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Subject: .obz and .obj question


Darboshanski ( ) posted Wed, 02 July 2008 at 5:56 PM · edited Mon, 23 December 2024 at 10:16 AM

Ok help me to understand something. I have an article of clothing where per the vendor I bought it from has it going into the props folder of Poser 7 and not the Character folder BUT the article of clothing conforms to the figure and is not dynamic I just wanted to give a brief background on the what I was using when I noticed this little problem.

Anyway, I conform the clothing to my figure and save my scene and close it. When I go back to open the scene again poser throws a fit telling me to find the xxx.obj file but the clothing has an .obz file so why would poser be asking for this if there is not .obj file to speak of? I thought poser read both .obj and .obz files?

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nghayward ( ) posted Wed, 02 July 2008 at 6:07 PM

A lot of the clothing by EFrontier/Smith Micro is like that especially all the G2 figures. But I've never noticed that problem when saving a scene. Is it located in an external runtime? and what file search level is set in the general preferences (Library Tab)


shuy ( ) posted Wed, 02 July 2008 at 6:37 PM

If you change obz extension you can easy extract obj with winrar (or zip - do not remember atm). I really do not know why Poser use this option. Obj files are usually small and compressing them does not save much HD space.


lesbentley ( ) posted Wed, 02 July 2008 at 7:19 PM

I had this happen just a couple of days ago. Not sure why it happens, but my solution was just to convert the obz to an obj. I have a small utility called "PoserCom", which will convert compressed/uncompressed Poser file either way, and gives you an option to delete the original file. It can work on individual files or whole directories. Unfortunately I don't remember where I got it, and don't have a link.


onnetz ( ) posted Wed, 02 July 2008 at 7:23 PM

Poser compresses files to the gzip format. So any program that will uncompress those will work.

.obj files can be very small or very large(depending on the model) and are nothing but plain text. So compressing them will save a lot of disk space.

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Acadia ( ) posted Wed, 02 July 2008 at 8:36 PM

I asked this a week or so ago. I think the answer has to do with direct paths.  You can edit the .cr2 file or just search for the file was poser request it, which is what I do. Or as has been suggested, uncompress that geometry file and let Poser find it on its own.

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Darboshanski ( ) posted Thu, 03 July 2008 at 7:56 AM

My search setting is set to deep and it appears that only this piece of clothing is doing this.

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Acadia ( ) posted Thu, 03 July 2008 at 2:08 PM

If it's only one file, then just manually search for it when Poser asks for it. Or you can edit the absolute path in the .cr2 to point poser to the .obz file.

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nghayward ( ) posted Thu, 03 July 2008 at 2:41 PM · edited Thu, 03 July 2008 at 2:47 PM

If the files are compressed then it will be a crz as well not a cr2. and PaganArtist said it was the scene (pz3) not the figure (cr2/z) that caused the problem. (Correction it was a prop so it's a ppz)(I confusing myself now)

I'm going to try an experiment with some compressed files later what was rthe name of the  product you were using I may have the same one.


Darboshanski ( ) posted Thu, 03 July 2008 at 2:48 PM

There are no .cr2 files with this clothing the vendor created them to live in the props folder and they are not dynamic clothing they conform. The files for this piece of clothing are:
.obz
.ppz
.png

I have bought clothing from this vendor before and never had a problem until my recent purchases from the same vendor all the older clothes I have bought from him has the same file set up and poser doesn't ask for .obj files when I used them. When I first bring the clothing into poser there is no problem poser doesn't ask for the .obj files it's when I save the scene and then re open it that poser screams for the .obj files. As I said the earlier clothing I've bought from this vendor never did this.

I have this clothing item in an external runtime like the rest of the clothing.

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Darboshanski ( ) posted Thu, 03 July 2008 at 2:50 PM

Quote - If the files are compressed then it will be a crz as well not a cr2. and PaganArtist said it was the scene (pz3) not the figure (cr2/z) that caused the problem. (Correction it was a prop so it's a ppz)(I confusing myself now)

I'm going to try an experiment with some compressed files later what was rthe name of the  product you were using I may have the same one.

It is the Mysterious Bikini for V4 by 9mbi as a matter of fact all the recent purchases from him has been doing the same thing.

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nghayward ( ) posted Thu, 03 July 2008 at 3:33 PM · edited Thu, 03 July 2008 at 3:35 PM

I have been able to replicate the problem by editing a the reference in a ppz. It doesn't matter if it is a obj or obz the fault lies in the way it is referenced. And the fact that the search done by poser for OBJ's does not include the prop library.

I removed the path from the obj reference and as it was in the same folder as the ppz poser could find it. When the scene is saved the pz3 contains just the obj name (even though it is a obz) as there is no path information and the obz is not in the same folder as the scene, poser has to do a search. Poser could not find an obj or obz in the props library. But if it is copied to the figures library or the geometries library it can be found.

Obviously when they decided to move the conforming clothing to the props library  and place obj files outside the geometries folder, they forgot to add the props library to the search. 

You could also argue  the clothing creator should have included the path in the ppz


nghayward ( ) posted Thu, 03 July 2008 at 3:37 PM

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It is the Mysterious Bikini for V4 by 9mbi as a matter of fact all the recent purchases from him has been doing the same thing.

Have you let 9mbi know about the problem so it can be corrected.


Darboshanski ( ) posted Thu, 03 July 2008 at 4:22 PM

I have informed 9mbi of the situation and wait for a reply. I use note pad lite for my text editor and it could not open the .obz  and the .ppz files in a plain text.

Thanks for all your help nghayward!

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PAnn ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2008 at 12:39 AM

I came searching tonight for this same question and it seems I have also purchased from this same artist and am running into the same problem. I have been googling what these file extensions are and was trying to figure out how to create a texture map and no way can I get something loaded. I am also lost how to deal with this. I have a dress doing the exact same thing as Pagan Artist's bikini and would also like to figure out what to do because I have about 5 other purchases from the same artist and don't know what to do with them now.  The dress is called a "ppbinaryfile" and is in the prop folder but when you load it you have to conform it and then there is also  another file with the extension obz in the same file. So I will wait patiently to see if there is some answer to this as well or whether the extensions can be renamed and moved around or something. I am not experienced enough to do stuff" when it doesn't fit into my nice little easy learning pattern of pp2 or obj file etc.


PAnn ( ) posted Wed, 16 July 2008 at 10:47 PM

I emailed 9mbi with a question as to how to get a texture map for his dress because i could not get anything loaded into UVmapper.  He/she said that the obz file had been sent compressed but I could run a python a script which I found in Poser 7 (and he said it was in Poser 6) to uncompress the obz to give me an obj. Since a newbie at this, the script asks you the directory you want to uncompress and stupid me pointed it in the direction where I had the dress and now I am royally scr*wed. It has taken all my props files and turned them into "poser content" files and I don't know what other damage I have done. Can I put my prop file in a separate location and direct the python script to go and compres them all again????? HELP Haqve I messed up anything else that Ishould know about??? I knew there was a reason I don't mess around with stuff because I don't now how to fix it.

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