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MakeHuman © is completely free, innovative and professional software for the modelling of 3-Dimensional characters. The features that make this software unique are the new Tetra-parametric GUI © components and the Natural Pose System ©, for advanced muscular simulation. Using MakeHuman a photorealistic character can be modeled in less than 2 minutes; MakeHuman is released under an Open Source Licence, and is available for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux.

Yes. I downloaded the latest version some week ago, but not everything is working, perhaps I have to download and reïnstall it again. because I had a very early version.

Looks like they still don't even know what thier license will be.. there's no indication if it can yet b used for character creation, or only for still images.

Once they figure out what the purpose of the program actually is, I'll look at it again.

DS is a better download/time investment right now.

Quote - Looks like they still don't even know what thier license will be.. there's no indication if it can yet b used for character creation, or only for still images.

Once they figure out what the purpose of the program actually is, I'll look at it again.

DS is a better download/time investment right now.

According to the forums It can be used for character creation.

According to the forums, the mesh cannot be redistributed.

Read the license thread.

They may allow public domain mesh release, however they still havbe not made that decision, in like ayear's time or more.
 

Where does it say that the mesh cannot be distributed?

According to http://www.dedalo-3d.com/legal.php is is released under the MIT license.

OK, sorry. I found it in the General forum.

Does this limitation not apply to the mesh of MH version 0.9?

Attached Link: http://www.dedalo-3d.com/legal.php

> Quote - Looks like they still don't even know what thier license will be.. there's no indication if it can yet b used for character creation, or only for still images. > > Once they figure out what the purpose of the program actually is, I'll look at it again.

The mesh is licensed under the MIT license, as stated on the linked page.

Interesting, since the last post in the forums by the developers is contradictory to that.

That licence is to 2007, and the most recent post about them changing this isposted  this last month.

Not worth looking into at all, if they don't know what they are doing yet.

Quote - Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Mesh"), to deal in the Mesh without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Mesh, and to permit persons to whom the Mesh is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Mesh.

That's straight from the legal page. Seems pretty straight forward to me. If they don't want the mesh distributed they're going to have to change that.

Look in the forums for makehuman.. they AE talking about not allowing redistribution of the mesh.

Anyone starts working on something today with it might have a very rude awakening next week, when they change thier mind.

I have to agree with Gareee on this one. Make up your mind is it free or not. It's like they want to make a base of something and then get credit for whatever is done with it, which I don't mind doing, but only for the base. Do you say this char is mine but it is a dirivative of makehuman? Seems like they just can't let go of the baby. I won't do anything with it until they have in writing a firm tos...not this wishy washy thing they are doing in the forums.

Its like now that they have most things working somewhat, they are coming up with some marketing strategies for it.

There is a TOS, printed right in the legal section.
I've never been to their forum, don't plan on going to their forum, and don't really think that it matters what they say in their forum.
Legal page is (or at least almost positively would be considered) the LEGAL terms of use. Until they change their license, it doesn't matter what they talk in a forum.

Also, can they distribute something under 'free to use for any purpose' (paraphrased) and then later recind that, and make it retroactive?
I wouldn't think so. They might get away with it; but written contracts (documented licenses) are not retroactive. You agree to the current terms of use; that's it. Contracts can't be changed by one party; it requires that both parties agree to the changes.
Seems like it would be opening themselves up for legal counter-suits (misrepresentation) if they tried to say that anybody that downloaded and agreed to the terms of the current license would then be liable for a future change to the agreement.

My own assessment, for what it's worth:

It's cute, with characters about on par with Poser 2/3. It has a lot of built in flexibility, but the controls are somewhat awkward, and you cant partially use, say, a nose morph: it's all or nothing.

I wasnt terribly impressed, but not terribly disappointed either.

"I've never been to their forum, don't plan on going to their forum, and don't really think that it matters what they say in their forum.
Legal page is (or at least almost positively would be considered) the LEGAL terms of use. Until they change their license, it doesn't matter what they talk in a forum."

Well, if you plan on using it to product something for redistribution, I'd think it would be pretty damned important about license changes they are making.

Imagine if I spent 4 months developng a product based off thier mesh, and by the time I was ready to make it available for sale, the licensing had been changed.

And if they have a clause in thier license that allows for changes, then you are bound to those changes. I'm not a lawyer, so I don;t know on a product developemnt or even freebie release if a retroactive change can be enforced.

Regardless, it's just not worth even messing around with.

Quote - ...and you cant partially use, say, a nose morph: it's all or nothing.

Yes you can. 1% to 100% range (by 1% increments).

Thanks for letting me know about that. After reading your post, I went back and found a few other little things in it.

Still, it's nothing I'd get excited about. Maybe when the final version comes out, I'll give it anoher shot.

I tested it a long time ago when it was a Blender 3D plugin, as I can see it, it's not build to be use in the same way as Poser or Daz Studio, I think it's meant to be used as an starting point to make human figures then modify them and rig the result in, let's say Blender 3D.

... which is why changing redistribution rights is a BIG deal!

Their talking about changing the terms of use for future releases.
It is illegal to alter a TOS agreement after the fact.
Now, if there is a MakeHuman 10, or whatever, released; then they can use whatever license they want to with that version. If you want the new version, you have to agree with the terms.
Currently however, the license clearly states that the mesh can be redistributed, sold, whatever your heart desires; without restriction. That applies for any current installation. It can't be altered after the fact.

Quote - Their talking about changing the terms of use for future releases.
It is illegal to alter a TOS agreement after the fact.

Yes, you are correct. They cannot change the TOS after they have posted them for a product which has subsequently already been downloaded. IOW, you cannot change licensing and make things retroactive to previous users.

Our company purchased some voice technology from AT&T which allowed me to use it in products. They later changed their TOS for the exact same product, but could not and did not try to enforce the newly applied changes in license to older licensees.

Of course, they didn't have a forum from which to do it from ;-)

IOW, just because folks are spouting about it in the forum, doesn't change the actual legal terms for products distributed. That has to be explicitly done in the license agreement, and no amout of chatter in the forums can change it.