I was seeing this often when Renderosity had the router issue last summer. 

Now I see it again ... is's as if the entire page (or one of the images) doesn't get served to my browser. 

Please refer this image to the programmers. 

Comments ... please. 

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Martin

What version of Netscape are you using?

Netscape 7.2

This form of incomplete (incorrect) page load occurs ONLY from the Renderosity site -- it must be a site issue. 

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Martin

No offense intended...but, first things first, AOL (the proprieter of Netscape) discontinued the Netscape browser in March...and, at the time, it was at version 9.0.  Since then, IE, Firefox, Safari, and Opera have gone through some pretty major upgrades.  You can't possibly expect every site to keep backward compatibility with discontinued browsers, while trying to keep up to date with the browsers that ARE in distribution. 

Thanks, JenX.

Despite what you say, this is a Renderosity site issue ... an intermittent failure. 

Usually, the renderosity pages render just fine.  Once in a while, something happens that causes the menu options to display as shown in the image I provided in this thread -- and this is the same error as what I have provided in the past.

In the past, I took a look at the downloaded HTML code and found that the code was imcomplete, or garbaged up (repeating sequence of garbage characters) -- that is, it was a partial download of the generated HTML.  That is not a function of my browser ... not something that my browser can cause.  It's either a server error or a transmission error from your server or something going on at your co-lo. 

As I said before, I see this only from renderosity ... not from any other site. 

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Martin

Misloads happen occaisionally with the pages here no matter what the browser.
In this case it appears the JS that runs the menus hasn't loaded.

Always try a hard refresh (sometimes several may be necessary) to avoid broken stuff that's been cached.

Thanks to nruddock for confirming my observation. 

And yes,

Misloads happen occaisionally with the pages here no matter what the browser. 

... but not from any other sites that I visit ... therefore, this is a renderosity site issue ... and maybe, just maybe, the programmers ought to look into this issue. 

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Martin

Something similar happens very occasionally with the DAZ pages, and the CP pages.
Here the most common glitch is the background image not loading (used to be the reply editor not loading).

These loading/layout glitches are just something you have to put up with, they very likely aren't fixable, because they happen due to a combination of circumstances (browser state, network state, server state, and page complexity/non-conformant coding etc.) that makes them completely unreproducable.

MGD,

Is there a reason you're still on NS7.2 and haven't upgraded to the current version (9?)

It simply isn't possible for a site of this size and complexity to code for compatibility in every single browser and version out there. Netscape is so underused now that, along with Lynx, CrazyBrowser and Konqueror, it's simply not cost-effective to devote programming time to compatiblity.

KarenJ wondered,

Is there a reason you're still on NS7.2 and haven't upgraded?  

Yes, several reasons ...

[1] Netscape 7.2 includes an eMail client, but later versions don't.  I have 10 years of eMail available in thar client in about 400 subfolders and associated incoming filter rules.  If I updated, I would have to go though a conversion process ... with rather uncertain results. 

[2] ... likewise with bookmarks ...

[3] I'm comfortable (if that's exactly the right word) with Netscape's quirks ... [grin]

In any case, as nruddock confirmed in this thread, the missloads are independent from the browser.  

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Martin

How often are you getting it?

Now and then. 

The reason I bring it up is so that the site can be aware of the issue ... and try to fix it. 

Besides that, if I'm seeing this ... what else is going wrong? 

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Martin

p.s. I have worked as a computer programmer since 1958 ... and I never stopped working on a program until it was working to perfection. 

Kinda' like an artist working until his Art matches his Intention. 

Ummm, MGD (Martian), I doubt that you have been a computer programmer since 1958, as there weren't any such thing during the 50's or 60's . Perhaps in the 70's, later 70's.... perhaps you better check your birth certificate....  LOL :lol:

ThunderStone raised a question ...

I doubt that you have been a computer programmer since 1958,
as there weren't any such thing during the 50's or 60's. 

I have no idea where you got such a silly notion that there were no computers until the 1970's. 

[1] There were people working on theories of computers since the 1930's:

Vannevar Bush, analog computing, and also Memex (an early concept of hypertext); 

Alan Turing, Turing Test;

Claude Shannon, Information Theory;

"... he is also credited with founding both digital computer and digital circuit design theory in 1937, when, as a 21-year-old master's student at MIT, he wrote a thesis demonstrating that electrical application of Boolean algebra could construct and resolve any logical, numerical relationship. It has been claimed that this was the most important master's thesis of all time." [from the Wiki entry];

John von Neumann, von Neumann Architecture (the basis for virtually all stored program computers); ...

[2] There were stored program computers in the 1940's -- e.g., Eniac;  Harvard Mark I; ...

[3] There were stored program computers in the 1950's, Whirlwind; TX-0; and several comercial computers from IBM (650; 701; 704; 705; 709; ...), Univac; ... . 

[4] and many, many more from the late 1960's on. IBM 1401; 7030; 7070; 7080; 7090/7094; ...

[5] I could talk about programming languages, as well ...

The earliest that I was aware of computers was from reading an article about UNIVAC mercury delay line memory in a 1947 issue of Popular Mechanics. 

I recall reading a 1955 Scientific American article that described a Turing Machine. 

I learned to program on the TX-0 in 1958. 

I could go on ...

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Martin

Ok, Martin, but where did you learn to program the TX-0 and when? I find this fascinating, although I don't know why my parent wanted me to be a programmer when I was younger ( like a song sez, "I was cool when it wasn't cool to be cool") or something like that. What kind of memory did the TX-0 have? Oh please do go on. I would be interested in picking your brain bits and bytes.

The Wiki article for the TX-0 is accurate about where that computer was located in the fall of 1958. 

At that time, it had 4096 words of 18 bits of magnetic core memory installed. 

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Martin

p.s., Did you follow all of the links in my earlier message? 

So you attend MIT during the late 50's or early 60's??? That would make you now age wise in your late 60's or early 70's.... Fascinating!!!!  Gee, you must have seen the evolution of a room size computer to a desktop or even laptop size!  How about those amateur pre-Internet network of bbs?
Did you ever log on to any of those while you were pursuing your degree in programming? Did you ever program a software for those purposes? What do you think personally of all this? Did you ever think that programming would ever lead to this explosion in information technology as well as abuse of the technology?  What is your impression of the Tandy computer series? I am fascinated by those really first desktop computers and operating systems. I take it you know what those early operating systems were. 
 Really sir, you are a living legend if you have indeed been programming as long as you said you have.

You, sir are an icon to me.

... an icon

Thanks ...

Please take a look at this image in my gallery. 

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Martin

hmmm, but he never logged onto any of the art sites like you did... Renderosity is amiss in not giving you proper accord. We have a genuine legend in our midst, taking photographs??? Heck you could post a tutorial or 300 dozen of the sort, based on your expertise and talent.  Or a gallery full of your journey, from the MIT lab to present day of ancient computers and languages and persons of note... Oh what a series of interest that would make!

But I guess by now you're retired. So enjoy your retirement, sir.

Really I can't believe we have a legend in our midst!

Heck you could post a tutorial or 300 dozen of the sort,
based on your expertise and talent. 

Welllllll ... I do answer questions now and then on the Renderosity Hardware Forum ... and on the Art Theory Froum ...

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Martin

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