My runtime is a mess with V4, V4.1, V4.2 A4 and G4 and then the male counterparts... I want to par down to a single definitive V4 and single definitive M4 so I intend to re-install everything again sequentially... will this lead to a single .cr2 for V4 and a single .cr2 for M4? I am confused by the A4/H4 situation... will my final comprehensive V4 be G4? Does G4 contain V4.2 and A4?

Also, I do not have to inject all morphs before applying a V4 character pose but I must before applying a V4.2 or A4 or G4? How do people work with all this... what are the "definitive" Millennium 4 figures and do people just save a "loaded copy" in the library to which to apply character poses? Do people have a method for emptying out the unused morph data? There is the morphs, morph++, etc. how do people control their Millennium 4 figures? I am in a muddle!

I would appreciate your help in straightening it out!! Thanks.

The requirements for installing A4 and G4 is that you have the V4.2 Morph++ installed, not necessarily loaded in your .cr2.  Those characters feed off the Morph++ deltas for successful morphing.  I, myself, have fully loaded characters saved in my library but that is for convenience.  There is a script available for stripping out zero morph dials but, at the moment, I do not recollect the author's name and I am not on my home computer to check.  Perhaps someone could submit the link.

I keep all the characters in the DAZ people folder and then I make individual folders for each character and copy character specific to the folder.

Then I name the folder with the generation prefix.
My charcter lib looks like:

2-TY
4-Victoria  , has all my V4 versions, and I save a .cr2 file with the Ikeys off and my fave textures.
4-Aiko
4-Girl
4-Mikey
4-Hiro
3-Aiko
3-Michael  (there is an Sr1 and an Sr2 version. Some morph characters require the SR1 version)
etc.
5-Don Judy Will Penny  (hey, that's the Lost in Space family)
6-James
6-Jessi  (hey, Jesse James)

You can use the power loader to load all morphs, or you can load the individual morphs you need.

The individual morph can be a pain, when you're injecting a character.

It gives you those can't find delta messages.  It asks 'do you want to continue to look for missing files', you can click "no", but it doesn't take 'no' for an answer and it keeps on looking.

momodot, do yourself a favor... once you get it all reinstalled and the way you want it, throw away those DAZ installers and make a backup of your runtime(s) after its all installed, on another drive, the same drive, or a CD or DVD.

Contrary to the idiocy that is the Millenium 4 series installers, you do not have to have those figures anywhere near your Poser.exe, or even on the same physical disk for that matter.

As for myself, with the V4 and M4 people, I bought them and their associated Triple-Super-Duper-Multi-PlusPlusPlus Morph packs, applied them, backed up the runtime folders and then ditched anything that was a .exe from DAZ, never to grace my drives again.
Obviously the morphs themselves, as well as the injections, are all there as well as the original figures and the original runtime structure.  I just then saved my own versions of the figures with all morphs applied, into a new runtime, and those are what I use and accept as default. I don't have to worry about injecting or un-injecting anything, because what I have in my Mil4 runtime is, for all intents and purposes, the only versions of the Mil 4 People that exist, and are complete. Makes it all simpler that way.

I don't think there is any need to install V4 and V4.1, is there?
I have those two figures, but I only ever use V4.2 nowadays, and all the earlier products seem to work fine with her.
Anybody know any different?

V 4.2 seems to be totally backwards-compatible, at least as far as I've noticed. But I'm sure there's something out  there though that requires V 4.1. Who knows. I don't think I've used any of the previous versions since 4.2 came out, and haven't seen any problems myself.

But do I use G4 in place of V4 as it is the latest figure or will I need V4.2, A4 anG4 as separate figures... I am wondering if there is one "all inclusive" .cr2 after running that darned updater over and over.

To install G4 or A4 you must have V4 already installed.
Once you have installed A4 or G4, there are separate figures (cr2 files) for them.

Does this answer your question?

No, I think momodot's question is whether G4 "contains" V4 and A4, so that the other Cr2s are unnecessary.

Quote - No, I think momodot's question is whether G4 "contains" V4 and A4, so that the other Cr2s are unnecessary.

I think you're right about that.

But I very much doubt there's one all-inclusive cr2, which is why I proposed my out of sight, out of mind policy. Install all the stuff, apply all the morphs, save out new figures and let the originals hide away in some forgotten runtime for all eternity.

Quote - The requirements for installing A4 and G4 is that you have the V4.2 Morph++ installed, not necessarily loaded in your .cr2.  Those characters feed off the Morph++ deltas for successful morphing.

These are not true

Specifically, you don't need morphs++ to use A4/G4. They have their own deltas

the actual benefit of EXP is that any one of the cr2s can act as the primary as they all load with all the blank channels that have been installed, so any one of them can be loaded with any morph of the others (the females and males are of course separate but even the opposite sexes can load the other's morphs with a bit of file editing). As far as what figures you need in your figures library, all you actually need are V4.2 and M4, those figures will load all the morphs for the others. the only thing that A4, G4, H4, and F4 give you is figures that automatically load their own morphs and have their primary morph set to 100%,

This is good. I think I'm learning something.

So loading the A4 figure is the equivalent of loading V4.2, injecting the A4 Base morphs, and dialing up the primary A4 morph to 100%.

By Jove, I think she's got it. Have I?

Yeth. :)