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Subject: I'm not having any fun with Poser and Vista


Nosiferret ( ) posted Sun, 07 June 2009 at 5:33 PM · edited Mon, 02 December 2024 at 12:08 AM

I upgraded and bought a new machine with 6 gig ram and a 640 gig hard drive and it came with Vista 64 bit. I tried taking my Poser runtime. I am currently using Poser6. I tried copying my old Runtime to a external drive and transporting it to the new machine, but things went funky, things went missing, like textures and thumbnail images. So I determined I was going to have to this from scratch and download just about all the content from sites back onto the new machine and reload everything. But when I check the folder the Poser program is in, because I want to group things up and not have thousands of folders scattered all over the place, Hair items in the Hair folder etc, I can't find anything I've opened and installed in Poser. But they're showing up in Poser when I go and check it. So if I unload Milly hair for instance, to the Poser directory, and then check the Poser folder it is not there, but in Poser it's there. It's driving me crazy.

I would really like to just use Poser on the new machine and use a external drive to house the clothes and textures and stuff but I don't know how to get Poser to look to that drive for what it needs without it popping up saying it can't find this or that and I have to direct it.

By organizing the Poser runtime cuts back on a lot of things, navigating in the program the length of time it takes top open the main menu and so on. Plus if I'm looking for Hair or V3 clothes or V4 shoes, I would have it all there and I can go directly to it as to spending an hour looking for a pair of shoes. On the old computer that is how I had my folders set up, but on the new machine I can't even find the folders to do that with. I don't know where they're going but they're in the Poser program when I have it opened.  Strange.

And I don't think Poser likes Vista that much, I've been having some weird messages, like Python scrips didn't load properly, or I'll go to render a single figure, with just hair and skin textures to see how fast it is, test stuff. And it is telling me that I don't have enough memory to lower the bucket sizes. Or says it can't load the textures and then the working window goes black. It rendered on the second time but I noticed it made the eyelashes solid black. Alias again and I will see half of the previous rendered image and the figure I'm going to render and that's when it will pop up with that can't find textures nonsense.

Am I looking to have to upgrade to Poser Pro or something? Is Poser6 and Vista going to get along ever?  I've spent the last week [between work] just about trying to get Poser on the new machine to the point that I can start doing something serious with it.


hborre ( ) posted Sun, 07 June 2009 at 6:41 PM

Your Poser and Vista problem in not uncommon judging by the number ot posts addressing this issue in the forum.  I am betting you installed your Poser App in 'Program Files' which is a very big No-No where Vista is concerned.  The OS is very finicky about content changes in that folder and will not allow you to make physical changes.  The recommended solution is to install Poser in it's own folder on your main drive, i.e., C:/Poser.  This will remedy any further headaches.


KrazyHorse ( ) posted Sun, 07 June 2009 at 6:41 PM · edited Sun, 07 June 2009 at 6:43 PM

Poser 6 is not Vista compatible if installed to the standard program files directory.  I had the same problem.  Reinstall Poser to the root,   C:poser 6.  You should be able to copy over your runtime to this directory and have most of it work just fine.  I don't install anything to the default directory in Vista.

Edit:  I need to type faster hborre :)


LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 07 June 2009 at 7:08 PM

I had this problem as well when reinstalling. Needless to say, Vista hates my Poser 7. Or, Poser 7 hates my Vista. Frankly, I'm beginning to hate them both ;o).

I've been having a lot of problems with freezes, crashes, weird things happening inside Poser, etc.

Laurie



ShawnMcCarthy ( ) posted Sun, 07 June 2009 at 8:10 PM

 The biggest problem with Vista is the UAC, and as its new protection scheme to prevent things from being written to the Program Files directory.

There are many things you can try and a quick search of this forum will turn up many additional things you can try.

One set Poser to run in administrative mode
Two you can try turning off the UAC (Open up Control Panel, and type in "UAC" into the search box. You'll see a link for "Turn User Account Control (UAC) on or off")

Just do a quick search on this forum and vista to see the other recommendations.  

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wheatpenny ( ) posted Sun, 07 June 2009 at 9:42 PM
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I run Poser 7 on Vista Home Basic with no problems at all, but I have the account control turned off.




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Nosiferret ( ) posted Sun, 07 June 2009 at 10:21 PM · edited Sun, 07 June 2009 at 10:33 PM

Heya,
Thanks to those adding to this thread. I will try the account control feature and see if that helps. My system is running Vista Home Premium, so things should be in the same spot.

My Poser installed itself in a separate folder when looking at the C drive I have Program Files and then Program Files (x86) and the Poser program is in the x86 one.

Laurie, you might want to check and see if there are any updates for your Poser, I think Poser7 has a service release, I know Poser6 has had 3 updates since it came out. 7 I think might have 1 if you haven't done that already :) 


LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 07 June 2009 at 10:41 PM · edited Sun, 07 June 2009 at 10:42 PM

I've applied all the updates. I guess my computer just doesn't like it ;o).

I'm gonna try the above suggestions tho, and I'll keep you posted.

Laurie



thefixer ( ) posted Mon, 08 June 2009 at 4:23 AM
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Frankly, there is no issues with putting Poser 6 or 7 in the "programme files [x86] of Vista 64.

I've been running both on Vista 64 Ultimate for the past 2 years with no issues.

As someone else said, it's all about permissions and the UAC, I've posted info about this many times on here, I'm getting tired of doing it, do a search and there id a full explanation of what to do with UAC.

Vista 64 plays nicely with Poser 6 and 7 and Vue Infinite 6 and 7.4 plus all the other apps I have like Photoshop CS3, hexagon 2.2 etc. etc.

people just need to learn how to use Vista properly, a lot of the problems are down to people thinking it's like other versions of Windows, it's not, you need to tame it to your own requirements.

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thefixer ( ) posted Mon, 08 June 2009 at 4:35 AM
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Attached Link: http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/vista/index.htm

ok here's the link to some info [again!]

You need to be a bit savvy with this site as there are some inacuracies, but most of it is good advice and info, if you know what you're doing it should be sufficient for you.

FYI:  Any 32 bit programme should be installed in the "programme files [x36]" not the "programme files".
If you have a 64 bit programme like Vue for example that would go into "programme files"

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mouser ( ) posted Mon, 08 June 2009 at 8:45 PM

Hm strange, I have no problem with Poser 6 on Vista64 but with Poser 7 I do.
Yet I'm hearing the opposite here.

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LaurieA ( ) posted Mon, 08 June 2009 at 8:53 PM

Since I've turned off the UAC, Poser 7 does seem to work a little better. Responds a little faster and freezes less. I only have a 32 bit system. Maybe it's my imagination, but I don't think so.

Laurie



wheatpenny ( ) posted Mon, 08 June 2009 at 9:53 PM
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That's what I have, a 32 bit.




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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Mon, 08 June 2009 at 10:13 PM

and now the good news.

Poser 5, 6, 7 and Pro FLY under Windows 7 64bit.

no problems installing them or running them at all :)



MistyLaraCarrara ( ) posted Tue, 09 June 2009 at 1:49 PM · edited Tue, 09 June 2009 at 1:58 PM

maybe this will help somebody:

I'm running P7 standard on Vista home premium 32-bit.  And transferred P7 from my old PC just recently.

I did a fresh install of P7 on the new PC.

It gave me a hard time about opening files, then I took "ownership" of my c: drive.
to take ownership, Right click on C: then on the security tab, click advanced to get to the ownership button.  (They redesigned Windows Explorer. grrr)

From my old PC,
I copied my Runtimes to a flash drive, but ran into trouble. 
It wasn't copying all the files. 

My work around was to use WINZIP to zip the runtimes and I was able to copy the zipped files to my flashdrive without a problem.
(I had 2 runtime folders, the poser default and a Downloads runtime.)

When I tried to paste my runtime into the new PC, Vista gave me all kinds of messages about overwriting files.

I ended up just deleting the whole runtime folder the fresh install created on the new PC.
After that, it was much less painful to paste in the runtime from my old PC.

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LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Tue, 09 June 2009 at 2:15 PM

Something else to remember when moving runtimes is this. Poser 6 tends to save things to it's libraries using "Absolute" file references.

IE: E:Poser StuffRuntimeLibrairiesCharacterWhatever.cr2

When you move a runtime, if it's no longer on the same drive in the same directory structure you previously had it on, you'll need to run "CorrectReference" to correct every poser file in the runtime with non-absolute reference calls like:

:Runtime:Librairies:Character:Whatever.cr2


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 09 June 2009 at 3:11 PM

Quote - and now the good news.

Poser 5, 6, 7 and Pro FLY under Windows 7 64bit.

no problems installing them or running them at all :)

Hallelujah!

I'm not real fond of Vista, but it came with the box :o(. I really miss XP...sigh. The hubby is running the Windows 7 32 bit beta and he says it runs like a champ. I'll keep my fingers crossed. This IS Microsoft, after all ;o)

Laurie



Conniekat8 ( ) posted Tue, 09 June 2009 at 3:52 PM

I had some problems with Vista, but they all went away when I changed it to run in administrator mode all the time. 
Sorry, I forgot the exact setting name.

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 09 June 2009 at 3:59 PM

Quote - > Quote - and now the good news.

Poser 5, 6, 7 and Pro FLY under Windows 7 64bit.

no problems installing them or running them at all :)

Hallelujah!

I'm not real fond of Vista, but it came with the box :o(. I really miss XP...sigh. The hubby is running the Windows 7 32 bit beta and he says it runs like a champ. I'll keep my fingers crossed. This IS Microsoft, after all ;o)

Laurie

the only real issues I'm seeing is, it can suffer from 'Driverdrag' if it has a problem with a driver. but correct that and it speeds right back up again....



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