Just a little bit of info from the E-on people they wanted you to see: Vue d'Esprit News June 15, 2001. Vue d'Esprit 4 Coming June 22! Vue d'Esprit 4 (Vue 4), the next version of e-on software's award winning 3D scenery animation and rendering software will be available soon! Vue 4 advances a new ease-of-use architecture and adds a long list of advanced realism features for the creation of ultra natural 3D graphics. The estimated shipping date of Vue 4 in North America is June 22, 2001. Pre-Order Vue 4 for Dad! e-on software is now accepting pre-orders for Vue 4, in time for Father's Day. Visit the e-on software website at http://www.e-onsoftware.com to place your order (non-Dads are also welcome!). Pre-orders will be billed and shipped on final availability of Vue 4. Special Pricing for Students and Teachers e-on software is offering special pricing for academic users. Instructors and students with valid academic credentials from accredited institutions can purchase Vue 4 for $159, a $40 savings off of the retail price of $199. Academic orders are processed through the e-on software website at http://www.e-onsoftware.com. Additional information is also available on volume academic license orders. Special Competitive Offer for Bryce 4 Users Vue 4 not only offers new and improved features and usability that Vue 3 users will appreciate, but also users of other terrain generation products. Users of Corel Bryce 4 or MetaCreations Bryce 4 can get a special competitive upgrade price of $169, a $30 savings off of the retail price of $199. Customers must fax a copy of their Bryce 4 registration card (with serial number), or original invoice with Bryce 4 serial number before the Vue 4 upgrade order can be shipped to you. This offer is available only in North America. Check the e-on software website for other offers in your region. About e-on software Founded in 1997, e-on software was established to develop and promote the highest quality graphics tools with professional strength features. Established by graphics enthusiasts for graphics enthusiasts, e-on software translates its passion for art into tools for the graphics community. E-on software has offices in Beaverton, Oregon USA and Paris, France. The company has achieved worldwide reputation for its award winning 3D scenery generator Vue d'Esprit. Contact e-on software USA 503-646-4857 e-on software Europe 33-1-431-42815

June 22-- next Friday. :)

Coooooooolll.... now to get the money together 8 ) thanks Mike

Well....confusing... "The estimated shipping date of Vue 4 in North America is June 22, 2001." Estimated? Pre order? Is this by fax, or actual on line credit card? It is still upsetting, because my relative that bought Vue3 for me got it earlier this year, before any discount dates... so I would have to pay full price, which does not seem fair... :( Sara

Sara, as far as I know, you can order it right now through E-on's website, and it appears to be almost certain that it will begin shipping on June 22. Also, you could order via telephone. As for fax, I don't know, but you could email them and ask them. :) As for the upgrade offer regarding date of purchase of Vue 3.1, well, you have to figure, they have to draw the line somewhere. If they backed the date up a couple of months, then people would ask why not further.... Sorry I can't be of more help, but I don't work for E-on. I'm just some guy who loves Vue, and when they ask me to post a message, I do. I'm very sorry I have no more information or explanations. :(

Rumor control here... Estimated ship date is a safe date by which we will have packages to send out to customers. In fact, units might get shipped out even BEFORE June 22. The secretive Vue gnomes are hard at work, putting little green random seeds in SolidGrowth seed packets... Best regards, Lynn Fredricks e-on software US Business Unit

OOO...Lynn!!! Since I paid to have it overnight shipped to where I work, I'd love it if it could go out by Thursday so I can take it home Friday and have it to play with for the weekend (hint, hint!!...Steve Taylor...hint, hint...look for the order...hint hint!!!) SMT

LOL! I was trying to be very careful about how I had worded that, which is why I said "almost certain", but it's good to hear the gnomes are busily packing those seeds away. I just KNOW one of those seed packs has my name on it.... :) And yeah, Steve, I'm thinking just like you are--- I really hope all goes as planned and I too can be playing with it next weekend. I'm waiting until I know for certain that it will be shipped the next day after I order it because I can't be home to wait unless I know absolutely for certain it's on it's way. And the UPS terminal is way to much of a pain in the a** for me to go to if I have to go pick it up because I weren't here when it arrived. And you know, assuming I can have Vue 4 next Friday or Saturday, going to work on Monday will be a h HUGE drag!

Well, first I read one post, and was ready to RUN to view to get my vue 4 and get it shipped overnight, NOW...but then I read Lynn's post..something about little seeds... so I guess it is indeed not done... and ready to ship, maybe not even on the 22nd... so here is my request to you all in the forum: TELL ME WHEN ONE OF YOU HERE IN THE USA HAS VUE 4 IN HAND... and then I will RUN to get it.... okay?? This is not good for my heart.. I am going to settle back to learning 3, and TRYING to be more patient! (and more accepting of the harsh realities of pricing in this world) Sara