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Subject: CENSORSHIP gone mad


BeatrixKiddo ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 3:12 AM · edited Wed, 22 January 2025 at 11:52 PM

Is it me or ...does every other image in the Poser Gallery no have a CONTENT advisory sticker over it?

Its nuts and very uglyto look at.
Cant people just create nice thumbnails instead of slapping those horrid stickers over practically every image?

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Paloth ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 3:51 AM

It might just be you. I checked page one of the Poser gallery and didn't see the content advisory stickers. Most images weren't even tagged for nudity or violence. 

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Daidalos ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 4:37 AM

The thumbnail policy, is, well what it is.

Trust me, as I learned long long ago, griping in the public forums is going to do zero about it. When they first came down with the thumbnail policy I was dead set against it. I personally hated it. I even refused to post in my gallery because of it. And well years later, my gallery is still around, I'm still posting, and the thumbnail policy is well still the thumbnail policy. :lol:

If you really want some answers, contact admin@renderosity.com or if you want you can send me an email at daidalos@renderosity.com and I can forward it on to someone for you.

I'm sure someone from the staff will be more than happy to explain to you, why these policies are well, what they are.

Regards,

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Acadia ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 6:23 AM · edited Fri, 26 September 2008 at 6:31 AM

Quote - The staff will be more than happy to explain to you, why these policies are well, what they are.

Regards,

Daidalos

 

Well, I'm not staff, but I know from before they changed the thumbnail policy to not allow nudity in thumbnails, the gallery pages with the thumbnails were looking like ads found in the back of porn magazines. All you saw were tits and ass. Unless you have the nudity filter checked, there is no reason that we should be seeing the number of Renderosity "Content Advisory" thumbnails that we are seeing. The reason that there are so many even when you don't have the nudity filter checked in your options, is because some people either don't know how to make a cropped thumbnail, or just don't want to take the 1 minute that it takes to make one indicative of their actual image, so they throw up the default Renderosity one instead.  Personally I think that's even more ugly than seeing a page of tits and ass. If I wanted to see pages of  "Content Advisory" when I went into the gallery, I'd change my gallery options to "don't show nudity".

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FrankT ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 7:15 AM

My last upload pretty much had to use that thumb.  There was no way I could reasonably crop it and still show anything like what the image was about

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pakled ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 7:46 AM

even when you do have the content advisory set, there are still so many 'unchecked' n#d$ty thumbs that I can't cruise on my lunch hour... que lastima

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hborre ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 10:22 AM

Sometimes you begin to wonder if gratuitous nudity is really necessary for many of the art work exhibited here, or any where for that matter.  Is it really contributing to the story of the image or is it just there because you can simply do it and get away with it?  I think it's forefilling some deep seeded fantasy brought out into the open for everyone to see.  The old masters have a repertoire of nudes, or questionable material, but they also have grand masterpieces without a stitch of revealing flesh.


bopperthijs ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 12:27 PM

*The old masters have a repertoire of nudes, or questionable material, but they also have grand masterpieces without a stitch of revealing flesh.

*Well, some are famous for their nudes, to name some lesser artists: Michelangelo, Rubens, Gauguin.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 2:24 PM

Thanks for registering an account just to start this thread.

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Khai ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 2:31 PM

Quote - Thanks for registering an account just to start this thread.

thanks for registering an account just to point that out

thanks to me for registering an account to point that out to you...

aaaand so on.
looking at the join date - 03 JULY
looking at the post date - 26 SEPTEMBER

it's inconcivable they just did'nt have anything to say until now...


Khai ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 2:32 PM

ps. this is constructive sarcasm.


bantha ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 3:30 PM

For my part, I'm not seeing the Advisory Icon that often - and believe me, I look into the gallery. :bigsmile:

Most of the tagged pictures have a thumbnail, but of course it can be different when you look into certain users galleries - some of them don't crop their images, so you don' get any preview there. 


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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 3:35 PM

Quote - it's inconcivable they just did'nt have anything to say until now...

Well as far as making first impressions goes, starting a thread "CENSORSHIP blah blah" is probably not optimal.

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bantha ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 4:11 PM

 True, the whole issue has nothing to do with censorship. It's alone the user's thing to decide which kind of thumb to use, within the rules. The staff don't gives out Advisory icons.


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Daidalos ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 4:18 PM

It should be pointed out that even if it were censorship so what?

Just as I have every right to "censor" what images are hung on my walls in my home or not.

This is the owners of Renderosity's website, they and anyone they may designate to act on their behalf,  have every right to "censor" what is or is not put up for show on their walls here too.

 

Daidalos


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ockham ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 4:21 PM

It's not censorship, it's just a form of "truth in labeling".

If you're a vegetarian or a strict Jew or Muslim, you want to have food
labeled accurately so you won't accidentally open a can that causes
you to violate your rules or lose your salvation.  Thus food makers are careful
to put Kosher, Halal, and lists of ingredients on cans, in order to give
people something they can buy without fear.

Same with nudity.  Some folks have religious, legal or personal
restrictions on what they can view.  Without the labels, these folks
would have to avoid "shopping" for art entirely.

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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 4:48 PM

technically it's not censorship unless it's a governmental agency that prevents one
from seeing said images. but AFAIK they let ya view the full-size images.  at least
that's what I assume, as I don't actually look at the galleries much.

p.s. I didn't join back in 98 just to post a msg in this thread (and I hadda join again
in 99 after they changed ownership), but that's one of the reasons.  :lol:



Morgano ( ) posted Fri, 26 September 2008 at 9:28 PM

Well as far as making first impressions goes, starting a thread "CENSORSHIP blah blah" is probably not optimal.

Why?   Who dictates what is suitable material for a starting a thread for the first time?   If the subject matter is acceptable, the subject matter is acceptable.    You don't have to comment on it, or even to read it.


pjz99 ( ) posted Sat, 27 September 2008 at 2:37 AM

Quote - Why? Who dictates what is suitable material for a starting a thread for the first time?

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Daidalos ( ) posted Sat, 27 September 2008 at 3:02 AM · edited Sat, 27 September 2008 at 3:02 AM

Quote - Well as far as making first impressions goes, starting a thread "CENSORSHIP blah blah" is probably not optimal.

Why?   Who dictates what is suitable material for a starting a thread for the first time?   If the subject matter is acceptable, the subject matter is acceptable.    You don't have to comment on it, or even to read it.

 

I'm not complaining at all here. But since you mention it,  yes some of us do have to read it. 

Because we have volunteered and taken on the responsibility to do so.  😉


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silverblade33 ( ) posted Sat, 27 September 2008 at 7:12 PM

LOL, further proof, as I've said many times elsewhere, that the best thing that could have happened to America, would have been for the Mayflower and it's Puritan psychos to have been torpedoed ,and thus leaving America to develop without their insane hatred for "sin!" and "fleshy things!" tainting the atmosphere ;)

ye gods!  21st century and folk still get in a flap over boobs and genitals! :tt2:
Ah well.

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MikeJ ( ) posted Sat, 27 September 2008 at 7:20 PM

These arguing threads here are getting more and more lame as time goes by. In the good old days, this would have been a nice little flamefest by now, and be supplying some good entertainment.
You people have lost your edge. ;-)



silverblade33 ( ) posted Sat, 27 September 2008 at 8:35 PM

MikeJ,
folks are geting old, that's what it is!
When P4 was out they were all brash, hip punksters, spoiling for a fight!!
 

Now, we're all on geritol, or dealing with diapers n' stuff!

lol :)

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brynna ( ) posted Sat, 27 September 2008 at 10:05 PM

Quote - Now, we're all on geritol

Speak for yourself. I prefer Centrum Silver. :lol:

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Blackhearted ( ) posted Sat, 27 September 2008 at 10:29 PM

would you rather look at 200x200 pixel close-ups of nipples, asses and crotches?
because thats basically what it was before all the evil censorship :)



Daidalos ( ) posted Sat, 27 September 2008 at 11:24 PM · edited Sat, 27 September 2008 at 11:32 PM

Quote - > Quote - Now, we're all on geritol

Speak for yourself. I prefer Centrum Silver. :lol:

I'm only near 40.

But given that this is the multivitamin proscribed by my nutritionist for me, now that I am post gastric bypass, it's mine too.

But I wish they'd come out with a new flavor. I'm tired of the "citrus berry". :lol:

I've an idea about the custom thumbnail though. I was planning on once I get some time to do so, on talking to the admins about possibly changing it to something a bit more "artsy".

I was thinking of suggesting that maybe we could have a custom thumb that wasn't so generic, something like a thumb that said content advisory on it, but used the Renderosity logo image or something like that.


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nruddock ( ) posted Sun, 28 September 2008 at 5:06 PM

Quote - would you rather look at 200x200 pixel close-ups of nipples, asses and crotches?

Yes, because it would almost certainly be a more honest reflection of the focus of the image :thumbupboth:


BeatrixKiddo ( ) posted Tue, 30 September 2008 at 7:30 AM

Quote - > Quote - it's inconcivable they just did'nt have anything to say until now...

Well as far as making first impressions goes, starting a thread "CENSORSHIP blah blah" is probably not optimal.

For the record i didnt register my account to post this thread.  i have been lurking or ages, reading the site and enjoying the galleries and freebies.

I really dont give a rats ass about making a good impression. I say what I see.
what I see is heavy handed censorship...why shouldn't I express my opinion?

A bare butt is not nudity in my opinion.however i'm not saying i like too much nudity in images because I dont, there are so many other options.  But its a shame that there are so many annoyingly drab and seemingly draconian thumbnails in the poser gallery. IMO


Daidalos ( ) posted Tue, 30 September 2008 at 10:49 AM · edited Tue, 30 September 2008 at 10:54 AM

Beatrixkiddo, 

If you call it as you see it, then you must either be blind, or only see half the picture for some other reason.

Because it is not as you say  "draconian" and it is not as you say  "censorship" for Renderosity to state what it will or will not allow in it's own galleries.

Aside from the fact that everyone at this site agreed upon joining to adhere to, and abide by, the terms as set down  in the Renderosity TOS.

Renderosity as a privately owned website wich has every right to state what it will or will not allow to be displayed in it's galleries.

Furthermore, 99% of the time it's not Renderosity wich puts the custom thumbnail up in the first place. Usually It is the member themselves wich does. Because they either just do so out of convenience, or they in some way violated Renderosity's TOS wich they agreed not to do, as you yourself just agreed to do, upon joining.

If Renderosity were truly half as "draconian" as you make things out to be Beatrixkiddo, Renderosity would be well within it's rights, to just not allow nudity of any kind to be posted in it's galleries period. The very fact that Renderosity will still allow artistic nudity to be in the galleries in and of itself contradicts your assertion that the site is as you put it "heavy handed" and  "draconian".

If you still have questions regarding this issue or any other issue Beatrixkiddo please feel free to direct those questions or concerns directly to the staff either via sitemail, or by emailing admin@renderosity.com.

Regards,

Daidalos


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BeatrixKiddo ( ) posted Tue, 30 September 2008 at 3:07 PM

touched a nerve.

I wont bother talking again, because dissent is frowned upon.


nruddock ( ) posted Tue, 30 September 2008 at 5:24 PM

Quote - ... dissent is frowned upon.

No it's not, you just have to know how to do properly :tt2:


Daidalos ( ) posted Tue, 30 September 2008 at 6:17 PM

Really Beatrixkiddo,  I hardly think that voicing my opinion, and the facts as I understand them, along with an offer to assist a member as best I can, should they need any questions or concerns adressed. Is hardly what I would call "frowning on dissent".


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Kendra ( ) posted Fri, 03 October 2008 at 1:56 PM

Quote - touched a nerve.

No you didn't.  It's just old news.

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silverblade33 ( ) posted Fri, 03 October 2008 at 2:21 PM · edited Fri, 03 October 2008 at 2:23 PM

Beatrix,
difference between pathetic, Puritanical prudishness, (wihch means the place where Rendo' is based legally/culturally forces the company to abide by thier social and legal customs)....and "crushing dissent".

Rendo is NOT the Taleban, Puritans were though, lol. Blame them and their ilk. Mods have the unenviable task of trying to prevent mayhem and rule breaking. Not the same thing as them being "Ye Olde Gestapo".

See what I mean? :)

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Kendra, hey!! Sure we mix! Especially on windy days when wearing a kilt!!
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moonwatcher ( ) posted Sat, 04 October 2008 at 12:32 AM

I seem to have dropped into this conversation late but anyhow; Maybe I did not read the TOS closely enough but I thought you had to use their thumb when posting anything that was nudity and/or violence.  Can somebody point me to where in the TOS it explains thumbs.
:-)


FrankT ( ) posted Sat, 04 October 2008 at 11:42 AM

You don't have to use the rendo thumbnail provided yours complies with the TOS.  When you go to upload, there's a link to it if you want to have a read

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MikeJ ( ) posted Sat, 04 October 2008 at 12:17 PM

Quote -
 The very fact that Renderosity will still allow artistic nudity to be in the galleries in and of itself contradicts your assertion that the site is as you put it "heavy handed" and  "draconian".

"artistic nudity"? Still calling it that? What happened to "gratuitous nudity"?
Or have the words "artistic" and "gratuitous" somehow become synonyms when I wasn't paying attention? ;-)



Klebnor ( ) posted Sat, 04 October 2008 at 12:45 PM

Oh, my.  And here I've been assuming all this time that the Content Advisory thumbs were a navigation aid to help one get straight to the good stuff.

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bantha ( ) posted Sat, 04 October 2008 at 2:51 PM

Nope, the people who make the real good stuff usually provide a fitting good thumbnail too - but of course there are exceptions.


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