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Subject: Need a few testers for a redcoat uniform


lakota ( ) posted Mon, 22 September 2008 at 6:25 PM · edited Thu, 14 November 2024 at 2:00 PM

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I need some testers to go to war on this British 1812 uniform

It interested, please let me know

and I will send you the location of the zip file and password 

 

Thank you

 

Lakota

 

 


mtone ( ) posted Mon, 22 September 2008 at 7:37 PM

Which character is it for?


lakota ( ) posted Mon, 22 September 2008 at 7:45 PM

 Oh, I'm sorry it's for m3


ssgbryan ( ) posted Mon, 22 September 2008 at 10:09 PM

Well I am certainly interested.  anything but a skimpy dress for V4



jonnybode ( ) posted Tue, 23 September 2008 at 10:46 AM

Sure looks nice that uniform, ive sent you a PM.

Regards / Jonny



lakota ( ) posted Tue, 23 September 2008 at 8:06 PM

 Thanks for all the interest
I think I have a good team assembled now


AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Wed, 24 September 2008 at 4:39 AM

From what I recall, that's a soldier of a "flank" company, and the epaulettes would need to be smaller for a soldier from the rest of the Battalion. It's a long time since I did any reading on the subject (Sean Bean as "Sharpe"--excuse me whele I de-drool my keyboard), but apart from that option it looks pretty good. I wonder if the tails of the tunic are a little over-simplified.


pakled ( ) posted Wed, 24 September 2008 at 7:22 AM

probably depends; the coat went through a lot of evolution, at least since the early 18th century. I remember them being referred to as 'lobsterbacks', because of the tail part of the coat, but I'm hardly an expert on the uniform..;)

 I do seem to remember that armies of that era had coats in all sorts of colors, depending on the function of the unit. Might throw in some shades on the coat for different types of solder/sailor/marine, etc.

"Die hard men, Die hard" - exhorted by some officer in that general era...;) I'm a master of fuzzy information...;)

 

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


lakota ( ) posted Wed, 24 September 2008 at 7:36 AM

 I am just going by #20 of Osprey's Warrior Series "British Redcoat (2)" plate G


AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Wed, 24 September 2008 at 7:53 AM

Link to a picture showing the differences I mentioned The Osprey books are good, but there can be a lot buried in the text that isn't shown in the colour plates. The Light and Grenadier companies had the big epaulettes, known as "wings", the rest just had the little tufts at the end of the shoulder-straps.


bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 24 September 2008 at 8:39 AM

I see poke-through on the thighs in your first post.

The strap on the ribs is messed up.

Are these supposed to be toy soldiers made of plastic? If not fix the specular.


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lakota ( ) posted Wed, 24 September 2008 at 9:16 AM

Quote - Link to a picture showing the differences I mentioned The Osprey books are good, but there can be a lot buried in the text that isn't shown in the colour plates. The Light and Grenadier companies had the big epaulettes, known as "wings", the rest just had the little tufts at the end of the shoulder-straps.

I see your point. I might be able to morph them down a bit
or remove or hide them and create another character in a simple set
need the base to be more or less universal to make Canadian and American uniforms


AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Wed, 24 September 2008 at 9:46 AM

It's worth checking on campaign dress as well. There's likely to be a cover over the shako, which hides a lot of detail. Go for grey pants, rather than white. Add greatcoats and there's not much to distinguish one army from another.


lakota ( ) posted Wed, 24 September 2008 at 10:58 AM

 Right now the coatee and pants have no textures applied, just parts spec with those simple crayon colors. It gives it that nice rubbery or plastic look folk just love.

However, it does make uv mapping easier

I still have to fix a canteen and ol' bess and maybe leggings. The pants can morph for calvary boots, but I'm not thinking of making those. The is also a simple shirt as an alternative to the coatee.

As to campaign wear, that's a whole different set of stuff. You put some figure in a greatcoat and cover the shako with that water proof wrap, then you don't really need the coatee, shirt, or a detailed shako.


jugoth ( ) posted Wed, 24 September 2008 at 12:57 PM · edited Wed, 24 September 2008 at 12:58 PM

For the uniform is superb for now and don't try any fancy stuff yet, and i remember 37 years ago with couple friends modifying old airfix Waterloo figures to diff armies.
You can use this figure for portuguese soldiers as we supplied a lot of uniforms to portuguese and even to Prussia for some of its landwhere units.
That's where Britain's national debt started the napoleonic wars, a population of 6 million financing the other European armies against napoleon.
You can use that for non British units in 1812 period as some units had same uniform.
As the belts part of uniform in art program and darker uniform line to outside of belts to give it depth, as i have the old almark books and funkien books, even older uniform books.
I have never liked much of osprey.
Keep that as ya base uniform then slowly work on it to vary diff armies and styles, and 1 reason we have a lance corporal is because early in war in Spain against napoleon a Spanish lancer lost his horse and he attached himself to an infantry unit, as cavalry had higher status.
He had a rank higher than some inf.


Khai ( ) posted Wed, 24 September 2008 at 1:18 PM

Lakota, I'll ask my dad when I get a chance to look it over for you (the image you've posted). He's a military Artist and Historian.. with a passion for Napoleonics.


1812er ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2008 at 5:05 PM

I'm so please to have found this thread! I'm new to the whole 3D Animation thing, and I've been looking for War of 1812 Red Coats!
I've been working 10 years on a video history of the small community in which I was raised (http://beachvideo.info) and much of it is in the can. There were 2 incidents there in 1813. First was the American raid on a British Government installation, the King's Head Inn, and the burning of the Inn and the outbuildings. I have shot almost everything I need for that at re-enactments, and with the help of some US period army, navy, and marines. Burning the inn is gong to be a challenge, but I plan to do it with particleillusion.
A bigger challenge will be "The Burlington Races", a Lake Ontario battle between 2 squadrons, each of about 8 vessels, one squadron British and one American .  I'll be needing Red Coats of several regiments (historically selected!) American Army in the Blue and the Grey uniforms (they ran out of blue cloth), Officers on both sides, including Ship's Captains, and a Commodore on each side, but the regular seamen on both sides wore almost the same uniforms, or maybe, more accurately, non-uniforms!
I'm certainly not an expert on British period uniforms, but from my observations, some easy colour changes for the fabrics, some alternative badges for the Shakos, and an assortment of various fancy epaulettes and stripes across the chest, plus a number of different brass buttons, would make it easier to dress many British regiments, and a few extras, like kilts, different head gear, etc., would make it possible to match most regiments involved in the War of 1812 in North America.
I understand that the problem gets much bigger for the Napoleonic War with more British Regiments, and more countries involved, and I assume there are people around the world with an interest in the war in Europe, but since North America wasn't involved in that one, the preference in Canada and the USA would most likely be the War of 1812, especially in Upper Canada (Ontario), Lower Canada (Quebec), and the U.S. States involved first hand in the war here.
A couple of other things: from what I've seen in re-enactments in Ontario and New York, with many of the re-enactors coming from many eastern states, pants were baggy! I don't understand this tendency for most of the male figures I see for sale to wear very tight pants! Is it the Blue Jeans culture in which the younger people have grown up? Also, there were only 4 fabrics in those days: wool, cotton, linen, and silk, and soldier's uniforms weren't made of silk (maybe those of a few officers!). Lets lose the shine!
I regret that as a brand new practitioner in this hobby, I wouldn't make a good tester. But as a customer, I'd be among your very first buyers.
Please keep me informed regarding progress. And if you need any help finding photos of 1812 uniforms, I could help you find pictures of the different regimental uniforms on the internet.

Good Luck, and I'm pulling for you. Let me pull harder!


1812er ( ) posted Sat, 29 November 2008 at 11:03 AM

Attached Link: Fred Briggs

It's been 6 weeks since I added my 2 cents worth to this thread, and it looks like I killed it! It was going great guns for awhile, but no one else has added anything since September 28th. I keep watchng for the other shoe to drop, but nothing! I'm dying to hear an update from Lakota. Is this project still alive, finished, on hold for awhile, or dead in the water? I've been collecting a lot of  sailing ships, and other props for my project, but still haven't found a source for War of 1812 uniforms in Canada and the USA. Can anybody out there offer any suggestons.


jonnybode ( ) posted Sat, 29 November 2008 at 11:44 AM

Hi 1812er!

You didnt kill this thread :-)

Im one of the testers for Lakotas uniform and I can asure  you its a very nice outfit, i havent heard from the author in a while myself unfortunately.

Maybe he is busy with his "outsidethecomputer" life?

Regards / Jonny



1812er ( ) posted Sat, 29 November 2008 at 2:20 PM

"Outsidethecomputerlife"? What's that?!
Seriously, thanks for your answer. I'm looking forward to the results, and I know of many photos of  War of 1812 re-enactors on the internet. Of course, it's no secret. Anybody can google (unless their outsidethecomputerlife interferes!)


grichter ( ) posted Sat, 29 November 2008 at 2:33 PM

 I hope this becomes a marketplace product eventually. Have a need in the future for some male period costumes.

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"


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