And a very nice backside it is too :)  She's going to look lovely in that hehe, now where did I put that Bone Mower . . .  rubbing hands with glee

Whoahhhh! Me needs it now!

It's coming along great Connie. I love the lace work & nice job on the breast details!

wow so far very cool outfits I love aeon flux and the daisy duke thing is not my style it looks very nicely done. I have been waiting to see what knida of clothes GND4 gets before buying her but if you are releasing outfits like that i may have to grab her. I agree with all the stuff said before I love the fetish, scfi, fantasy stuff, and maybe some haute coutre  pieces and yeah some basic everyday stuff l would like to see what she wears over the course of the week through todays times. 

Very nice Connie. Blackhearted better watch out or you'll beat him to the punch with the  first clothing release for GND4. ;-)

Quote - Very nice Connie. Blackhearted better watch out or you'll beat him to the punch with the  first clothing release for GND4. ;-)

Ha ha, nice one!
Hopefully this will be the start of a long line of GND oufits.

Quote - Very nice Connie. Blackhearted better watch out or you'll beat him to the punch with the  first clothing release for GND4. ;-)

LOL, I don't think so...
I gather he likes to keep his work under wraps till it's released.

I seem to like the feedback and interaction. 
Plus, no matter what I do, blackhearted stuff will always look better, his artistry is a lot more refined then mine.

There's a lot to do on this outfit... I haven't even started UV mapping it yet, and with all the little detail, lemme tell ya, I'm not exactly looking forward to it. It's going to take a while!

FrankT... what's a Bone Mower???

Quote - LOL, I don't think so...
I gather he likes to keep his work under wraps till it's released.

Now, you didn't hav'ta go and say that! I was trying to start a "Who can get it out faster" contest here! =-}

wow
its looking incredible
the details on the waist and breast area are well WOW
and that jacket is going to look so awesome with other clothing 2
cant wait:)
and i no what you mean bout the uv mapping
just started uv mapping the stuff i make and its horrible probably the worst thing you have to do when making clothes lol

Connie, the Bone Mower is the big gun in
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1397565

Part of the Sanctum Arts VAP GRIM armour update.

Frank - I knew what you meant about the 'Bone Mower', but to me it somehow sounded a
bit rude the way it was used in context.
I guess that sums up how my mind works.

Quote - Frank - I knew what you meant about the 'Bone Mower', but to me it somehow sounded a
bit rude the way it was used in context.
I guess that sums up how my mind works.

Yeah, not knowing what exactly a bone mower was... that's where my mind was headed :blushing:

Corvas, thanks, I'm glad you like it :)
UV mapping... it can be tedious, but I put on a book on tape, and have at it. It's rigging I really don't like doing, probably because it requires a lot more concentration the UV mapping. I think the older I get the worse my ADD gets.

I just wish I could help out in some way Connie, but I'm afraid I've never done modelling, texturing, rigging, UVmapping or anything like that. I guess one day I'll have to get around to giving it a try, seeing what you & others accomplish does give inspiration.

oh... this is the message you were mentioning... I'm just now seeing it     

I can model and UV map a cube if I try reaaaaaally hard :)

Just thought I'd mention it, aside from GND fit, I'll add few other popular body style fits, I think Pretty 3D, maybe this one: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=60887&MostWanted=Y
How about Alice?

Quote - I can model and UV map a cube if I try reaaaaaally hard :)

Is it an Aeon Flux cube?

What program have you used for modelling Frank? I've been meaning to give Wings a try but I find it hard to escape from Vue!

Quote - Just thought I'd mention it, aside from GND fit, I'll add few other popular body style fits, I think Pretty 3D, maybe this one: http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=60887&MostWanted=Y
How about Alice?

Yeah, I would definitely include Alice, for two reasons. Firstly, she has a different but yet interesting figure which would look good in the outfit & secondly I would imagine she'd be popular as alot of people use AerySoul's figures.
Pretty3D's is another good figure to use. I don't know Shae from the link you've given.

I use Hexagon 2.2 and ZBrush 3.1 at the moment.  I've got a demo of C4D too but you can't do anything really with it so I've not bothered that much.

Oh and another vote for Alice too

What is the deal with Alice not being on the market? I think I missed what's going on with her, was there some sort of a controversy?
If there was a controversy, we don't need to rehash it all, I just need a heads-up since I haven't been following.

Not long after Alice was initially released AerySoul took her down stating that she was too close to them personally, or something like that. It actually caused a bit of a stink with some people, especially when she was put on the market for a second time but only for a short period. Some saw it as a ploy to increase her sales. I can't see this being AerySoul's thinking as they are a very popular vendor.

I read that they "MAY" consider doing another very limited time release in concert with the Alice2.0 update. I don't follow things as closely as I'd like over there, but if this happens there'd be another shot for folks to get her.

Hey Joe-B-Wan, I love your avatar, did you make it yourself?

Yea, Joe-B-Wan, that really is one adorable avatar!

oh, stomy, our site will be back up and running in a day or two... 

I hope soon cause I picked a major fight on DAZ forums  nervous laugh  [hangs head in shame]

Quote - oh, stomy, our site will be back up and running in a day or two... 

I tried to get in this morning, thanks for letting me know Connie.

Quote - I hope soon cause I picked a major fight on DAZ forums  nervous laugh  [hangs head in shame]

Have you been a bad kitty again?!!

haha
cute pic lol

No, the avatar art isn't mine.... I just happened to find this picture on the internet somewhere and thought it was cool.
Thanks for the comments though. I can't take credit for the artwork, but I'll accept the recognition for my good judgment in liking it! ;-}

I'd love to see a Conniekat8 victorian outfit for sale to go with your awesome victorian boots :)

I think a nice classic victorian outfit is a very disticnt possibility :)

Quote - I hope soon cause I picked a major fight on DAZ forums  nervous laugh  [hangs head in shame]

Kitty having some issues?

Whom are you partnered with may I ask?

Quote - > Quote - I hope soon cause I picked a major fight on DAZ forums  nervous laugh  [hangs head in shame]

Kitty having some issues?

Whom are you partnered with may I ask?

Much like my avatar, every now and then I have a hissy fit. :glare:
Then I go back to being a snuggly kitty. shrug such is life.

Several of us are doing things under OKC Design Group. OKCRandy has been around for a while and has helped me with a few technical things on the wizard robe. BluEcho is starting to do our characters, looks like Patorak will be our figure modeller, I think Klutz is coming on board too. And we have a regular snazzy group of beta testers whom also make freebies on occasion. There are couple other people whom have been working with Randy, and still are, like Pdxjim.
Also we have about two or three super duper well known high end members as 'observing and guiding' partners, but I'm not sure I'm allowed to say whom they are.

Maybe Randy will jump in and offer more detail. I'm not the center of it all, so I may not know everyting. I hope I haven't said too much.

Well, when you said, "our site" I had hoped you weren't referring to the voices in your head.
snicker

Good luck, Pat is a good lad...as you are too lass.

yer that would be awesome,would save me the time of doing it myself lol
thanks

Here it is :
http://www.sharecg.com/v/24571/poser/AS-Little-Dyvil-Dress-Fit-to-GND4

Please let me know if you have any trouble , I have only tested it on my computer , Poser 7 & 6

works perfectly
thanks heaps
any chance of more GND fits ?????

Surely YES !

I adore playing with ZBrush , wish I had more time for it !
I'm glad it works , I have been looking a long time for an easy-to-use system for figures that don't have extra channels .

Finally , she has something to wear !

Wow alizea. Thanks a million. I haven't had a chance to play with it yet, but I'm sure it's fabulous.

If your taking requests, one of the outfits I use most on V4 is Shadow Dancer form DAZ3d.

I have ZBrush too, and I'd love to find the time to do what your doing, but I'm already involved in a project that's taking longer than I'd planned, and the release of GND4 has distracted me too much already.

By the way, are Alice and GND4 similar enough in shape the clothing is reasonably easy to fit between them?

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By the way, are Alice and GND4 similar enough in shape the clothing is reasonably easy to fit between them?

Not really , I thought so too , but Alice's breast is lower and the back is quite different , so when you dial an Alice fit , you have the breasts that poke through ...

just to say...

not long after Alice's release some controversy came up about her being an "anorexic" character.  i've seen the same said of GND 2.0.  despite much of what's been said on either side, anorexia is a behavior and an illness, not a body weight, and only if there's a huge problem would you be able to tell by body weight.  frankly, i've seen it first in skin tone.  so i'd say when it comes to 3d meshes,  it's about like age.  everyone has their personal reactions, and most people would like to apply their own version of the obscenity rule ("i know it when i see it"), but i think it's not worth arguing over since it comes down to opinion.   in any case, Aery Soul decided not to debate the point, but also not to stay and take the flak in threads tons of pages long and thick with acrimony on both sides.  so now Alice comes out only once in a blue moon, and everyone's just thankful instead of hateful.

also just to say..

there is no copyright on clothing (though i know that's in the works).  otherwise, making a derivative work would be covered by copyright law.

just to say...

not long after Alice's release some controversy came up about her being an "anorexic" character.  i've seen the same said of GND 2.0.  despite much of what's been said on either side, anorexia is a behavior and an illness, not a body weight, and only if there's a huge problem would you be able to tell by body weight.  frankly, i've seen it first in skin tone.  so i'd say when it comes to 3d meshes,  it's about like age.  everyone has their personal reactions, and most people would like to apply their own version of the obscenity rule ("i know it when i see it"), but i think it's not worth arguing over since it comes down to opinion.   in any case, Aery Soul decided not to debate the point, but also not to stay and take the flak in threads tons of pages long and thick with acrimony on both sides.  so now Alice comes out only once in a blue moon, and everyone's just thankful instead of hateful.

also just to say..

there is no copyright on clothing (though i know that's in the works).  otherwise, making a derivative work would be covered by copyright law.

Quote - Well, when you said, "our site" I had hoped you weren't referring to the voices in your head.
snicker

Good luck, Pat is a good lad...as you are too lass.

Well, yes, the voices in my head too... guys involved on the team have been amazingly tolerant of them :lol:

Quote - Here it is :
http://www.sharecg.com/v/24571/poser/AS-Little-Dyvil-Dress-Fit-to-GND4

Please let me know if you have any trouble , I have only tested it on my computer , Poser 7 & 6

Awesome, thanks for doing that!!! 

Quote - just to say...

not long after Alice's release some controversy came up about her being an "anorexic" character.  i've seen the same said of GND 2.0.  despite much of what's been said on either side, anorexia is a behavior and an illness, not a body weight, and only if there's a huge problem would you be able to tell by body weight.  frankly, i've seen it first in skin tone.  so i'd say when it comes to 3d meshes,  it's about like age.  everyone has their personal reactions, and most people would like to apply their own version of the obscenity rule ("i know it when i see it"), but i think it's not worth arguing over since it comes down to opinion.   in any case, Aery Soul decided not to debate the point, but also not to stay and take the flak in threads tons of pages long and thick with acrimony on both sides.  so now Alice comes out only once in a blue moon, and everyone's just thankful instead of hateful.   

Aaaah, that debate. I think about the time I started being active on the forums the GND2 debate about that was dying off. I suspected similar happened with Alice.

Yeah, I remember the Alice debate too. At the end of the day it was all a load of tosh. AerySoul denied they took her down because of it even though alot of people suspected this was really the case.
The way I see it is these figures are just fantasy characters. In fantasy people can be as thin or as fat as we want them. If you don't like 'em then don't buy 'em. Unfortunately some people love kicking up a fuss because they've got nothing better to do. I think it's sad if this debate was the real reason behind the pulling of Alice.
In my early days of Poser I bought Yaara, a great character, but I don't remember hearing anything about her even though she was really thin. There again, she was part Elven so that must make it OK.
I don't recall the debate about GND2, I missed that one.
Why does a new figure have to represent the ideal? Aren't we here to create fantasy just as much as real life?

Yummy, it's looking good !

Thanks FrankT :)
I think what I'll do the shoes the way I'm doing the gloves, where they'll be separate parts, but very close together, with a morph for things to go over or under the shoes, or to be used with other shoes.
I just really don't like the shoes that they have on this outfit, I kee pseeing her in boots like treadz or somethoing else chunky.  I may have to model one of each to keep everyone happy!

one set of Treadz type boots and one set of FMB's please :) (cheeky I know but you never know if you don't ask)

It's a good idea to keep the shoes seperate Connie, but I must admit that I prefer the Treadz as well. The Treadz just go with so many outfits.
I'm really looking forward to the finished product, it's going to be great to see what people do with it.
Oh Connie, just thinking, how many material zones will the outfit have?