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Subject: MillDog Installation haerd Drive space needed


shante ( ) posted Tue, 25 November 2008 at 1:16 PM · edited Thu, 09 January 2025 at 2:03 PM

Hi All. I am trying to install my FULL Mill Dog Bundle into my Runtime Folder. I got everything and want to install it all but, having limited hard drive space available and unable to afford now an additional drive, I need to know how much realestate the full installation requires so I can plan or adjust files as needed. I don't want to take out more items than necessary to do this install. So if anyone here is running a Mac (or I guess even a Windows installation would work) can you let me know how much is required for the full installation.
I thank you any in advance for the help.


Acadia ( ) posted Tue, 25 November 2008 at 1:27 PM · edited Tue, 25 November 2008 at 1:29 PM

Have you tried compressing your poser files from inside Poser in order to save on hard drive space?  using the python file compression in poser can free up gigs and gigs of hard drive space.

You can learn about file compressing in this thread. Scroll down for several picture images with the instructions:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3169372&ebot_calc_page#message_3169372

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shante ( ) posted Tue, 25 November 2008 at 4:13 PM

That is great but in what versions are we talking about being able to use Python scripts and file compression on? On the box I am trying to run for this project I am still running Poser version 4x  on. I have Poser 6 on another computer but I am trying to re render some images I used the Poser Dog on and need to replace it with MilDog and don't want to transfer my whole P4 Runtime Folder over the network to my new computer.   :(


Acadia ( ) posted Tue, 25 November 2008 at 4:19 PM

Hmmm. I have never used Poser 4 so I don't know if there is file compression available or not.

And I do have the dog bundle, but I don't know how much hard drive space it takes up.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



lmckenzie ( ) posted Tue, 25 November 2008 at 11:04 PM

Windows and I'm not sure if I kept it all or if I'm missing something:

cr2           14.8MB
obj             3.37MB
poses       3.5 MB
Textures 36.5MB 

so roughly 60MB.

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shante ( ) posted Wed, 26 November 2008 at 12:56 AM

Does that include all the breeds as well or is that the poses you mentioned?


LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Wed, 26 November 2008 at 1:04 AM

Quote - That is great but in what versions are we talking about being able to use Python scripts and file compression on? On the box I am trying to run for this project I am still running Poser version 4x  on. I have Poser 6 on another computer but I am trying to re render some images I used the Poser Dog on and need to replace it with MilDog and don't want to transfer my whole P4 Runtime Folder over the network to my new computer.   :(

Don't transfer the whole runtime! If you're on a home network, just share the drive your Poser 4 runtime is on and map it to your Poser 6 machine as a new drive. Then in Poser 6 just add the old runtime and load up what you need.


shante ( ) posted Wed, 26 November 2008 at 1:23 AM · edited Wed, 26 November 2008 at 1:24 AM

Huh!?
Sorry I am sure what you say is good but your trying to guide someone a bit slow to grasp this info. I thought it was not a good thing (Too slow) to render over an Ethernet network? In fact when I render in poser 4 on my older system it warns me that if I am hooked up to a network and it is active render functions on that System will be slower.  :(


LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Wed, 26 November 2008 at 2:05 AM

Nevermind. I thought you were trying to render something in your Poser 4 runtime in Poser 6, not the other way around. I need to go to bed. Poser 4 doesn't link to external runtimes like Poser 6 does. My bad.


wolf359 ( ) posted Wed, 26 November 2008 at 10:03 AM

Quote - Does that include all the breeds as well or is that the poses you mentioned?

The breeds are not really separate files that take up much space
they are just morph data to change the figures appearance.

that 60 megs sounds about right
 you should be fine



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shante ( ) posted Wed, 26 November 2008 at 2:05 PM

Hey Wolf!
What are you doing back here? thought you were steering away from the Poser Scene?!
Thanks for the reply dude and have a good holiday!


wolf359 ( ) posted Thu, 27 November 2008 at 5:21 AM · edited Thu, 27 November 2008 at 5:24 AM

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whats up Old dog??

Im more heavily into CG effects work
with less emphasis on character stuff
I just upgraded to the latest version of Cinema4D+ interposer plugin
with the Vray high end renderer plus I am using/learning
the REALFLOW film effects liquid simulation system.
but hey in these times  one should keep
as many irons in the fire as possible
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Later



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lmckenzie ( ) posted Thu, 27 November 2008 at 8:22 AM

To confirm, yes, the pz2 files are the breeds. Also if you're running XP/2K you can always compress your runtime folder and probably free up quite a bit of space.  

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shante ( ) posted Thu, 27 November 2008 at 11:06 AM

Wolf:  Good to see you are growing. Hang in there. The ads for your products look good too. Nicve job.

lmckenzie:  I am on a Mac so the compression you speak of I don't think will work or is available. Besides I don't think that option is available for Poser 4 irregardless of the OS.


lmckenzie ( ) posted Fri, 28 November 2008 at 9:49 AM

Oops, forgot you're on a Mac. Compression is built into the NTFS file system on Windows and is transparent to the application so even Poser 4 can use files in a compressed folder. They are compressed/decompressed on the fly. I'd have thought that the Mac would have something similar but a quick Google search doesn't seem to bear that out.  

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


shante ( ) posted Fri, 28 November 2008 at 12:58 PM

Even if it did I am running Poser 4 on an older non OS -X System. If it does anything like you describe it would be in a newer version of OS-X. I am only running 10.2.8 right now and will be upgrading to 10.4 in the next week or so so not sure what that version does.


wolf359 ( ) posted Fri, 28 November 2008 at 3:28 PM

With the widespread availability of cheap storage internal&external apparently apple sees no real need for "on the fly" file compression schemes.
 
shante  see
HERE for info on making the jump from 10.2 to 10 .4
choosing the option of archive& install is the way to go that will protect your existing data (book marks etc..

Later



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shante ( ) posted Fri, 28 November 2008 at 10:06 PM

Thanks Wolf. Will be doing it Monday. Been getting rid of all the stuff on my external FireWire drive and going to do a Carbon Copy Clone on the system as is once all cleaned up. THEN I will do the OS update.......JUST IN CASE! Wirth my luck with technology lately I want to have some insurance before doing this. The learning curve for P6 seems steep. I know I am going to get frustrated. That is why I want to keep the stuff on my old box so I can cool off in good ole P$ when I get pissed!  LOL
Been talking to the folks at Apple about CD technology and they pretty much killed me when they told me it is NOT Secure. Said after a few years ALL Cd's and DVD's burned on home computers eventually fade their data and fail. something about the dyes fading or something. I am really bummed. Hard Drives are doomed to fail. CD and DVD technology is doomed to fail. Where the frell are we supposed to archive our stuff!?  :(


lmckenzie ( ) posted Sat, 29 November 2008 at 4:02 AM

From what I can find, they keys are use R not RW media, prefer DVD over CD and keep them in a cool, low humidity, pollution free environment for best results. At that I see estimates of 20-100 years. Those are all estimates based on accelerated ageing though. The media haven't existed long enough for real world results. The trick is finding the best quality media. There are different dye formulations used by various mfgs. and the name on the box doesn't necessarily reflect which company actually made the things. I'd look on some of the enthusiast sites and see what people are saying in that regard. Apparently lasers get misaligned and lose power as well so as always you probably get what you pay for in terms of burners too. With good media, and good storage the problem may be finding a working reader when the grandkid's PlayStation 12 nano-holo cube drive won't do.

Regarding compression, MS has supported it in some form since the days of DOS and sub gigabyte drives so it's there, it's free and Vicki get's downright surly when I suggest a new HDD vs. yet another bikini or that new pair of f*uck me pumps that she simply has to have. And don't get me started on the swords and constant temple renovations.
 

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


shante ( ) posted Sun, 30 November 2008 at 12:37 PM

Yeah I have had both Type R and Type RW fail and have lost very valuable digital files I can not sell now. I did a whole series of complex vector pieces years ago which I printed and exhibited, (even sold a few prints) which I decided was time to try and market. Now that I have decided to do so I can't extract the files from the cd I archived them on....BTW the disk is by TDK and it is a type R disk with an opaque white backing for printing and I don't write on any of my valuable Cd's to keep this sort of thing from happening. It kills me to know there are folks that treat their media like frisbees or coasters and seem to never lose their stuff but I treat it like valuable and precious stuff and I seem to get screwed.

With this series I have one of two options. Try and scan the laser prints I did of them into system and try to get them up to quality or re-vectorize them and try a redo or just to start drawing them over using the prints a reference. Either solution gives me the case of the grips thinking of all the work. It took me almost 8 years (off and on)  of getting these images to where they are (were) and I certainly don't want to wait another 8 years to get them ready for prime time money makers.
So I am thinking to just walk away!   :(


lmckenzie ( ) posted Wed, 03 December 2008 at 2:06 PM

Bummer! One thing you might consider is an online backup service. ibackup.com is just one I googled - $9.99/mo. for 10GB - not free but maybe worth it. You can find freebies as well but you get what you pay for. 

Other than that, I trust metal over plastic. I've found plenty of junked PCs with working hard drives and pulled data older than 8 years off them. I'd get a USB HD and use it only for backups and use online as a 2nd layer of defense. Unfortunately, I think we're nearing one of those science fiction scenarios where the failure of these machines is going to destroy more than our 3D assets :-(.

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