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Subject: Poser 7 and M4


ProudApache ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 9:01 PM · edited Thu, 28 November 2024 at 10:34 PM

Well after loading M4 in Poser 7, so far it has locked it up after conforming the GENS to him.  Poser 7 has actually disappeared after loading M4 and when I finally load him and then render, Poser 7 freezes.  I'm not having a good M4 day.  Does anyone else have similar problems?  I have loaded other models and Poser 7 works just fine but it doesn't like M4 too much.  


pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 9:11 PM

Not so far, everything appears to be OK to me, I didn't have any problems conforming the genital.  Did you allow the updater to run after installing?  That is pretty mandatory.

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ProudApache ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 9:15 PM

pjz
You mean the updater for M4?  Yes I did click on the updater which was on the desktop but needless to say that didn't do anything.


pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 9:17 PM · edited Tue, 21 October 2008 at 9:17 PM

There is a separate updater for the genital, at least in my case there was, separate batch file and shortcut on desktop and all.  If you didn't get that, uninstall and reinstall the gen (or just reinstall if you didn't allow the uninstall option) and see if you get it.

ps: your can brag to your friends that you have Michael's Genitalia sitting on your desktop.

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ProudApache ( ) posted Tue, 21 October 2008 at 10:23 PM

pjz
OK I will try and see if that works.  I'm going to bed now so I'll try this tomorrow and you're right about M4 Gens, I will start bragging tomorrow :tt2:


ProudApache ( ) posted Thu, 23 October 2008 at 5:11 PM · edited Thu, 23 October 2008 at 5:11 PM

In addition to the above problems, when loading M4 into a scene, I start to render and then it says it can't.  Due to a firefly problem but I'm using the Poser 4 render engine.  After I click OK, it then says I'm missing a texture for the scene and it can't find it.  The only time it does this is when M4 is in the scene.  I don't get it.  M4 is a disaster.


pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 23 October 2008 at 5:28 PM

How do you have Poser installed?  Have you ever done anything like manually moving or renaming a directory?  Have you considered reinstalling Poser and the service release?  Did rerun the separate installer for the gens?

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seattletim ( ) posted Thu, 23 October 2008 at 5:40 PM

I have had a problem I can not figure out with the Beck texture. His head does not accept textures and the brow appears and renders as all brown . . . he looks like a raccoon. His eyes do not accept textres either. So, not sure if it is a bug on my computer or with the components of all of these things. That is the only problem I have had.  


pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 23 October 2008 at 5:54 PM

As far as the brow goes, you're not the only one with this problem with the Beck texture:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2753356

two workarounds in that thread.  complain to DAZ, maybe they'll get it fixed more permanently.

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ProudApache ( ) posted Thu, 23 October 2008 at 6:24 PM

pjz
I haven't reinstalled Poser 7 and I have the SR3 installed.  Everything else works but when I load M4 in the scene, it can't find textures and whats funny is it can't find the textures to the other model not M4.  Once I take M4 out of the scene, it works fine.  Poser is installed normally on the C drive and I even installed M4 on the C drive as well.  Everything else I load are in runtimes on external hard drives.  I also reinstalled the Gens again.  I may have to formatt and do it all over again.   


pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 23 October 2008 at 6:32 PM

There is a problem that happens to me sometimes where a filename/directory is too long for Poser to handle, and it shows this kind of behavior.  Does this happen when you have a completely empty scene and you load M4?  If not, what other objects are in the scene?

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ProudApache ( ) posted Thu, 23 October 2008 at 7:26 PM

pjz
I checked it out and it seems to only do it when M4 is in the scene.  I put M3 and V4 in a scene and it's fine, but when I put M4 and V4 in the same scene, I get that file error.  No matter what I do, it points to M4.  I've never had this problem before so I don't know how to fix it.


ProudApache ( ) posted Thu, 23 October 2008 at 7:31 PM

pjz
I forgot to add that when I just load M4 in the scene by himself, it works fine.  But when I load another model, that's when I get that file error.


pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 23 October 2008 at 8:07 PM

What is the exact message you are given, can you post a screenshot of the dialog box?  What texture file is it looking for exactly, what is the full path (including all the C: crap and filename)?

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ProudApache ( ) posted Fri, 24 October 2008 at 9:44 PM · edited Fri, 24 October 2008 at 9:46 PM

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pjz OK in my examples I loaded M4 with Horde with nothing else in the scene but them two.  When I start to render is shows that is loading the textures.  After a minute or 2, I get this error.


ProudApache ( ) posted Fri, 24 October 2008 at 9:47 PM

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Then after I click OK, I get this error.


ProudApache ( ) posted Fri, 24 October 2008 at 9:48 PM · edited Fri, 24 October 2008 at 9:49 PM

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After getting that error, I get this error which shows that the texture for Horde is missing which it isn't.  This is where I get confused and I've never seen this before.  Then I take M4 out of the scene, and  Horde renders fine.  Thanks for your help pjz.


ProudApache ( ) posted Fri, 24 October 2008 at 9:49 PM · edited Fri, 24 October 2008 at 9:52 PM

pjz
I'd like to add that I just formatted and put everything back into my computer so it's a fresh install.  It took me all day.  As far as the texture file path, I have all my runtimes on external HD's.  The only model I have on the C drive is M4 which it wants you to do when installing.


ProudApache ( ) posted Sat, 25 October 2008 at 1:39 PM · edited Sat, 25 October 2008 at 1:40 PM

pjz
I was thinking that if I took and installed M4 on the external HD's that this may cure it and I've tried almost everything to fix this problem.


pjz99 ( ) posted Sat, 25 October 2008 at 1:42 PM

What happens when you render only one figure, in each case?
what is the full path of the textures you're using, including the c: parts?

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ProudApache ( ) posted Sat, 25 October 2008 at 2:28 PM · edited Sat, 25 October 2008 at 2:28 PM

pjz
I think I figured it out.  You know how M4 and V4 has to be installed on the C drive where your Poser EXE file is?  Well the textures for M4 wants to be installed on the C drive as well.  Before, I was loading the textures that were installed on my external HD's while the M4 base model and morphs were loaded from the C drive.  There is always something new to this hobby and with Poser 7.  Right now I'm going to render Horde with M4 and see if that doesn't work since Horde is being loaded from the external HD.


ProudApache ( ) posted Sat, 25 October 2008 at 2:32 PM

pjz
Well I just tried loading Horde from the external HD and I get that same error.  For some reason, M4 doesn't like models in the scene that uses external Runtimes.  Just my observation but I don't know for sure what's going on.


ProudApache ( ) posted Sat, 25 October 2008 at 2:44 PM

pjz
Now I just loaded Horde after putting the files into the Runtime folder on the C drive and I'm getting the same error, so I don't know what's going on with this.  I've exhausted every possibility that I can think of.


pjz99 ( ) posted Sat, 25 October 2008 at 6:19 PM

what is the full path of the textures you're using, including the c: parts?

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ProudApache ( ) posted Sat, 25 October 2008 at 7:09 PM

pjz
I have 2 runtime folders that I have on external HD's.  The normal path for my C drive runtime is
C:Program Filese frontierPoser 7
The external HD runtime folder path is
I:Poser 7 Runtime
Inside that folder is the main runtime folder with all the content inside.
 


pjz99 ( ) posted Sat, 25 October 2008 at 8:01 PM

It may be that it is choking on the long string in the directory name "Poser 7 Runtime".  If you have had your machine set up like that for a ling time and it's behaved well before now, maybe not that.

I have also had it happen that if I moved a directory by hand, and then try to load a MAT pose or other library content file (e.g. a character saved in the Figures library), the file saved to the library may be pointing to a texture file that is not where the library file thinks it is (because I moved it).  It would probably be a good idea to check through any files on your I: external runtime and see if any are looking for texture files either with an absolute path (like with a drive letter C:) or in a directory that has been moved.

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vholf ( ) posted Sun, 26 October 2008 at 11:29 AM

I had a similar problem a while back when trying to render a scene with big high quality textures, and when I checked the C: drive where I have poser installed (while trying to render) I noticed it only had 1mb free left!! then I got that same message about firefly renderer.

This is because poser copies all the textures to a temporary folder usually on the same drive your OS is installed, so make sure you have at least 10gb free when working with heavy models and textures.

I solved the problem going to the poser prefferences and changing the TEMP forlder to my 2nd HD where I have plenty of free space.


ProudApache ( ) posted Sun, 26 October 2008 at 12:50 PM

pjz
I will definitely check that because it seems to be a path problem.  I can't think of anything it could be.  Also Hioushi gave me another idea that the hi rez texture maps may need more room for the temp directory but I have a 500 Gig internal C drive and my externals are 1 TB.  So I'm hoping it's not a room problem.


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