgrade" to 4.1, just on sheer principle - less than a month after i bought 4.0 - they "updated" her - NO WAY.

now, i have NO CHOICE but to use 4.2, just so i can use aiko 4 - meanies.

i dont look forward to THAT.  i WILL, however, keep 4.0 - i love her to pieces.  she's unpretientious, and better yet - she loads up with all her morphs.

if you still have the 4.0 version and like her and wish to use her, from what i understand it IS possible to keep her and STILL have 4.2 - the only incompatabilities were 4.1 to 4.2

leave it to daz to screw up a good thing.

now off the topic...

dishwasher - my dishwasher is hubby... he hauls the water, heats the water, washes the dishes, and then hauls the water back off.  yep - i have no running water.  yes, that means i have an outhouse. and no, that doesnt mean i use the outhouse (there are ways, my friends...) NO, i do NOT live in a igloo, either LOL.

ok, now a question - those who have vic 4.0 and 4.2 - do you have them both installed?  any problems?

my new computer should arrive this comping week (about time... 5 months AFTER i "ordered" it from my brother).... so, am looking forward to the challenge of setting things up.

its XP Pro 64bit.  (i avoid vista like the plague)
dual processor, 4 gigs ram.... and enough HD space i wont run out for at least 2 months =D

any issues importing V4.2 into vue?

also - i have vue on THIS machine, how do i go about installing it on the other one?  do i have to remove it first from this one?  i know its pickier than even poser 7 was.

uggg, ok... still recovering from surgery - back top laying down.

thanks a bunch, my friends =D

melikia - I uninstalled V4.0 since the file seemed to be corrupt and I haven't installed her again.
At least not yet.

And I haven't had any issue importing V 4.2 into Vue at all.

As for installing Vue on multiple machines, I believe you need a license that will let you do that.
Take a peek at e-on's website and see what it says, but most of the time you need more than one license since it would be two different computers.

I hope you will recover from surgery :)

C.

e-on allows the installation on two computers in your household. So you simply install and ask for a new activation code. That should be all.