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Subject: Need help using brushes


CStrauss ( ) posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 7:37 PM · edited Thu, 14 November 2024 at 12:50 PM

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I have been wondering how to do this for a long time. One of my weakest points in using photoshop is how to use brushes, now I dont mean the normal brushes that come installed. I mean the ones download of shapes and objects. I have found many free brushes and they be really cool to use to make images and what not but I install them and im like now wtf do i do.

Here is a good example I downloaded these brushes
http://www.brusheezy.com/brush/399-Abstract-Brushset-X

The Images posted here was made with these brushes.

Now my question how do I use them to get the same effect for example add different colors to parts of the brush. I mean what good is having all these great brushes of shapes and complex objects if you just make them one color. Doesn't seem like fun to me lol. So if any one can post some tips even tutorials I searched and searched the net and only tutorials I find on brushes is normally how to make brushes or make a image into a brush. Not the most effecent way of using them anyways. Thanks for any help you all can give me.


ARTWITHIN_II ( ) posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 8:24 PM

Attached Link: Tutorial Guide

You are looking for the wrong thing.  Brushes are only the basic starting point.  You need to learn how to create "effects".   This link will lead you to a number of effects.  You can experiment with them to learn the possibilities.  Then, start playing around with what you learn.

I can't tell you how the above image effects were created, because there are so many filters available that could to the work.   However, compositing and gradients are possibilities, along with other things.  Often more than one technique is applied to create an effect.

For future searches use the keywords "Photoshop tutorials" and you will get a wider range of tutorials available.

Best wishes as you learn to use Photoshop, and how to create wonderful art.



ARTWITHIN_II ( ) posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 8:35 PM

Attached Link: Deluxi Tutorial

Not exact, but similar effect.  Try this tutorial.



CStrauss ( ) posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 8:47 PM

hmmm so its not so much using the same brushes over and over but using diffrent techinques with filters to achieve the appearnce. I guess I was sorta on the right track i been playing around with dupilcating layers and playing with layer styles maybe play with hue/saturation features.

But yea these are the type of tutorials i came across when doing a search just never connected uses techniques in those tuts to try on brushes. Still I like to see tips and techniques other do so hopefully more will add to this thread so we can all learn something new


ARTWITHIN_II ( ) posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 9:08 PM

Just for your information, I paint abstract art with Photoshop.  I've used up to 60 layers in one painting.   For me the brushes are important, but not many use PS as I do.    I've recently changed my style from the one in my ARTWITHIN gallery.  It appears you want to go in a different direction with your art, so I think it is good to get as many tips and tricks as possible, even if you don't use them all.  You may apply on effect on one layer then a different one on another layer, but when you composite the layers, you can get a completely different look.

Photoshop is a complex program that deserves putting attention into to learn to use it to it maximum benefit if you are interested.  Sometimes, it is worth the money to buy a book you see that gives you step by step instruction on what you want to accomplish.  Take a look at the books available on Amazon, just to get an idea of what is out there.  Someday, you may want to buy a book, even with tutorials on the net, some books are works of art teaching how to create works of art.



CStrauss ( ) posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 9:21 PM

yeah honestly I cant really say what I can use to brushes to create, the possiblities are endless. Weather it be using a brush for one of my webdesign layouts or to make some cool backgrounds for my 3d renders, like i said the possiblities are endless, I do have several ps books most are more like learning the program, many dont really cover "we going to use brushes to create this" type advice.

I do have 2 books they dont cover what i want to do with brushes but they have been good with other things Down and dirty photoshop tricks and classic effects. But deffentaly i want to learn to do some abstract stuff I got it on my list to learn. Your right photoshop is a big program, but I found it has a pretty big learning curve atleast for me. Just the brush thing has had me stumped for a while and I wasn't ready to give up and say oh this is out my league.

But I'm one of those people that always wanting to learn more so what ever i can take away from here im sure i will use somewhere done the line


CStrauss ( ) posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 11:05 PM

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I think I'm figuring it out I did this simple image just following some effects from that link of tutorials you gave me and just playing around with some filters. I know its nothing special but I stuck with the keep it simple stupid method lol.


ARTWITHIN_II ( ) posted Thu, 27 March 2008 at 11:41 PM

Hey, that's  a great first effort.  I think it is very beautiful with a lovely color.   Simplicity can produce really stunning images, and I think it is a great way to begin.  You can always add complexity as you learn new things.  Keep up the effort and before long you will be very happy with what you have accomplished.



tantarus ( ) posted Fri, 28 March 2008 at 3:54 AM

F5 is magic key, in there you`ll find everything you need to color, shape, texture, etc your brushes.

Another tip, use path to create complex shape. Then in Path palette click on little triangle and choose stroke path, click on simulate pressure to fake pen stroke. To get good result enable shape dynamics in brushes palette (F5) :)

Tihomir




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CStrauss ( ) posted Fri, 28 March 2008 at 11:03 PM

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lol well im not sure what all that means i know f5 brings up brush panel and I understand how to use some of the things in there, but not sure if thats all relavent to the topic hand I did figure out somethings when working with abstract brushes but then there brushes I found like the ones in the pictures.

Now  brushes in my sample image above I see many uses for but its pretty much mono-toned so a brush thats complex like that how would I be able to add colors to diffrent parts of the image the brush makes. Would that be a matter of just making one layer one color then make another layer of another color I want to use. then continue until I get all colors I want then slowly erase parts I dont want on each layer?

Sorry if this all seems noobish lol but im really trying to find out to what extent I can use brushes in my projects.


tantarus ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2008 at 3:34 AM

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I was refering mainly to abstract brushes and brushes that are used to create something from scratch.

This needs layers if you want to color each part independent, not a big deal also. Few paths to select, then cut each body piece or whatever to separate layer and colorize as needed.

This example is five min. job before my morning coffee lol., its scaled bigger so pixels are blured.

Three paths, three layers with H/S adj. layers grouped :)

Tihomir




Open your mind and share the knowledge!


CStrauss ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2008 at 1:00 PM

That is awsome  tihomir, I been trying to duplicate what you done and seem lost though I took my brush and made a new layer and inserted into the document I went to the paths options and like you mentioned and the options are pretty much greyed out so I'm obviously missing something.

Do I need to use the pin tool and make paths with that first? Also you mentioned layers to color parts independently, I figured that much and pretty much know how to use H/S I use that alot, I love that little tool. But getting the path selections is stumping me if you got some more free time and can post something more detailed I'm very interested in learning this.

Thank you for your help so far


tantarus ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2008 at 2:10 PM

Here is few steps :)

  1. Create transparent document (so you dont have to delete background)

  2. Apply brush, for example horse head

  3. Select face of the horse (not hair). You can select using Pen tool, or use Magnetic Lasso Tool    (its great for this kind of selections).

  4. Press CTRL+J to cut selection on new layer in one click.

  5. Hold CTRL and click on layer with face you just created to make selection.

  6. Click on base layer and press CTRL+SHIFT+I to inverse the selection.

  7. CTRL+J to cut hair on new layer.

  8. Now you have pieces on separate layers, so delete base layer.

  9. Click on first layer, hold ALT and choose H/S adjustment layer. Check "group with previous layer" and click OK.

  10. Repeat the same step for second layer. Now both layers have its own H/S adjustment layer.

  11. Double click on H/S layer and check colorize, from here you will find your way :)

This is most basic way, you can group curves, levels, gradient, etc and create hierarchy for each piece (face and hair).

One little trick while using Pen tool. You can convert path to normal selection by pressing CTRL+ENTER

Also you can convert normal selection to path in Path palette, "Make work path from selection" on the left of "Create new path".

For start that should be enough :)

Tihomir




Open your mind and share the knowledge!


CStrauss ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2008 at 2:13 PM

thanks i will give it a try, and post my results or any questions that might come, I really appreciate the help this is solving a mystery for me in so many ways thank you again


tantarus ( ) posted Sat, 29 March 2008 at 2:24 PM

No prob., enjoy learning PS. Dont be afraid to click on tools, options :)

If you have questions, I`ll be glad to answer you :)

Tihomir




Open your mind and share the knowledge!


CStrauss ( ) posted Mon, 31 March 2008 at 6:24 AM

Okay, I been attempting your steps, and came to the conclusion I'm a complete idiot when it comes to this, I'm doing something wrong completely your instructions are simple enough but I can not get the same result. Two possible questions could be the problem.

First when you use the brush for the first time on a transparent layer is there a particular color that makes it easier to work with I tried grey to black shades thinking that would make it easier to adjust color. but not sure

The second step I got lost on was:

  1. Click on first layer, hold ALT and choose H/S adjustment layer. Check "group with previous layer" and click OK.

When I attempt this step I don't see any options to choose H/S adjustment layer or group with previous layer. Then it hit me by H/S adjustment layer do you mean change layer mode to Hue or Satuation? I tried both and still had problems. and still dont see an check group with previous layer option. So I'm completely lost there.

Today in my ignorance I realized something I was doing wrong I was using magic wand tool when you said magic lasso tool, I total mis read that so I'm going to try that now but that step 9 still threw me off so if you could clearfy that i might figure it out from there :D

Thanks again for your advice its very kind of you to take a few min and help people.

Chris


Lucie ( ) posted Mon, 31 March 2008 at 6:35 AM · edited Mon, 31 March 2008 at 6:35 AM

Attached Link: http://r0man-de.deviantart.com/art/Photoshop-Brush-Tutorial-70340319

If you look at the comments on the link where you downloaded the brushes, The fellow offering those brushes posted a link to a tutorial on DeviantArt on how he did that image up there...

Lucie
finfond.net
finfond.net (store)


CStrauss ( ) posted Mon, 31 March 2008 at 7:29 AM

Wow, thanks Lucie I total missed that :D your my new hero lol.


Lucie ( ) posted Mon, 31 March 2008 at 7:32 AM

lol  My pleasure!  ;)

Lucie
finfond.net
finfond.net (store)


CStrauss ( ) posted Mon, 31 March 2008 at 7:51 AM

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Lol that was extremely easy I did this image in 5 min. It's nothing special but i was just playing around to see teh effect. I like it alot thanks again lucie for pointing that out again.

Now just need to practice a bit more on the other thing Tihomir was talking about and I will be one step further to using PS to its full potential thanks guys and gals you have been helping me out a lot.


tantarus ( ) posted Mon, 31 March 2008 at 9:30 AM

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Here is little sample of how layers should look :)

Cool colors in the abstract :)

If you hit the probs. again,  I`ll be glad to help you :)

Tihomir




Open your mind and share the knowledge!


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