Today was no doubt a great disappointment to the various loons, pseudo-skeptics and pseudo-scientists, when the world did not come to a spectacular end.

Nourished no doubt by the oxygen of the Internet, a technological marvel that arose because of the LHC's predecessor, these nay-sayers squandered their allotted fifteen minutes of fame by trying to stop a process on Earth that occurs naturally in the upper atmosphere, each and every day.

While continuing to enjoy the fruits of scientific enquiry even as they oppose it, we can only hope that these skeptics will be amazed by the knowledge and its application that the LDC promises to bring.

(Having nailed his colours to the flag pole, he retires to a safe distance to watch the inevitable light show...)

Oh no, this thing has to appear in every single forum doesn't it -.-

I personally hope that it shows and proofs the public-science and -scientists how wrong they were about certain, fundamental things.

:-)

Of course it will, that's the point of it.

Theories are used to make predictions and those predictions are tested. The theory remains valid until evidence shows that it is not, then a new theory is used to make predictions and these are tested in turn.

An exciting day indeed !!!

Hmm yes but technically it won't build up to the "big bang" until about January next year!!

So make sure you have a good new year celebration, it just might be your last!!!

Oh and by the way, they haven't even done a "collision" with their tool yet, so...

don't forget that the more public the assumption that this tool could kill the earth, the more unlikely that it is actually possible, think about it ;) and if you understand who really rules this world, you know they wouldn't allow this kind of danger anyway, so no worries about that folks.

PS:What is really ruining the world shortterm based is the sun.

The Cosmic rays hitting the Earth at this very moment have higher energies than the LHC, so the collisions have already been taking place for billions of years.

All that changed now is we get to see them and measure them!

1. There's too many uneducated loonies in this world. They should STFU unless they go learn, and this does not mean reading Blogs of 'tards and exploitive tabloid newspapers.
   

I was poor (for the UK that is!), denied university education (cause of political crap in the 80s, man I DESPISE the Tories)
Yet the library was free, and so was aksing people questions..I learned a LOT.

1. I still suggest there is a risk, but it's a TINY one. The risk comes from a simple, glaringly over-looked fact:
   We've never created such a thing before, thus to say we KNOW there's no dangers is ridiculous! That's not Science, that's belief to say there's absolutely no risk.
   Imperical evidience of safety will only come from long term use with no harm.

But all the indications are, the risk is tiny.

Over population is a vaslty greater threat, and unless we get practical space travel and education for all, we're doomed.

1. Yeah they only turned the power on (so to speak), so give it a few months ;)

Very interesting experiment :)

I was really amused at reading those doomsayers warnings (they even went to courts in the US and Europe to try to stop the LHC).

They were fearing that the LHC would create something (a black hole or a stranglet or cause the decay of the false vacuum) which would kill all us.

Kill all us... so what is the difference? aren't we all sentenced to die? sucked into a black hole or lying on a hospital bed? I assure you that the black hole option is much quicker...

Signed: one of the 6+ billion Earth Maximum Security Correctional Center death row inmates.

P.S.: the actual high energy experiments won't start until next year so we still have some very slight chances to spare ourseleves the hospital bed...

1) "This will change everything we know about physics!"
2) "No it isn't a danger."
3) "We know 2) is true because of everything we know about physics."

:)

MyCat,

Quote - 3) "We know 2) is true because of everything we know about physics."

*Assumption is the mother of all f' ups! ;)

If we knew everything about physics, we wouldn't need the LHC, ergo, your statement is false.

Not saying it's "Doomsday", just pointing out the fault of talking our Scientific knowledge without a large dose of "Reality" salt ;)

We Humans know this much about the Universe   --> . <--**

**Give us a few million years of learning, before we can actually be so cocky about things ;)
I love Science, but we have no right or reason to be cocksure about anything.

Actually the statement was, in context, everything we know about physics, not that we know everything about physics. Even then, as physics is a branch of human knowledge, and is the creation of humans, we must know everything about physics, as physics is our created pool of knowledge. So, we must know everything about physics. In other words, we must know (not that any individual knows the entire sum of physics) all of that which is in that pool of knowledge which we filled in the first place.

What is false is: we know everything about the nature of the universe, or the subjects of physics. This isn't BS, it's epistemology.

Before the first nuclear bomb was exploded, quite a few scientists were convinced that the A-Bomb would trigger an atmospheric chain reaction, and destroy the earth.

As MarkHirst conceptualized, there are far greater energy interactions occurring throughout the universe, on a massively greater scale, and billions of scary little black holes don't seem to be created from these interactions.
;-)

Surprised no one realizes that the world did end. But as everything was sucked into the black hole, and into a new universe, everything appears  exactly the same. Only a handful of officials know this and they are keeping it a secret, the largest coverup of all time! 

After somebody pointed out this web site:

<a href="http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/"><span style="font-family:Arial;">http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/</span></a><span style="font-family:Arial;"><br></br><br></br>I thought somebody should create a money making web site using Google ads and stuff:<br></br><br></br>This is my first draft:<br></br></span>
"

The doomsayers are sponges blindly flaming fires of destruction and the supporters are just as bad IMO.  They quote the scientists so much that they appear to be scientists themselves.  The truth is that when the first A bomb was tested a group of scientists concluded that there was a "chance" that it could destroy the planet but they proceed anyway.  So is there a chance this time?  Probably, am I going to spread unfounded rumors on both fronts and help the uneducated that are for or against this?  Nope, let them do as they will, none of us has any control in the matter at all so it's pointless.

That's my take on it guys.

Just noticed this Vue topic.  Since it's the 17th, I must have missed something.  Like the end of the world.  But my question is:  Can this be done in Vue 6I  or do we need the update???????  :)

Osper,
by Vue 15, I'm we will be able to recreate the actual experiment direclty, with particles as well! ;)
"Turn your PC into a TARDIS with Vue15!" :thumbupboth:

oh, yer avatar Pic, that's Interplay's "red dragon" for the AD&D games from years ago, isn't it? :)

SB33: "oh, yer avatar Pic, that's Interplay's "red dragon" for the AD&D games from years ago, isn't it? :)"

No.  It's actually Daz's Dragon.   I made up a head shot and used it as a wallpaper until my wife freaked out one day.  "The computors looking at me."   In normal lighting you couldn't see anything until the lights were turned down/out then the eyes started to appear with the rest of the head as the ambient lighting went down.  Kind of like the Chesire Cat from ALice in You know where.

By the way: As of yesterday the Hadron thingie is broke.  It will take a couple of months to fix.  Maybe enough time to get that upgrade. :)