HI  -  a little important research here -I was hopin' many people could chime in:
IF you have  Sydney  G2  in your figures library  and you got her as included with Poser 7,
can you tell me if the default params ( the .cr2 in the unaltered  form that it came from smith micro) when  she loads up  are as follows:  for the eye lacrimas  (head) morph  is the dial set to  "1"  and the "no nipples" chest morph is the dial set to "1"

I know how to change it in the .cr2  file  ,  but my point is I want to know  if the general Poser  public  received  Sydney  with these defaults  set to  "1"

Thank you
P.S> , and actually  for those of you who like and really know the Poser figures  well,  do you happen top know  if  Jessica  amd  Miki 2.0   come  from  S.M. with those same  morphs default  at  "1" 

The no nipple is set to 1.000 so it does not have to be adjusted for Conforming Tops (avoid poke-through)

Miki 2.0 is the same... off hand I am not sure about Jessi, but I suspect it is the same. Part of the difference is older figures use to have Nipple Morphs, so it would be zero and applying it would reveal the nipple mesh. These figures the Nipple is revealed in the default figure and the No Nipple morph hides the nipple.

Not sure about the other morph...I do not see it on the Sydney I opened. All the Morphs are set to Zero on the default Sydney's Head.

Ratscloset, thanks for the info on the nipple - yeah that makes  sense why  -  and so now I know  that for all people who just leave Syd at default, she is flaccid  :-(  ..... OK that helps  so If I was to share Syd morphs,  I may have to take that into account or do the morphs as injection with that changed  if it turns out to be a factor........

the other morph  is  HEAD-> MORPHS-> EYES->  and at the top of this  eyes morphs list is LACRIMAS- ( the lacrimas  are located at the inner corners of the eyes)

THIS ONE  is a real   mystery -  do you see your default at 1.0000  ?

I found that... it is in the Poser 7 version, not the Poser Pro Version. I am trying to find out what it does or why it is there.. most likely something that did not get removed after working on the Head.  Changing does not seem to have any impact, so it may just be an empty dial that did not get cleared.

 As far as I know there's no nipple morph for Sydney... Which is why I made one. It's in my Free Stuff here for those who wants it :)
(and in the Five Free Faces for Sydney there's also a morph to make the huge ledge that is her lower eyelid a little prettier ;) )

Hey Rats - the Lacrimas  is actually a problem -  well, because I DID NOT turn it to zero before creating my face morph  ( oops!!)

and you are right  - you cannot  see any effect from it  whether it is at  1  or  0 ,   so  i  did not think to turn it to zero before creating the morph

so now the problem is, If i was to share this Syd face morph with someone,   they  would apply it,   and contained in my morph is the value  "1" for lacrimas,  and the person trying my morph is factory  default  on Sydney  at  "1" for Lacrimas  as well....so you get   "double Lacrimas",  or Lacrimas  value of  "2"  when you apply the morph and it looks real   bad.   like two big bumps  the size of fingerprints located in the spots where eyeglass pads would rest on the sides of the nose.

if I was on my poser machine I would show you a shot of it.

so i cannot share this morph  WITHOUT a warning that people need  to turn  Lacrimas  to "0" ...and that is kinda cheesy to have to tell people if you are offering them something.

and because I morhped the nipples as well,  from a Sydney  whose nipples  were NOT  turned off, I have to warn people to turn the nipplies  off  to  "0".  Cheeseness.

Trekkie I havebeen to your site before you have some cool stuff I am intrigued about the eyelids thing - gonna check it out to-nite. I hate btheway the eyelid skin seems  "thick", like there is a "shelf" like you said.
speaking of G2  eyelids, have you noticed how on the backside of the upper eyelids of  G2  there is a weird little square shaped piece of mesh  that hangs down a little?  Ztran an eyeball back  a little bit, you'll see it.  I mean WTF?

Thanks

Also be careful when you create your own custom morph taregts .Some of the embedded magnets are not set to zero by default.so your morphs might look different from what you expect.

My SydneyG2 model comes with the LacrimalCacasian head morph and NoNipples chest morph set to 1. I upgraded Poser 7 somewhere around the week it came out, way back when.

Quote - Also be careful when you create your own custom morph taregts .Some of the embedded magnets are not set to zero by default.so your morphs might look different from what you expect.

Hmmmmm.. have not noticed a problem in this area  yet  with  G2  female heads and most of the body parts including hips. BUT  I have noticed with G2 females : if you increase the size of the breasts significantly with magnets  and then make a .obj morph target, when you later apply this morph target to a fresh G2 female, there is a crazy indentation in the front of the breasts,  like a porn shower scene with the boobs up against glass....and I always wondered if that is related to the damn embedded nipple mags, or maybe something else.

so then the question...... :If I DELETE  the morph dial   for  " no NIpples"  in  a G2 base figure,   am I deleting the embedded magnets?

I think not.

I probably have to hack those embedded mags out of the CR2, no?

Thanks

If you open the hirachie editor,you can edit those magnets .Make each magnet visible and you can edit its parameters in the parameter tab.Most mags are set to zero ,but some of them in the chest area have different values.Make shure the figure is in default T-position.

If you accidentally included a morph setting that you didn't want in the final character, do this:

Apply your custom morph, which I'll call MorphA (which includes the unwanted MorphB).
Set the MorphB dial to -1, assuming it was originally set to 1 (or -0.5 if it was set to 0.5, and so on).
Spawn a new morph, say MorphC - this will be your final morph.
You can delete MorphA now, if you like.

as a follow up -

Yes thanks Timberwolf - you are dead on.

for some reason,  Sydney has some embedded breast mags that have NOTHING to do with any of the  basic  "surface-accessible" chest morphs that show up in the parameters window.

In the hiearchy I found , and then  was able to  nuetralize,  magnets called  " L breast inner full"  and  " R breast inner full"  ..... don't know why these mags are embedded  but you cannot acces  them  as a regular chest morph for sydney,   maybe they are a "support" magnets for the morph parameters  of  " side to  side" ,  or   "up/down"

These "inner-full" embedded  magnets are what were ruining my large breasts morphs.