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Subject: Need advice for using Poser Pro with Vue 7


3DNeo ( ) posted Sun, 01 February 2009 at 4:31 PM · edited Sun, 09 February 2025 at 1:14 AM

I have been using Poser for some time now and last year upgraded to the most recent version of "Poser Pro". Since that time, there has been a service pack released for Poser Pro.

I have read about the issues with Poser Pro and Vue 7 for importing. According to the techs here, they are not sure when or if Vue 7 will properly work with importing Poser Pro content. So, I am needing feedback on what to do for solving this problem. I know some out there use Poser Pro and must have Vue 7 as well. I don't have any older versions and Vue 7 will be the first version I buy as well.

What I am doing is graphic novels and some scenes have fairly detailed renders in Poser. I have read about some hair and clothing issues when importing to Vue 7 and that is not acceptable for my work as everything in Poser must work properly. The other problem is I read the forum on e-on about the "SkinVue 7" having some rather big issues and users are not happy with it saying there are bugs for the skin that make it too red no matter what you try and also the previous version of "SkinVue 6" was better. That rules out making the Poser/Daz figures more realistic in Vue 7 and I will stick with the "Skin Realism for V4" inside Poser for that it would seem.

So, what I was thinking since I want no compromise is to do my figure renders in Poser Pro and set the scene for the characters there as I want them to look with a transparent ".PNG" background. Then, do a separate background render for the interior/exterior backdrop of the story fully inside Vue 7. Finally, merge the two images and do postwork in Photoshop. What do you think of that solution? Does that sound best for the work I am doing?

Thanks for the feedback.

Jeff

Development on: Mac Pro 2008, Duel-Boot OS - Snow Leopard 10.6.6 & Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon , 10GB 800 MHz DDR2 RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT.


Mari-Anne ( ) posted Sun, 01 February 2009 at 5:00 PM

In a setup like you suggest, I'd be interested in knowing how you plan to deal with the proper shadows issue?


thefixer ( ) posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 2:26 AM

There is currently a bug in Vue 7 also that will turn "some" of your textures green on V4 and M4. It doesn't seem to affect M3 and V3 though!
And it is dependant on using Poser's shader tree when importing which I do!
Can't say for Poser Pro, but Vue7 works fine with Poser 6 and 7 except for the "green" issue!!

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.


TH ( ) posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 7:23 AM

If I remember correctly, part of the problem with Poser Pro and Vue7 was that Poser Pro saved the paths to textures etc in a different format as earlier versions, and this problem was being  adressed by e-on. I don't know if it has been fixed yet, as I don't use Poser Pro.

<<I have been using Poser for some time now and last year upgraded to the most recent version of "Poser Pro". >>
I take it that this means that you have a previous version of Poser? If so, what version? 5, 6 and 7 can use Poser shaders, and work with Vue7.
The major problem is the green tint that appears when using Poser shaders that have a non-white diffuse colour. Some shaders use white, others tend to use a very pale blue.
For the ones that use a pale blue (Poser) diffuse colour you can get relatively good results by changing this to white (as a workaround until the problem is solved), but so much depends on your lighting and atmosphere anyway. The shaders that already have white as diffuse colour seem to work ok.

2 - I seem to remember that Dave Burdick had a fix to use his SkinVue6 in Vue7. Sorry, don't know where, and haven't tried it out. Similarly, I still haven't tried SkinVue7 so can't comment on it, but I can't find the threads that you were referring to at e-on.  ???

  1. figure renders in PoserPro and background in Vue??????   - don't do it. Your lighting and shadows won't match without a LOT of postwork. 

Rob


3DNeo ( ) posted Mon, 02 February 2009 at 8:17 AM

Quote - If I remember correctly, part of the problem with Poser Pro and Vue7 was that Poser Pro saved the paths to textures etc in a different format as earlier versions, and this problem was being  adressed by e-on. I don't know if it has been fixed yet, as I don't use Poser Pro.

<<I have been using Poser for some time now and last year upgraded to the most recent version of "Poser Pro". >>
I take it that this means that you have a previous version of Poser? If so, what version? 5, 6 and 7 can use Poser shaders, and work with Vue7.
The major problem is the green tint that appears when using Poser shaders that have a non-white diffuse colour. Some shaders use white, others tend to use a very pale blue.
For the ones that use a pale blue (Poser) diffuse colour you can get relatively good results by changing this to white (as a workaround until the problem is solved), but so much depends on your lighting and atmosphere anyway. The shaders that already have white as diffuse colour seem to work ok.

2 - I seem to remember that Dave Burdick had a fix to use his SkinVue6 in Vue7. Sorry, don't know where, and haven't tried it out. Similarly, I still haven't tried SkinVue7 so can't comment on it, but I can't find the threads that you were referring to at e-on.  ???

  1. figure renders in PoserPro and background in Vue??????   - don't do it. Your lighting and shadows won't match without a LOT of postwork. 

Rob

Hi,

I just spoke with a tech at e-on and he said the Vue 7 Poser Pro issues have not been fixed or addressed yet, even with the most current service patches for Vue 7. He also said he did not know when they would or could be fixed in Vue. :(

There seems to be a difference of opinion out there, even from experienced users of Vue and Poser about the best method for doing this. Some say that it takes a LOT of work getting things looking right in Vue when importing Poser figures as they can be too dark, bad lighting, etc. and not easy to fix.

See - www.cornucopia3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php

As to solving the shadow issue there are two choices:

  1. Since it's more of a graphic novel and less perfection to detail, simply ignore shadows for the most part on detail. You could cast shadows for figures inside Poser for a GENERAL direction/intensity going with the mood/setting in the background render made with Vue.

  2. Do like the someone said and import the rendered Vue background inside poser and set the figures and lights there as needed.

I don't know how well those options would work as I don't own Vue 7 yet, only played with it for awhile. This is certainly an interesting and somewhat of a very complex situation given what I have read with all the known bugs and the issues of importing Poser figures in general inside Vue 7. Right now, I am even more confused as to how to get the best look for working with these two 3D programs. There seems to be no easy solution until Vue 7 gets fixed and even then they seem to need to fix some lighting and other importing issues for Poser figures.

Thanks for the replies and input on solving and working on this issue.

Jeff

Development on: Mac Pro 2008, Duel-Boot OS - Snow Leopard 10.6.6 & Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon , 10GB 800 MHz DDR2 RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT.


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