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Subject: poser 7 in ubuntu 8


menschtx ( ) posted Mon, 08 December 2008 at 10:16 AM · edited Fri, 15 November 2024 at 9:40 AM

Any one have any suggestions for getting poser 7 to work in ubuntu?


richardson ( ) posted Mon, 08 December 2008 at 10:36 AM

It was working up tp P6 last time I checked..you may have to wait for 7


menschtx ( ) posted Mon, 08 December 2008 at 11:05 AM

I have 7 and am having issues with the render screen and the initial poser screen.


pakled ( ) posted Mon, 08 December 2008 at 11:52 AM

there's some Windows emulation software out there for Linux, but I suppose that would defeat the whole purpose...;)

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12rounds ( ) posted Mon, 08 December 2008 at 12:07 PM · edited Mon, 08 December 2008 at 12:15 PM

I'm running P7 in Ubuntu 8.10. with Wine. It ran just fine under 8.04 as well. I've been using P7 in Ubuntu for quite some time now - almost daily.
There are issues with ATI cards, I believe, but that's why I trust in nVidia. 
 I have P7 running in VirtualBox too in a stripped down XP I tailored (chucking out everything not essential, created an ISO image and used that as an installation media).  

P7 works with minor quirks in Ubuntu. It crashes very rarely and renders faster than in Windows (I used to have Windows XP on the exact same machine earlier).  

In fact I'm rendering a scene RIGHT NOW in another virtual desktop. I used to have difficulties with OpenGL losing it's marbles while switching virtual desktops and Poser would go black, but those issues seem gone now ... besides I'm Gnome with full Compiz effects and eye candy so it's not a big surprise issues might surface when switching between Wine and Ubuntu native software. I also use LXDE as a window manager when I want to work more quickly and more reliably. Not that often though since Poser seems to behave quite nicely.


dona_ferentes ( ) posted Mon, 08 December 2008 at 3:34 PM

Quote - P7 works with minor quirks in Ubuntu.... In fact I'm rendering a scene RIGHT NOW in another virtual desktop

I'd be very interested in knowing the extent of the 'quirks'.  I've been hoping for Poser to run in Ubuntu (or any other Linux) for years now.  I kept hearing that someone here or there had succeeded, but always found that it was the same as Samuel Johnston said about the dog that could walk on its hind legs - that everybody got excited, not because it did it well, but because it could do it at all.

In other words, it was a 'technical' exercise, and never produced any setup that could seriously be used for actual production.

If you've got it working well, you could do a massive MASSIVE service for all us other Linux guys if you could post a tutorial somewhere.

Poser is now the only piece of software that makes me keep Windows on one of my computers.  If there was a way to cut that link entirely, I'd be VERY happy!


12rounds ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2008 at 12:50 AM · edited Tue, 09 December 2008 at 12:55 AM

Well I'm not the only one using P7 succesfully in Linux - far from it. There are many other users in this forum as well.

As to what I have encountered:
-Installing P7 in Ubuntu succeeded merely by clicking the setup.exe (or wharevet it was called) just like in Windows
-Installing the service packs did not succeed ... I did it by installing the service packs via a virtual Windows (and then just replaced everything to the service packed version in Ubuntu)
-DAZ Installers are a bitch ... I sometimes need to install content via virtual Windows if the installer won't work in Wine for some reason. The older installers work just fine, but the new ones ... not so much.
-Poser just runs. I tweaked Wine into giving a full screen window instead of the windowed option, but other than that I did not need any tweaking to get P7 to run.

The quirks of use:
-Heap space becoming full is an issue and one that is probably not going to go away either (low priority in the Wine development queue). This manifests itself with menus disappearing or not responding when heap space comes full. This only happens with a HUGE number of directories (Poser creates a 80-byte menu signature for every directory available via the library palette; if this directory number exceeds around 4000 or so, heap space becomes an issue). Not likely unless you have it like I have: meticulously sorted directory structure to every content item. I mean I have one huge Runtime with everything in it and so the directory structure is ... complex. Ie. to get to a V3, I have this in my library - Character-->HUMANS-->DAZ-->V3 and under that directory the actual V3 Cr2 resides.
-OBJ import sometimes fails (I don't know why)
-Selected body part has an annoying red border (this doesn't happen with all models though and it's more of an annoyance than a real hindrance)
-Floating palettes disappear behind the main program window (this is avoided by just resizing the main window to a small enough window so as to make the floating palettes stand on their own - for example when I work with Poser, I resize main window to about 500x500 pixels in the lower left corner just big enough to house all the controls and menus and all the important floating palettes are now usable and stable (library palette, render screen etc). No problems, but it requires the user to adopt this one extra step of resizing upon startup into his/her workflow.
-Hierarchy window seems to act real slow for me (no idea why)

Pros:
-Access to Linux filesystem. Linux filesystems kicks Windows filesystems in the nuts painfully (I mean this is hardly under a debate ... it's a fact). This in turn means superior load-up times (when Poser browses through everything) and file reading speed with big files.
-Access to Linux command line tools. (Anyone who knows how to "grep", "awk" and "sed" through their Runtime, find that many painful jobs in Windows are just a few commands away in Linux). You need to find orphaned OBJ files? No probs, just a few commands. You need to change all texture references for a 100 files? No problem, just a few commands. Etc etc.
-Rendering speeds seems far better than in Windows
-Access to Linux tools for backups etc. I mean who needs to manually back up their content anyway? Put a "rsync" script or "mirrordir" or something in cron and let the system take care of menial tasks in background.
-Python is fast.

Personally ... no way back to Windows for me. Poser works good enough, reliable enough and fast enough for my needs (which are the daily needs of serious hobbyist). I have an external Runtime in Linux ext2 filesystem and a main Runtime in Linux ext2 filesystem as well. Apart from that I have a virtual Windows installation that has mounted access to the external Runtime in Ubuntu (I needed this to get the service packs working and to install V4 and M4 - otherwise it's just there sleeping).


adp001 ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2008 at 7:52 AM

Agreed what 12rounds said - but it seems that how Poser is best installed and works best is very hardware dependent.

For me its best to use "floating windows", after replacing some wine-dlls/libs with original ones from windows (can't remember which ones I have replaced; I did it via trial and error).

To move Poser windows and dialogs I use "Alt-Mousebutton" (so windowframes actually moved by the underlaying X-window system). This works pretty well.

Running Poser with Linux isn't for Linux newbies, IMHO.




dona_ferentes ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2008 at 8:17 AM

Thanks, 12rounds,  I'm gonna keep that message and give it a shot once I finish a couple of my current projects.

A functional Poser running in Linux would really be a dream come true - though it's a bit of a bummer that Windows (virtual or otherwise) is still needed for those Daz installers (which I've always hated, even using windows).

Thankfully these days it's possible to survive quite happily without Daz!

And just a quickie PS to other Linux users here:  Have you written politely to Smith Micro to ask about the future availability of a native Linux version of Poser?  True, you know the answer in advance, but if enough of us ask, eventually we'll be less 'invisible' to these companies.


Gazukull ( ) posted Sat, 13 December 2008 at 11:07 AM · edited Sat, 13 December 2008 at 11:11 AM

I have poor performance with multithreaded renders in Ubuntu 8.10 / P7 SR3.  Otherwise it worked well. - G


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