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Subject: Polarized 3d Images?


regaltwo ( ) posted Tue, 06 May 2008 at 3:19 PM · edited Mon, 23 December 2024 at 11:33 AM

I know you can do 3d images using Poser, and the Analglyph maker, but the problem with these analglphs, as I understand it, is that since you are using a red lense over 1 eye and a blue for the other, you can't really get color.  I was reading, though, that Disney uses a Polarized system which does allow color.  I was wondering if it was possible to use Poser to create print images using this approach, that could then be viewed with the Polarized glasses?   Or does this process only work for projected images?


vince3 ( ) posted Tue, 06 May 2008 at 3:23 PM · edited Tue, 06 May 2008 at 3:32 PM

you should google "lenticular printing"

no need for glasses.


ockham ( ) posted Tue, 06 May 2008 at 3:36 PM · edited Tue, 06 May 2008 at 3:44 PM

It should be possible.  It's just a matter of taking two camera shots and
interlacing them into a mixed image.  When this came up in an earlier
thread I looked at the info, to see if I could turn my old Anaglyph thing
to the new purpose.   I couldn't find a definite statement of exactly what
camera angles should be used, and exactly how to interlace.  If somebody
can clarify those points, I could probably modify my Anaglyph thing.

Edit: when I say "how to interlace" I don't mean the programming details;
I know how to make it happen.  I mean the details of how many pixels
each column should cover, or percent of width, or however it's defined.

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vince3 ( ) posted Tue, 06 May 2008 at 3:56 PM

ockham,

i have a freebie anaglyth maker (3D stereo image) i'll try and find a link for ya, so you can compare, it works brilliantly with renders aswell as photos,

the basic 3d stereo image will have a right eye render, and the left eye render roughly 8cm apart, so camera movement will just be along the x-axis,but that is very basic, as you can also add rotation to the image and also zoom, but with the anaglyth software that is very much trial and error, either works or don't, it is useful though to learn how to make lenticular images.

now, the modern version is  being converted to lenticular prints, which can even apply an animation to the image if desired, benifit of lenticular is that you get full vibrant colours, plus the 3d effect better than it has ever been, with variables like rotating around or under objects, whatever you want really, and then the average joe can enjoy your image too as they don't need any special glasses to view it.

 

 


vince3 ( ) posted Tue, 06 May 2008 at 4:04 PM

Attached Link: http://www.humaneyes.com/

here a place with some info for now.


vince3 ( ) posted Tue, 06 May 2008 at 4:14 PM

Attached Link: http://www.stereoeye.jp/software/index_e.html

here is the one i have been playing with,

as for printing though you will have to shop around like any other printing there are a million places and a million different prices.


ockham ( ) posted Tue, 06 May 2008 at 4:23 PM

Excellent program!  Now I don't have to do anything! :)

(If you could add a command-line startup to the EXE, I could rig a simple Python
to run it directly from Poser, which would make animated 3D easier.)

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regaltwo ( ) posted Tue, 06 May 2008 at 4:34 PM

Very cool!  Thanks a bunch.   Renderosity people always have the answers!  :)


jackhalsey ( ) posted Tue, 06 May 2008 at 4:40 PM

Yes Ockham a world famous Ockham poser python script for 3d would be very very handy,

The human eyes program is ONLY for MAC and I wrote them and they told me there are no plans to bring it to PC.....so I guess you would have to use that virtualware which never worked for me at all...


vince3 ( ) posted Wed, 07 May 2008 at 4:15 AM · edited Wed, 07 May 2008 at 4:19 AM

Attached Link: http://www.promagic.net/ldesigner.html

no problemo.

jack,

  yeah, sorry i have a couple of links to lenticular software that i have not been able to download the demo from, that humaneyes link just seemed to have a bit of info in the "support" bit, so it was only actually to show what can be done,

you can get good results with that "freeeee" stereoeye links software,  you can even export .png elements from  your various softwares, which you can then layer in photoshop for variable depth and rotation effects, then flatten both the left and right versions, save as a .bmps, bring them into that stereo software, so it helps to learn how the lenticular stuff is gonna work.

anyway here is another link to another lenticular one that, i can't get to download the demo of either, but it might work for someone else, it mentions that their software supports upto about 50 layers, so that sounds like you can do quite a bit of depth and motion in there or get a fifty frame anim in there, so it sounds very interesting.

if anyone ever gets a link to a demo of a quality looking lenticular software, can you please post it here. there has got to be one somewhere because this stuff is all the rage at the mo' , with posters , mouse mats, etc... probally even lenticular underpants by now (if not why not?) so there has to be at least one software out there that is working and makin' all that stuff. 


jackhalsey ( ) posted Wed, 07 May 2008 at 11:02 AM

vince 3

Just heard from humaneyes again and they said they MIGHT have a pc version out in 2009 but I have heard that since around 2007 for I wouldnt hold my breath.

Do you or anybody have any ideas of how to make the 3d movies like they did the effects for in like "House of Wax," the 50s version.  I have seen it several times in revival using those blue/red glasses and was amazed at how good some of the 3d effects "Pop out of the screen" were.

I figured somebody might have something like that out for pc since that technology is well over 50 years ago.

The best 3d I ever saw was in an unknown film "The Zoo," which was weird and didnt have much of a plot but there is this scene in a bar where the bartender buts several bears on a tray and they float out into the audience and hover right in front of you..again using way old technology.

Lets keep this thread alive.

Thank you everybody for your contributions.


muralist ( ) posted Wed, 07 May 2008 at 11:30 AM

Here's some more information:

Art of Digital 3D Stereoscopic Film
http://www.fxguide.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=471


jackhalsey ( ) posted Wed, 07 May 2008 at 11:35 AM

Thanks muralist.


vince3 ( ) posted Wed, 07 May 2008 at 6:23 PM

great link there muralist, nice one!!

didn't know quite so many film makers were experimenting with it, i knew that sports broadcasters were looking at it, but are being very quiet about it, only allowing a select few (probally sports celebs) to view it, at private broadcasts, they mention one going on at the recent six nations tournament (rugby), seems like they are treating it a bit snobbilly, so its nice to read that there are a few films in production at the mo' , so everyone can get to see where it's at nowadays.

definately want to see Pixars works get the 3D treatment, i think that will work well and be very impressive.

i wonder how well they are gonna transfer to the average telly though, i've only just conerted to an LCD HD telly, but it sounds like that isn't gonna cut it when these films start pickin' up, would explain why LCDs and plasmas have been coming down quite a lot recently, if there is a new type telly on its way.


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