What makes me laugh is these people who do video tutorials but not the old fashioned way of pictures and text, as their are millions of people around world have medical problems and don't watch vids.
I found my old tutorials to hand over  as their is 1 chap worked with his cousin uses vue and he is 55 but has mind of a 12 year old, he takes long time to do a vue picture but when done superb.
He can not like a lot people watch videos but if these places who do video tutorials are asked for old fashioned way, their brains explode.
So can we have tutorials done the old fashioned way as well, i don't like people with medical problems being penalised for not being able to watch videos and have fast reflexes.
So when ya do a vid tutorial think about those people around the world who cannot watch them and at least do some old fashioned pictures and text.
Remember when you do stuff its not only the average Joe who uses them but other people with problems.

I have also wanted to voice this problem - I find the volume on the videos often is not loud enough for my hearing ability and miss a lot because of that.   It would be nice to have a written text to go by - a lot less band width.  I am not sure if video tutorial makers write their scripts first or just comment as they go along.  I'd really like to have some pictures and word type tutorials.  Thank you to all the tutorial makers as I have learned things from them and appreciate the time that they have taken to help educate us.

Don't videos, by their very nature, have pictures?  After all, it is a moving picture.  Also, with videos there is always a pause button so the viewer can stop the movie and have his/her own still picture.  As far as text is concerned, is it because the viewer has no audio?

The availability of tutorials in plain text+images would be good not only for the minority of people who have problems viewing and listening but mainly for the vast majority of people who do not understand english (or not good enough to follow a video tut).
Using babelfish or some other online service, it's possible to translate a text (more or less...) but it's not possible to translate a video (at all).

On the other hand, doing tutorials the old fashioned way it's probably much slower and time consuming than recording a video. So, if we ask that from the tutorial makers, the most probable consequence would be that we would have less free tutorials, which would be bad for the majority of english speakers. Furthermore, I think that probably the majority of tutorial viewers would prefer video than text.

So, it's a trade-off... Do we want to have a) more user-friendly tutorials for a english speaker audience without viewing and listening problems, or b) do we want to have less tutorials, in a less user-friendly way, available for everyone?

Great suggestions. We do creating text tutorials, some of them publishing in 3D World magazine.
And we always looking for other users who want share there knowlege or help us with project.
If you have free time, that you willing dedicate to others, let me know and your help will be greatly appreciated.
I am happy if our tutorials bring happines in some other lives, by making them laugh.

Yes I quite agree with this , i love geekatplay tuts but trying to watch them on my broadband is a painful experience, I also have problems hearing some of the dialogue, so please, more old fashioned tuts!!

Um, no one visit my site etc, then?! :p

Web page tutorials! ;)

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/tutorials/htm/index.htm

I certainly understand your frustrations.  But I am curious, if a person cannot hear the narrative you still have the video image to follow.  Is that not acceptable? 

I fully admit my guilt in not even considering individuals with disabilities and appologize for that.  I doubt that I will include a script in my current or future tutorials as my video program doesn't allow for that, and, like others stated, it is too time consuming for me.  Since every single tutorial I have made is of my own time and expense with no compensation, I simply do not have enough personal time to enhance them further by adding the time consuming text.  I hope you understand and are still able to "limp" along with just the video.  I will however consider how I can improve just the video to make it more obvious what steps I am following so the absense of audio won't be a complete handicap.

Quote - "if a person cannot hear the narrative you still have the video image to follow.  Is that not acceptable?"

If the topic of the video is familiar to the viewer, then the audio may not be extremely important. But if the person is a newbie to the theme, then the audio is normally very important. Do this experience: pick a theme you're not familiar with, search for a video tut about it, watch it with muted audio and judge by yourself.

Quote - "I hope you understand and are still able to "limp" along with just the video."

Don't forget that many people can not watch videos. I think that was what jugoth was talking about. There are several diseases associated with watching videos. See this one, just as an example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy

I am wondering weather a more concise text version of a video tutorial would be a helpful solution. I think asking providers of free video tutorials to add a full text transcript is a bit unfair. Whatever they do to help the community is already more than they have to do. But a shorter version maybe easier to produce. So if someone finds it hard to use the video by itself they can read the text first to get acquainted with the subject, watch some or all of the video (even without sound) for more details, and return to the text for reminders.
I'd offer to transcribe some of volter's or Gary's tutorials to see if it is of any use. I am using Hexagon and Vue although I'm nor really an expert in either. I think I know enough to write a text version of an existing video tut. Caviat is that I'm not always reliable - I have many 'off' days so it may be a bit slow.

Speaking from an entirely selfish point of view, I much prefer written and illustrated tutorials simply because I can print them out and read them at my leisure, rather than using my computer time when I could be busy rendering!

I far prefer text.  The videos are good but I cannot run the video and vue at the same time as my computer EXPLODES.   I like to" be able to do the exercise along with the lesson.  Just watching it, and then trying to remember the steps when I have vue open is hard.  

" But I am curious, if a person cannot hear the narrative you still have the video image to follow.  Is that not acceptable? " 

No.  It's really not.     A lot of times, when watching the video, there us just suddenly a new box on the screen and if I don't hear the voice, I don't always know where the box came from, or why I want it open to begin with.

I'm trying to find time to get back to making more Vue tutorials. Will certainly try hard to add text versions to my videos from now on (some are already static web pages or PDF files).

What do you all think about tutorials built right into Vue? That seems to be possible (I think) and perhaps could be enhanced (or added) in future Vue versions.

And what about PDF files with both video and text/still images inside the same PDF document? Same file could be printed out or viewed with video on the computer. Or regular web pages could be made that way as well.  

_jc  'Art Head Start' e-book: Learn digital art skills $19.95
'Art Head Start.com Free chapter, Vue tutorials, models.

JC,
the basic Flash tutorials that you can get on E-On's site are damnedgoood, IMHO, simple, to the point etc :)

Yes, I agree - that "Procedural Mountains" tutorial has been great for me.

I'm hurt - I posted an "old fashioned" tutorial last week ;-)

Quote - Speaking from an entirely selfish point of view, I much prefer written and illustrated tutorials simply because I can print them out and read them at my leisure, rather than using my computer time when I could be busy rendering!

Those videos are what your old computer is for! On that old low resolution screen you replaced too.

I actually like both video and text/pictures. There are many processes that if I don't see them in a video I would never be able to piece together from a series of pictures and text descriptions.

I am doing the LVS Online beginners course in vue - it's PDF text & images - not video

www.lvsonline.com

It's $25 for 6 weeks but well worth it.

Quote - "What do you all think about tutorials built right into Vue?"

I think that would be a great idea. The best I have seen in this category were the tutorials from SketchUp. These tutorials are not just watching or reading, it's actually doing, which is the best way to learn. You have to do the commands in the application itself under very detailled and very clear written orders from the tutorial script. You can stop whenever you want and even explore different directions from any point you desire. It's really the best.

Tutorials in Zbrush are similar, they're also script based, but the viewer doesn't have as much control.

Hey jugoth,

Sorry to hear about the problems your having with video tutorials.

My site has plain text and image tutorials, you might find useful.

http://www.chromesphere.com/Tutorials.html

Hope it helps!

CS

I also like text tutorials. In videos the person might be speaking English, but sometimes you just can't follow the accent - so you miss bits.

Silverblade, a quick question.  Does your tutorial for precise ecosystem placement require Vue Infinite or will Vue 6 Pro be sufficient?

All  my tutorials are text and pictures. I have a number on different programs on my website of perpetualvisions.com.  http://www.perpetualvisions.com/tocs/toc-articles.htm I don't have many recent ones on Vue 6. My Vue and Easel ones are very basic, but I have them on other programs as well.

I am glad to hear that people want the "old-fashioned" kind. I prefer tutorials that are non-video although Geekatplay ones are terrific. I have not written many recently because I thought people only wanted video ones.

Just thought I'd throw this in the mix. The reason that I avoid video tutorials at all costs, is that here in South Africa, unless you're fabulously wealthy, it's not just a matter of hideously slow bandwidth, but also the fact that most of the time out ADSL has a cap of between 1 to 3gb, which is not a lot if you want to upload pictures, keep software up to date, etc etc etc, So for a lot of us down here, video tuts are just not an option.

Oh, and to ALL of those who take the time to make the tuts, video or otherwise, a MASSIVE thank you for sharing your knowledge with us:)