Hello I will try to keep this a poser specific as I can.... Purchased Vue and it is rendering using all 8 cores of i7 processer at 100% constantly when producing an animation or image. Poser or any other applications or video stutter when I try to use that at same time (1st time I have ever seen this beast slow down!).  However using Poser on its own... maybe 1 core is at 100 %, another at 25 % and 2 more at about 1-2% each (get a total of about 25 % cpu usage). Set up my poser render, lots of nice bumps etc... then rendered it in Vue the results were very little different from poser firefly render almost undistinguishable apart from it had a mountain, water, plants and went 10 times quicker. Tried it without the mountains etc and what took me 48 mins on poser firefly rendered in 1.5 mins.

This render was not a full up close massivly detailed render (but pretty damn good)the highlights and bumbs weredetailed and I was very impressed. Does anyone else render their poser images in Vue?
Is there any compatability issues/things not appearing on the renders? If this is going to improve render times x 10+ I am moving over to Vue!

Are their any resons/circumstances why I shouldn't

I moved from Poser to Vue for rendering18 Months to 2 years ago, never regretted it once.
Fact is Vue can use anything you can throw at it because it is a "true" 64 bit app. unlike Poser which isn't!
Vue lighting is also another reason I went to Vue, it kills Poser dead where lighting is concerned.
I would never go back to rendering in Poser, I only use it now for scene set up, nothing more.

Just my own view, nothing more!

I have been trying to render a scene that takes well over 20 hours on poser without success (girlfriend makes me turn pc off) I am going to stick it on to vue later on to see how long it takes (I will be able to test quality also! This is the best news ... less waiting for more complex renders - winner! Do close up images look good also? The lighting is way better, love the relection of it on poser characters and poser characters reflected in water too... stunningly detailed. Does anyone else use Vue or any other packages to render?

Do you all use different packages and its only me using firely ?! lol (I am gonna be well annoyed if everyone uses Vue already!)

I can't speak for everyone but I do know a hell of a lot of people moved to Vue at the time Vue 6 came out and they are still moving over from what I see in the Vue gallery.

What level of Vue do you use? If I can get by with one of the smaller packages that would help my pocket. I want to import animations to Vue. Do I need Pro or ?

Thanks,
RM

Vue 7 esprite cost me about £130 I think you can get a free one though but has a watermark. I just import poser animation directly into it...apparantly you can repose inside vue (would be great but I havn't worked out how t do it yet)  I can't wait to get home and do a render I will let you know if it is quicker/details etc.

FYI, some of the same improvements are available with Carrara (DAZ).  Poser and DAZ content imports pretty well, including scenes although, after a bit of a learning curve, you will probably just set up in Carrara.  C Pro 7.1 is much less than Vue infinite 7.5 (especially the platinum price, or if you wait for one of the regular DAZ sales) and has great lights and excellent rendering speed and quality.  I would take a look at both.

One note - Carrara is still a 32 bit program, but I run 32 bit XP, so it's not an issue for me.  It is apparently well multi-threaded since I use an intel Quad core and all four cores max out when rendering (fast).

Klebnor

Reposing inside Vue is a waste of time, it can be done yes but it really isn't worth the hassle.
I have both Poser and Vue 7.4 open at the same time, if you repose inside Poser and resave it, Vue automatically sees the change and asks if you want to re-import it.
It also re-imports it to the same place in your scene, useful if you've moved it's position from the initial import.
This is  a much easier, quicker and better way of reposing if you need to.

Have you rendered in Vue using Posers dynamic hair and cloth sims?

Do you have to spend time tweaking materials?

Thanks!!!

I peeked over at e-onsoftware, looks like they are on 7.5 and both options expensive.  maybe I can find a V6 over on amazon.com.

Cheers,Lara

Does Vue have any uvmapping tools?

Cheers.

Dynamic hair doesn't work too well, but dynamic cloth does very well, check out my gallery, plenty of images using dynamic cloth.
Not too up on Vue's modelling capabilities, you can do basic modelling using primitives and meta blobs and some other stuff, not sure about UV mapping, I don't think so, maybe ask that one in the Vue forum!

When it comes to rendering Poser dynamic hair, Carrara is significantly better than Vue and Poser both.
When it comes to large scenes with multiple characters and an expansive natural environment, my money's on Vue.
I didn't like the user interface of Carrara 5 Pro - placement of objects could only be done by dragging on the gizmos, preventing precise placement. Couldn't find Poser/Vue like parameter dials for fine control, couldn't find the nifty "drop to surface below" featuer that's been in Vue for like forever, and landscaping was arduous.
Vue 6 Infinite (which I use) has negligible modeling tools. Booleans, primitives and metablobs, that's about it. Very little control over UV mapping.
Carrara is reputed to have some decent modeling tools. I don't need Carrara's modeling - I have 3D Studio Max for that. And for UV mapping I use a combination of 3DS Max and UVMapper Pro.

Carrara 5 Pro was three years and two versions ago.  I'm just sayin.

I render mostly in Vue but occasionally in VRay via Blender.
Vue doesn't have any UV mapping tools as such - it's not a modelling app, for UV mapping I either use Hexagon or Blender.  Vue handles Poser dynamic cloth just fine but not dynamic hair.
[edit thanks to slow typing!]
and I still find the Cararra interface to be weird but then I rather like ZBrush so go figure

Quote - Carrara 5 Pro was three years and two versions ago.  I'm just sayin.

At that time I was using Vue 5 Infinite (2 versions ago too), and the comparison stands. I'm just sayin.

Hello here are my results the render which took over 20 hours to do a 2000 x 2000 and something HDRI and masses of reflections on poser firefly render.

1st attempt 2000 x 1500( I think ) = 23 seconds!

Problem there were no reflections! however the poser figure & Scenery looked excellent quality with noticeably much better shadows.

then.... I discovered how to turn on reflections!

2nd attempt 2000 x 1500 = 56 seconds Looked stunning just like the poser render I have not yet seen complete! (My missus complained at this point that I had not found this renderer in the first place rather than waste my time with firefly leaving computer on all day)

3rd Attempt 6500x5000 (I think) 300 ppi Added some cool lighting changed some textures to make them more realistic, upped  the reflections to insane levels added some seriously cool bump mapping decided to put some water in the scene (sloshing around my poser characters ankles and various objects on floor).

Then I rendered ..... and Vue Crashed!

Tryed again and turned down a few of the insane settings (I had completly maxed it out!)

56 minutes later Vue churned out a render still at 6500 x 5000 with stunning bump maps, reflectivity that I never thought possible (I have never achieved this detail from poser) The lighting looked 100 times better than poser Pro. ( I am not sure where HDRI option was in vue, but managed to find displacement maps, it looked infanitly better)

By this point my jaw was hanging open, realising how much more I could achieve with my time!

Also about a month ago I printed out an A3 poser pic I thought looked stunning I decided to do it on vue same dimensions but upped what I could reflections etc.

It was 3500 x 4900 ish ?

Upped the PPI to 600.

Bearing in mind this render took me 15 hours and I was pleased with it.

................. 1 minute and 58 seconds later.....

Stunning is all I can say it bettered the poser render in every way possible and the firefly render was almost laughable in comparison.

I have not tried hair as yet, but everything else I seemed to have tried looks amazing... I hope this helps.

I am now a Vue renderer !

Oh and I liked that idea of reposing in poser and it converting it to vue..  the vue interface is a bit more clunky than the one in poser (maybe its just me trying to learn it though.

Once you get used to Vue's interface it's one of the better ones IMO.

You still have Vue's version of the material room [function editor] to see yet by the sound of it.
If you're excited now, just wait till you start messing in there and seeing what that can do! It does have a steep learning curve though.

Initial thoughts .... I have managed to pick it up which is good and have managed to pull off a render or five ! tryed 3DS and did not have a clue what I was doing... Poser was easy to get started. Looking forward to learning more in vue and I definaly need to learn more in poser.

aww bummer.  I've put too much time and energy into dynamic hair to give it up now.