i have finally figured out I really don't like this place anymore. it used to be a nice friendly open site, but now its come to be a micro-moderated, fry folks at the earliest opportunity place.

No loss. Its been one of my favorite places since its inception, but like most of the old timers, we slowly fall away.

You all have fun now, ya hear? and don't say too much or you'll get yourself slapped around.

I'll be downloadin my purchased stuff, and will bid you all a fond farewell. Too bad you mods take your shit so seriously.

I'll stick around long enough to read all your sobbing farewell messages to me.

bye then

see you in a month or to when you come back... as is the wont of the big 'I'm leaving FOREVAH!!!!' posters.....

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Yep.

:sad:

ach don't worry Acadia.. he'll be back... they always come back...

not this time.
when a mod threatens with legal mumbo jumbo in a forum, or even insinuates its a possibility, that about takes the cake. Its not the right place for me.

 you took 30 minutes to come back....

BAD khai.. stop playing with the upset person...slap

I'm sticking around for all the sobs and stuff.
of course I need to respond to whatever is posted...
then we'll throw the forget me nots and play taps....followed by a great barbecue meal with some beer and loud rock and roll music.

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Oh! Come to Winnipeg! I'm having BBQ ribs on Sunday to celebrate being debt free. There will also be beer!!

why not just pm your friends to tell them how to get hold of you then go ? what's with all the drama ?

because I don't have any friends, at least listed, and I'm not about to try and find all the addresses.
and what's life without drama anyway?

and Acadia...I don't need to work Sunday, so maybe I'll fly over there and take you up on those ribs :) debt free...now there's an interesting concept.

dave, my apologies if they've been unfriendly to ya here.  I dunno yer particular
circumstances nor the specific thread in which they were unfriendly, but it's like
I keep asking them: how hard is it just to be friendly?

i will say in all defense of those running the show here, I do say what I think, and sometimes it may be off base... no doubt about it, or not always thought out, and sometimes too general, and quite often right on the mark, and quite often it rubs someone the wrong way ... and that is the way it is in life. But all the political correctness, trying to tie down the place so all is just all clean and tidy like, is a bit much, especially on the web.

I'm pretty much a free minded person, and think that if a site is for creative people, it goes to all about it..the art, the talk, etc. , not holding it down for a few that need to have it all clean and churchy. If someone doesn't want to look at female natural made parts like god created, then they shouldn't be here...or at least not look at the galleries, especially with their kid on their lap or at work..simple as that.

same as in the forums...sometimes people say things off the cuff, maybe some like to troll a bit and get folks riled up, but now anything that appears to raise a little heat gets wacked. and when mods start throwing around legaleese to avert the flow, or maybe an incorrect assumption, to intimidate or threaten posters with legal action or the possibility of same, or even hang the thought out there, that is plainly too much in my book. I don't even care if the accusations are true...when it comes to legal action in a forum, that is just a bit too much.

I haven't agreed with the direction this place has been taking in quite awhile, it's nothing new. And yes, I have left before...only once that I can remember, though, and I did come back, obviously, but my mouth has this totally shitty taste in it when I participate here, and I cannot hold my thoughts to myself, so its just better for everyone if I do not post anymore.

I still love a lot of the products in the store, and will more than likely still buy a few things from my favorite vendors, unless they can be purchased elsewhere. My gallery is already pulled.

nuff said.

So have a beer on me and adioski

Dave-so, you have been with us as long as I can remember, I have been here long too.  Yes, we are old timers, but good ones.  Are you sure you want to leave?  Can you brush it off, you know life is to short to hold this in.  So many of us that started here have either left on their own or have passed on, good peoples too.

Hope you change your mind.  Sharen:unsure:

OOO what hair prop is that?

All G, There are very few of us old timers still here. You will be missed.

Legal action? WTF?  Can anyone link to that?  I know I missed something! @____@;

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2748007

Sure can, read quick it before it disappears down the memory hole.

See the locking post for the gratuitous quote from the TOS.

that thread was what started it...my peachy thread created clamour directed at me...something about  I was commiting libel , or on the edge of, or however that's termed.

Acadia, Winnipeg is a long way from Melbourne, Australia. Otherwise I would rock along.

Yeah the Libel accusation was a riot.  People around here just make up legal definitions wherever it suits them, even in instances where precedent has not even been established - many many self appointed experts here - in many fields....

Sorry to see you go.

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BAD khai.. stop playing with the upset person...slap

!
Yeah, that's usually my job, and you're stealing my thunder! :tt2:   Bad kitt... I mean Bad Khai

Dave-so, take a bit of time to recoup and refresh, and remember, things do blow over, and some days the mods are stricter then other days, as they are human too.

Like Connie says recoup and refresh with a six pack...eh make it a twelve pack, a couple of cigars and the official Renderosity song  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n9prNixjbg

'Sides if you leave the Poser forum,  you'll be missing one of the best soap operas around.

Quote - Like Connie says recoup and refresh with a six pack...eh make it a twelve pack, a couple of cigars and the official Renderosity song  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n9prNixjbg

'Sides if you leave the Poser forum,  you'll be missing one of the best soap operas around.

And if he comes back after too long, it'll take us forever to brief him about whom is friends at the moment, and whom is fighting with whom.

I'm having enough of a hard time trying to keep track just whom I'm supposed to be mad at and whom is mad at me. :rolleyes:

I'm not mad at anyone. I have Ice Cream!

rocky top is the official song?  heh i used to play that in a band i was in...fun fast song

yeah that seemed like an odd thread to lock.
i see occasional censorship and intolerance here too, but i see it everywhere in everyone some time or another.  including me.  all i can say is we're all in this together.  the person you can't stand today may be your best friend tomorrow or the other way around.

hope you return soon.

Amusing that it started over something as meaningless as gallery comments.
Although I have to admit that sometimes I put an image up for a week or two just to see if I'm popular yet. :)
I'm not.

I understand where Dave-So is coming from and how he feels. Some Mods here IMHO don't do anything when an issue is brought up and when they do something it is against the person who brought it to the attention of the Mods. I think what is the problem here is the TOS gets defined differently by each Mod and by the End users.
This is supposed to be a community based site right? Well I feel it is starting to be a more for profit site than what it used to be when it first started. Daz's forums are more friendly than they are here lately, even going through all their clutter to find anything useful among the 1000's of "commercial" threads there. 
IMHO I think Dave-so  is going a little over board on the saying good bye, nothing against you, but saying good bye is not the way to handle the situation.  Doing this way sounds like you are whining ( I know I have done so in the past). Face the facts, the Mods should be called Gods and we should praise them as the almighty beings they believe they are. Cause sooner or later even Gods fall.

Y'all must not know what true "crack-down moderation (read: crack-heads moderation) " type  boards are actually like.  On such boards, a thread such as this one would have disappeared within minutes of the original posting, and the OP likely permanently banned out-of-hand.

The mods don't operate like that around here.......the mods around here are constantly striving for "balance" in their moderation.  They don't want to go too far over into instantly deleted posts / threads and automatic bannings / warnings: but nor do they want the forum to devolve into total verbal-knife-fighting chaos - which has been the death of other boards.  The problem is that whenever you are dealing with the public in large numbers, you end up having to deal with all sorts of individuals -- with all sorts of temperaments and personal preferences.  The members don't agree among themselves as to how things "ought to be done".  One man's "fair play on words", is another man's "deadly insult" -- and the mods are left to try to reconcile the two.  True, you can't let whiners take over & run the show: but at the same time, the security guards at your local shopping mall don't allow chain-whirling gang fights to go on in the parking lot, either.  So.......the mods seek after an elusive thing called "balance".  It's not easy for them to do.  And occasionally someone will get mad about it.

Frankly, I don't envy the mods their jobs.  It's tough.  And it's usually totally thankless.  Plus the mods can occasionally find themselves being outright personally attacked in the forums -- in postings and in threads which on a truly hard-moderated board would never, ever see the light of day.

It's nowhere near as "oppressive" here as some of y'all think.  But, hey -- if you want to participate on boards where regular, un-refereed knife-fights are the order of the day: then such boards exist: awaiting your addition to the noise.  Just watch your back.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?pagewanted=1

so are u saying the mods are more trolls than the trolls?

whining... yes, that it appears to be for me. But like I said, this place makes me ill quite often, but I also have a hard time leaving. probaably casue I've been here since the beginning. My birth date doesn't reflect the fact I was here before then using a different name.

*""I understand where Dave-So is coming from and how he feels. Some Mods here IMHO don't do anything when an issue is brought up and when they do something it is against the person who brought it to the attention of the Mods. I think what is the problem here is the TOS gets defined differently by each Mod and by the End users.""

*Personally experienced this here and couldn't agree more. 
The real problem currently is that there really isn't anywhere else to go.  The other forums here aside from Poser are generally useless, The gallery is a joke - comment club running rampant, The Marketplace.....  well I just purchased another 45$ worth of items and one of the textures included in one is a very hard core sex scene.  (no it was not a sex related item) - not to mention the numerous copyright infringements that were within the textures.  Certain very popular venders can't seem to put together a single pose pack that doesn't change body shape, yet the marketplace is full of thier stuff.  Gogo testing.

But you can't say anything about this.  Nobody cares and all they will say is "If you don't like it leave."  Apparently Dave-So has finally decided that is what he will do.  Incredibly productive....

Quote - so are u saying the mods are more trolls than the trolls?

No.....I'm saying that the mod's job is -- in part -- to shut down the activities of the real trolls.

I've stated this elsewhere, but it bears repeating here: the term "troll" is one of the most over-used and misused terms on the internet today.  Most people who like to refer to others as "trolls" in the forums frankly don't have the slightest clue as to what a real troll actually is & does.

"Troll" is often used to mean:

1.  Someone who I can't beat in an open debate, so I'll call them names instead.
2.  Someone whose point of view doesn't jive with mine, so therefore they must be a "troll" by definition.
3.  Someone that I don't personally like.
4.  Someone who is too outspoken for my tastes.
5.  Someone who I think is too negative.

None of those things a "troll" make.  I suggest reading the article linked to above to learn what a true internet troll actually is, in today's web-culture context.  The true "troll" begins with a desire to inflict emotional pain on others for the sheer joy -- the "lulz" -- which comes from someone else's distress.  Of course, there are minor trolls and major trolls -- and medium-sized trolls.  The worst of them have no empathy whatsoever for anyone.

But a "troll" isn't a fellow forumite with whom you happen to have a strong disagreement......or who disagrees strongly with you.

Quote - whining... yes, that it appears to be for me. But like I said, this place makes me ill quite often, but I also have a hard time leaving. probaably casue I've been here since the beginning. My birth date doesn't reflect the fact I was here before then using a different name.

Your choice to leave or to stay is entirely your own.  And either choice is a legitimate one.......depending upon the underlying reasons.  And only you know those reasons for certain.

But hey, as they say: it's a free country.  We have the liberty to come and to go where we like, when we like.  But even in a "free" country: I still can't always do exactly what I like.........especially when my actions (or even my words) might affect others -- either directly or indirectly.

And there -- in a microcosm -- is the rub which the mods have to deal with every day.  Many people don't like police officers.  Until such time as they need one.

Quote - But you can't say anything about this.

You just said it. 

*rocky top is the official song?  heh i used to play that in a band i was in...fun fast song

Yep!  It all happened one weekend and what a weekend it was!  Only wish I could remember more...

*"Quote - "But you can't say anything about this."

You just said it.  ""*

I know Im waiting patiently for the viscious flogging.  God knows us nobodies have no right to an opinion :p

**I'm nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody, too?
Then there's a pair of us - don't tell!
They'd banish us, you know! How dreary to be somebody!
How public like a frog
To tell one's name the livelong day
To an admiring bog! **

Emily Dickenson

Everytime I've ever left Rosity, Nobody has been the only one who noticed I was gone. That's cuz I never announce my departures or arrivals. :tt2:

*Everytime I've ever left Rosity, Nobody has been the only one who noticed I was gone

Who is this individual named Nobody that you speak of? 

uh oh, I thought this was the beer thread...
pawdon meeeow... it must have been another one.

Quote - I know Im waiting patiently for the viscious flogging.

Awaiting a viscous flogging?  I'll admit that getting flogged with oil and / or glue would likely make a huge mess.

Quote - **I'm nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody, too?
Then there's a pair of us - don't tell!
They'd banish us, you know! How dreary to be somebody!
How public like a frog
To tell one's name the livelong day
To an admiring bog! **

Emily Dickenson

I like this one:

Antigonish

As I was walking up the stair
I met a man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
I wish, I wish he'd stay away.

-- Hughes Mearns

"Nobody" was the name that Jason claimed was his own, when he was asked by the Cyclops.

Hello, I must be going.
I cannot stay,
I came to say
I must be going.
I'm glad I came
but just the same
I must be going.
For my sake you must stay,
for if you go away,
you'll spoil this party
I am throwing.

I'll stay a week or two,
I'll stay the summer through,
but I am telling you,
I must be going.

My name is Sam
would you like
green eggs and ham?

This is beginning to sound like a church I was a member of long ago...

Quote - uh oh, I thought this was the beer thread...
pawdon meeeow... it must have been another one.

Sprays the Kitty's tail with beer flavored silly string as she tries to slink away.

Absolutely. Around here you can get more than one of these (only slightly ammended from the original) and still be a member of nine years "standing". (bloody hell, that's nearly a frelling decade).

The leave-stay balance is yours to assess, but you have to admit the lure of stay won't leave easily.
.

then again.....
someone could easily wipe the slate clean and return again under another username.....:m_redfaced:

Oh no!  What will we do without you?

believe me when I say you didn't know before and no one will care, what 5 seconds after they saw my post I was leaving ? and 99.999999% of the people here could care less.

Quote - Oh no!  What will we do without you?